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Captain America: The Next Soldier (Falcon and Winter Soldier Feature & Spoilers) (WIP)

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I’m beginning to map out an outline for a feature version of Falcon and the Winter Soldier, making it the fourth Captain America movie

I would start by removing as much of the drawn out stuff from episodes one and two, the therapy sessions for Bucky in particular don’t contribute anything from what I’ve seen so far, and his arrest simply for not checking in with his shrink was silly. Gone too, will be Sam’s family life and troubles with the bank.

The portions of episode one I would use to begin the feature are as follows:

Sam relinquishing the shield in Washington, has a talk with Rhodes
-Cut to his friend’s altercation with the Flag Smashers in Switzerland
-He contacts Sam while he’s watching the news
-John Walker is announced as the new Captain America
-This segues straight into the Marvel Studios logo and from there the majority of episode two.

This will be continued next week as soon as I see Friday’s episode. I’ve already put some of these ideas into practice with a 44 minute “alternative” episode one, PM me if curious.

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I feel the therapy and the home life are going to be crucial for the end of the series. I understand the ideas, but what are your ideas for the emotional core of your edit? It’s a cool idea though,

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If and when they prove crucial, I’ll consider placing them back in, possibly as ‘breather’ scenes between the action and other such goings on.

I feel the therapy can be cut back, but you can still retain Bucky’s friendship with the father of the man he killed for instance.

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Sounds interesting, will like to see your edit when finished please.

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Alrighty, watched episode three

MAJOR SPOILERS FOLLOW

Alas, not much on John Walker at all in this other than a couple of minutes at the start and at the end, but plenty of action with Zemo and Sharon, keeping the Cap connections coming thick and fast. Will have to find a way of cutting it down to at least half an hour, that can be done by removing some of the Flag Smasher moments in this episode.

I might be able to squeeze in a Hugh Jackman cameo considering they base a lot of the action this week in Madripoor.

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Ideas for an episode three re-cut of Falcon and Winter Soldier (I’ve seen it twice more to be sure), to reduce the run time. Some of these ideas can also be used for the “Next Soldier” feature edit version:

Again, big spoilers below:

-Maybe remove the banter about Marvin Gaye

-Insert sequence from the beginning of Logan (where he’s massacring the hoods and protecting the car) while we’re exploring the streets of Madripoor

-Reduce the more sympathetic bits with the Flag Smasher Kharlie, retaining only the final scenes for her and her partner as they blow up the building

-Alternatively, keep all the sympathetic stuff in, and end the episode after she blows the building and save Bucky’s cliffhanger for possibly the pre-titles of episode four.

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Cameron Samurai said:

-Insert sequence from the beginning of Logan (where he’s massacring the hoods and protecting the car) while we’re exploring the streets of Madripoor

If you don’t mind me making a suggestion, I’d say maybe instead of doing this, you could just add in a (color corrected) shot from this X-Men Origins: Wolverine post credits scene into the bar scene in the episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rccAxLumUw

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Nice idea there, I had considered other small scenes (like the cage fight from X-Men), but felt the ‘Logan’ scene was the closest in ‘atmosphere’, that would work well for the bar scene I agree, and it’s short and contemplative enough. Maybe the action sequence would be too much and promise something will pay off later when it doesn’t?

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BrotherOfSasquatch said:

Cameron Samurai said:

Maybe the action sequence would be too much and promise something will pay off later when it doesn’t?

That’s exactly what my line of thinking was. lol.

Kind of psychic, lol.

I’ll see what I can do, I know people who can colour grade, this should be a synch for them. I’ll likely add it to the feature version.

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Having seen episode four, there’s nothing too drastic I’d cut from it this time, the flashback at the start might be worth slotting into an edit of Civil War if you’re thinking of minor alterations to that though.

Marvel also released the full extended Zemo dance

Wouldn’t it be awesome if you inserted the Zemo dance sequence into a cut of Civil War as a way of him celebrating how much he’d divided the Avengers?

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Falcon and Winter Soldier Episode Five…

God this one was boring…but what’s wilder, is if you wanted to, IF you wanted to, you really could just end your feature edit right here.

Oh sure you could argue you need episode six for a climatic battle…but that’s only to see Sam in his Cap suit to combat Karlie and the Flag Smashers, and possibly round two between Sam and the disgraced Walker, but I don’t think you honestly need that. Radicalised people are always going to exist, their threats are ongoing, and Walker doesn’t have the title, rank, or shield, all he carries with him is a grudge at this point. And do we care about Sharon Carter power broking? ('cause that’s obviously who she is)

Besides that, it’s all over bar the shouting. We got a battle between Walker, Sam and Bucky. Zemo was apprehended (far too easily), Sam got the shield. All that’s left is for him to ‘prove’ himself…so, again, depending on your preferences, you could

  1. Trim down Episode Five and add it to Episode Six runtime (were you making an episodic cut)

  2. If making a feature cut, end it like Amazing Spider-Man 2, with everyone in danger and a hero about to rise. Mid-credits can even be Falcon showing up in the Cap suit.

Or, OR…

  1. Maybe…don’t show Karlie escaping after she kills Walker’s partner in episode four? Have her just remain there while Walker chases after the one guy escaping because he’s so blinded by rage.
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Having had a bit of a think, I definitely see potential for two versions

Take 1 could be “No Regrets”, which would still include next week’s episode six, while trimming down episode five considerably, maybe lopping off 30 or so minutes

Take 2 could be the more unique one…an edit where the Flag Smashers are largely stopped due to Karlie realising she’s gone too far.

After John kills the Flag Smasher, we follow him through the battle with Sam and Bucky, then his court martial and discharge, but edit out his meeting with the Countessa. Sam visits the former super soldier and there’s the big history lesson/BLM lecture, then the talk with Bucky at Sam’s home, then Sam talking with his sister, then we end the film on him training to be “the next soldier”. End the film here. Post-credits can be Walker forging his own shield (just like the actual mid-credits of episode five) and a bonus post-credit scene of Zemo dancing in the club to George Michael’s “I’m Your Man”…because in THIS version, Zemo isn’t taken into Wakandan custody and escapes

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Cameron Samurai said:

Having had a bit of a think, I definitely see potential for two versions

Take 1 could be “No Regrets”, which would still include next week’s episode six, while trimming down episode five considerably, maybe lopping off 30 or so minutes

Take 2 could be the more unique one…an edit where the Flag Smashers are largely stopped due to Karlie realising she’s gone too far.

After John kills the Flag Smasher, we follow him through the battle with Sam and Bucky, then his court martial and discharge, but edit out his meeting with the Countessa. Sam visits the former super soldier and there’s the big history lesson/BLM lecture, then the talk with Bucky at Sam’s home, then Sam talking with his sister, then we end the film on him training to be “the next soldier”. End the film here. Post-credits can be Walker forging his own shield (just like the actual mid-credits of episode five) and a bonus post-credit scene of Zemo dancing in the club to George Michael’s “I’m Your Man”…because in THIS version, Zemo isn’t taken into Wakandan custody and escapes

I totally see your point, and obviously this is your edit, but I think that for me the emotional core of this show isn’t resolved. Character arcs are left unfinished except for Sam. We REALLY need to see Bucky apologize for Yori’s sons death. I also like thinking of this in a three act structure. Act 1 is the first two episodes which are easy to rearrange in many different ways. The first half of act 2 could be 3 and 4 if they could be cut down into 45 mins total. John going insane could be the midpoint. Second half of act 2 could be 5 cut down because it has that natural hero downer moment, then the hero decides to fight. Then 6 is the last act. I think this might have been their entire plan for a movie, and then decided they’d do a show instead. That’s just speculation though. I’m really excited to see your edit when it’s done!

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Oh don’t worry, I fully intend to create a cut that resolves all the plot lines for everyone, and will be waiting for episode six, I just thought it’d be a fun experiment to try and end it with just what’s presently available since it gives you so many avenues for that, at least for Sam.

As for Bucky, I’ve found it less time consuming not to focus too much on Yori. I still have him being referenced as a name on the list, but I haven’t used any of his and Bucky’s scenes so far. When I get the sixth episode, and if he’s included, I might include the stuff I missed out on episode one to maybe extend their scenes together if they’re short. Though, as you say, I’m being very speculative.

I think I can squeeze just about all of episode six into the run time, so it’ll come out at close to a three-hour cut.