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The Empire is headed to Vegas, baby. Darth Vader, accompanied by a legion of his finest imperial troops, will address emissaries from "a galaxy far, far away" for a most impressive announcement at the Consumer Electronics Show.

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Should be interesting to see what the "most impresisve" annoucement is, but I doubt it's the OOT uncut and fully restored to BR glory.

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Part of me thinks that is what this could maybe be, but that is because I am a stupid fool. But what could it be about the BD that we didn't already know? We know there will be new docs and deleted scenes. Are they going to announce it has new changes to the films? I don't think they are modifying them in any significant way, at least picture wise. This is intriguing whatever it is. They might just be announcing the date and MSRP, who knows.

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From TFN:

UPDATE: Tracy over at Club Jade has another theory about Thursday's announcement, saying that the Panasonic connection may signal to the availability of The Old Republic on the company's portable gaming system.

The link, though, with the official advertisment makes it in connection with the BD, so I don't really buy into the game theory.

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Can someone who can simply and eloquently explain film resolution respond to this ignorant dude at the site of the original link

freeset 3 hours ago in reply to Michealfelps:

they relese it in bluray now??? how did they make it full hd when the movie was shot on film cameras 30 years ago with no digital image processing and all the stuff???? it is a bullshit big like the death star before its explosion into tiny pieces of glittery magic. no movie before 2000 can be properly converted into full hd, i said properly, if the source is not high definition enough then good luck, you cant phisically convert it. the dvd is the MAX they can get out of starwars and they use noise cancelation algorithms to create a fine image, now they will CREATE MORE PIXELS?????? it smell like a marketing move.

BTW, I think the significance of describing the announcement as "most impressive" is nothing other than using a quote from the films in order to be "clever".

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freeset 3 hours ago in reply to Michealfelps:

they relese it in bluray now??? how did they make it full hd when the movie was shot on film cameras 30 years ago with no digital image processing and all the stuff???? it is a bullshit big like the death star before its explosion into tiny pieces of glittery magic. no movie before 2000 can be properly converted into full hd, i said properly, if the source is not high definition enough then good luck, you cant phisically convert it. the dvd is the MAX they can get out of starwars and they use noise cancelation algorithms to create a fine image, now they will CREATE MORE PIXELS?????? it smell like a marketing move.
That post hurts my body. For real.

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As much as reading that gave me a headache I am actually kind of curious where he got that understanding from. Is there some young earth creationism school of thought for home video now or something?

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freeset 3 hours ago in reply to Michealfelps:

they relese it in bluray now??? how did they make it full hd when the movie was shot on film cameras 30 years ago with no digital image processing and all the stuff???? it is a bullshit big like the death star before its explosion into tiny pieces of glittery magic. no movie before 2000 can be properly converted into full hd, i said properly, if the source is not high definition enough then good luck, you cant phisically convert it. the dvd is the MAX they can get out of starwars and they use noise cancelation algorithms to create a fine image, now they will CREATE MORE PIXELS?????? it smell like a marketing move.

 

 What?

Really, film enthusiasts are starting to sound like 9/11 Truthers, or Da Vinci Code believers.

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zombie wrote:

As much as reading that gave me a headache I am actually kind of curious where he got that understanding from. Is there some young earth creationism school of thought for home video now or something?

*waves hand*

Unintended consequence of the 2006 dvds.

*waxes off*

You didn't know... but the 1997 Special Edition was actually a higher resolution shot for shot remake with noise enhancing algorithmic equazional equalization THX certified digital-photo-chemical audio enhancements.  No just on the pixel level but the quantum micro-pixel level.  They actually manipulated the quarks in 'The Star Wars' in the 3 Mile Inlet Collider.  I heard, this is all speculative, but they projected the quarks from the 70mm through the 35mm digital enhancements to create this new intra-poso-neg 3Mega 4High 5Def, which is supposedly a whoapping (yes whoapping) 42bX97.3b pixel in quad dimensions.  The MMO will be out last tuesday.

but you might know the other... smaller story, Ontrack Betting in the Dagobagian Dryland.  Sure you've been following along.

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zombie84 said:


As much as reading that gave me a headache I am actually kind of curious where he got that understanding from. Is there some young earth creationism school of thought for home video now or something?
It's more like Lucas' "hey, this DVD is as good as the OOT gets" was taken to the illogical extreme that no film is able to be higher than DVD quality.

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freeset 3 hours ago in reply to Michealfelps:

they relese it in bluray now??? how did they make it full hd when the movie was shot on film cameras 30 years ago with no digital image processing and all the stuff???? it is a bullshit big like the death star before its explosion into tiny pieces of glittery magic. no movie before 2000 can be properly converted into full hd, i said properly, if the source is not high definition enough then good luck, you cant phisically convert it. the dvd is the MAX they can get out of starwars and they use noise cancelation algorithms to create a fine image, now they will CREATE MORE PIXELS?????? it smell like a marketing move.

Oh dear. So that would be why the ignorant masses don't like film grain and DNR is overused on films released pre-2002 when George Lucas invented HD camera's for use on AOTC.

No words exist to explain just how wrong this ignorant "film buff" is!

As for the announcement, I'd be very surprised if it isn't anything to do with the Blu-ray or 3D releases.

Let's just hope it's not to reveal that Star Wars will be a Panasonic exclusive for the next 2 years!

Your brain just makes s**t up!

A fate worse than death? Having your head digitally replaced with that of Hayden Christensen!

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zombie84 said:

As much as reading that gave me a headache I am actually kind of curious where he got that understanding from. Is there some young earth creationism school of thought for home video now or something?

The vast - and I mean VAST - majority of consumers don't understand how something shot on film can look as good as - or better than - HD video.  If it wasn't made digitally, it's not as good, period.

I've encountered this many, many, many times, both with members of my family (*cough*my parents*cough*) and complete strangers in many different cities (at a Sony Style store in Vegas, a Best Buy in Chicago, the list goes on).  To the average consumer, film = old, blurry, grainy, inferior, and digital = crisp, clear, lifelike, and superior.

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zombie wrote:

As much as reading that gave me a headache I am actually kind of curious where he got that understanding from. Is there some young earth creationism school of thought for home video now or something?

*waves hand*

Unintended consequence of the 2006 dvds.

*waxes off*

You didn't know... but the 1997 Special Edition was actually a higher resolution shot for shot remake with noise enhancing algorithmic equazional equalization THX certified digital-photo-chemical audio enhancements.  No just on the pixel level but the quantum micro-pixel level.  They actually manipulated the quarks in 'The Star Wars' in the 3 Mile Inlet Collider.  I heard, this is all speculative, but they projected the quarks from the 70mm through the 35mm digital enhancements to create this new intra-poso-neg 3Mega 4High 5Def, which is supposedly a whoapping (yes whoapping) 42bX97.3b pixel in quad dimensions.  The MMO will be out last tuesday.

but you might know the other... smaller story, Ontrack Betting in the Dagobagian Dryland.  Sure you've been following along.

I've seen this process in action. It's quite a thing to see.

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ChainsawAsh said:

The vast - and I mean VAST - majority of consumers don't understand how something shot on film can look as good as - or better than - HD video.  If it wasn't made digitally, it's not as good, period.

I've encountered this many, many, many times, both with members of my family (*cough*my parents*cough*) and complete strangers in many different cities (at a Sony Style store in Vegas, a Best Buy in Chicago, the list goes on).  To the average consumer, film = old, blurry, grainy, inferior, and digital = crisp, clear, lifelike, and superior.

 Really?

I'm just surprised, personally I can't stand grain-less movies. Especially the Prequels. Film grain gives and sense of depth and texture, character if you wish, to movies. Digital cameras? Pristine, sure - flat and lifeless a lot more than "lifelike" though.

I even play games with film grain if they support it (Mass Effect / Mass Effect 2 would be a good example).

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^Why are you surprised?  The vast majority of consumers don't post on Star Wars forums either.

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auximenies said:

BTW, I think the significance of describing the announcement as "most impressive" is nothing other than using a quote from the films in order to be "clever".

This is exactly how I read that marketing statement too, and reckon it's going to mainly be a fanfare to announce the official release date for the blu-rays.  With perhaps some detail on some of the extras being mentioned too.

I doubt there'll be any mention of any 3D blu-ray versions at this point, until the cinema releases are done with first...and at that point, I wouldn't be surprised if some manufacturer or other was indeed then given a 'limited monopoly' over them for a while (just as Panasonic has with 'Avatar' for the time being), thus delaying it from being available to everyone else who buys the 'wrong' 3D TV from other manufacturers... 

Just for the record, I'm highly impressed with Panasonic's 3D TV range, even if I don't like their exclusive control over 'Avatar's 3D blu-ray for anyone else.

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zombie84 said:

As much as reading that gave me a headache I am actually kind of curious where he got that understanding from. Is there some young earth creationism school of thought for home video now or something?

The notion of total 'digital removal' of original grain becoming a 'preferred' look by some is bad enough...but I'm gonna call it a day if someone ever seriously demands somewhere that every future blu-ray should have the current over-used trend for 'tinted' blue/'teal'/'orangy' hues too!  ;)

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From FSR:

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/star-wars-blu-ray-details-arent-far-far-away.php#disqus_thread

I agree that the "impressive announcement" is an attempt at cleverness (epic fail BTW).

We know the OOT will not be any part of the announcement (FRAK I wish that was wrong!), so I agree that it is probably a blurb about the bonus features, and perhaps a SRP and perhaps some cover art.

I still find it unsettling that these films are always so technologically behind everyone else when they are released.  It wasn't until DVD's days were numbered (as the highest quality medium) that they were finally released on the format.  For such groundbreaking work that set the standard, the films are still treated like shit.  Simply unforgiveable.

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Hopefully they're at least re-redoing the crappy CGI they shoehorned into the OT.

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Well, it might be about the BR then, huh? ;-)

I'm more scared of this announcement than excited. It's probably something like "we found out that doing the 3D was super easy, so the set will be twice as much as you expect and you have to buy a Panasonic 3D TV to get then until 2015! Oh, and it comes with the original versions. So you can get your wish for around $4000!"

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My uncle's 3D television came with a 3D Blu-Ray of Avatar bundled with it (apparently not for sale separate from the television).

It would seem a bit odd to put out even a limited release of 3D Blu-Ray sets before a theatrical 3D run but these are crazy times.

Maybe it's a HD 3D sampler disc to promote the television sets and get everyone primed for the theatrical run.

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Bingowings said:

 

It would seem a bit odd to put out even a limited release of 3D Blu-Ray sets before a theatrical 3D run but these are crazy times.

There was no theatrical 3D run of Avatar there?  It was in the theaters day 1 in the states.

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Bingowings said:

Maybe it's a HD 3D sampler disc to promote the television sets and get everyone primed for the theatrical run.

Now that's an interesting speculation Bingowings, and one I'd certainly not thought of.  And I'm certainly curious about the 'Panasonic' stand link...

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TV's Frink said:

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It would seem a bit odd to put out even a limited release of 3D Blu-Ray sets before a theatrical 3D run but these are crazy times.

There was no theatrical 3D run of Avatar there?  It was in the theaters day 1 in the states.

I meant it would be odd if Star Wars was released as promo disc for 3D televisions before being released in 3D theatrically.

But I wouldn't rule out a sampler disc bundled with televisions to get people interested in forking out extra for a format that may not go anywhere.

Heck! It could just be The Clone Wars on 3D TV tied into a Panasonic promo.

It wouldn't be the first time OT cosplay had been used to promote PT or even pre-PT era spin offs (officially or unofficially) :

Here in the UK we got Avatar in 4D theatrically because our monarch is Queen of the Lizard People running the New World Order :-)

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I can exclusively reveal that last line was utter bobbins.