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the unsurpassed video and audio quality that the format offer."

- Open letter to George Lucas to Variety

Well? The fact is that I found this frame inside a .vob file on the second disc (the one with extra features) of "Minority Report" PAL DVD - bought about ten years ago...

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...dutch subtitles was not even present in the whole disc...

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Sadly only a few complained and the 2004 set was a huge success, and pretty much the same thing happened with the blu rays.

Just owning the films regardless of what was changed is what average joe's cared about.

The 2006 set with the non anamorphic  bonus dvd was a non event really and did not sell as well as the 2004 set.  Or the Blu rays. 

The claims are that it sold poorly because the original was not restored and was from a 1993 master, Lucasfilm seems to think it sold poorly because no one is interested in the originals.

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Or someone with nothing but contempt for the fanbase for nearly 20 years. I declare DVD a total failure because we never really got the OT on the format, which IMO is the whole reason the format existed. I mean we have received nothing but abuse since 1997, and we do not deserve this.

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But from a money standpoint its brilliant marketing keep changing the films so people continue to watch the product.

If he let them alone they would be stuck in the time they were made, perhaps Lucas worried the would and cease to be relevant. 

Would people have paid tons of cash in 1997 to see non restored not cgi versions of the films.  Would just as many people have bought the dvd's and blu rays if they were simply the theatrical films untouched?

I wish the answer would be yes but i don't know.  Its possible the majority prefer the newer cuts with all the bells and whistles and its borne out really by how much the blu rays have sold.

I've been told by those in the department stores selling the blu rays no one wants the terrible old versions with the bad effects and models on wires.

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skyjedi2005 said:

Would people have paid tons of cash in 1997 to see non restored not cgi versions of the films.  Would just as many people have bought the dvd's and blu rays if they were simply the theatrical films untouched?

Why not? People kept on buying and re-buying each home video re-release prior to 1997.

They even convinced people to come back and buy 'em again "one last time".

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skyjedi2005 said:

Would people have paid tons of cash in 1997 to see non restored not cgi versions of the films.
I didn't want to see Star Wars SE in the theater specifically because they altered it. Thus I didn't. I know that they lost out on at least 4 tickets, because I wasn't old enough to go alone and chances are two other family members of mine would've gone with me.

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skyjedi2005 said:

But from a money standpoint its brilliant marketing keep changing the films so people continue to watch the product.

Hard to say if that's why people buy them again & again--"to see the fresh new stuff in each release".

It could just as easily have been:

- Bought the 1997 set because it's close enough to the movies I want and it's on DVD so it looks way better.

- Bought the 2006 set because it includes the films I actually want in DVD quality (dang! they fooled me!)

- Bought the 2011 set because it's close enough to the movies I want and it's on Blu-ray so it looks way better.

Probably a mix of reasons, but for all those who love the changes and eat them up with every release, I can't believe there aren't a lot more who simply grudgingly tolerate the changes.

Either way, I'd agree it's been a successful marketing strategy, except in 2006 when it was a clear bait-and-switch... which I suppose could also be considered a "successful" con job.

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skyjedi2005 said:

But from a money standpoint its brilliant marketing keep changing the films so people continue to watch the product.

If he let them alone they would be stuck in the time they were made, perhaps Lucas worried the would and cease to be relevant. 

Would people have paid tons of cash in 1997 to see non restored not cgi versions of the films.  Would just as many people have bought the dvd's and blu rays if they were simply the theatrical films untouched?

I wish the answer would be yes but i don't know.  Its possible the majority prefer the newer cuts with all the bells and whistles and its borne out really by how much the blu rays have sold.

I've been told by those in the department stores selling the blu rays no one wants the terrible old versions with the bad effects and models on wires.

 What marketing data gave them that information? Some "source" at Lucasfilm? Sounds like a steaming load to me! ;)

Lucasfilm and Fox haven't exactly been hyping the constant changes made after 1997. The closing credits have never been updated either. You'd think the folks who worked on the newer shots would want to be acknowledged, except maybe the fellow who gave Wicket demon baby eyes. ;)

AFAIK, the replacement of Creepy Puppet Yoda was not used as a selling point for the Blu Rays.

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skyjedi2005 said:
Would people have paid tons of cash in 1997 to see non restored not cgi versions of the films. 


I actually don't remember the new CG FX in 1997 being the main selling point for the theatrical re-releases.

I remember the ads with the little TV set and the "for over a decade, THIS is the only way you could see Star Wars..." or whatever narration, basically saying that Star Wars is meant to be seen BIG, and honestly, I think that's why 99% of the people went to see the re-releases.

It was a lot of people my age either just wanting to see them on the big screen one more time and/or taking their kids to see them on the big screen for the first time ever.

As far as the blu-rays go, I think a lot of people got a big surprise with some of the new alterations when they sat down to watch them (those who don't frequent SW-related forums, that is). And for me, the alterations were the reason that I did NOT buy them (the FIRST time ever that I didn't buy a new SW video release/format upgrade).

I believe the reason most fans buy SW over and over again is for the improvements in the formats over the years (VHS>>LD>>LBX VHS>>LBX LD>>DVD, etc.) not for changes to the movies themselves.