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C3PX said:

Well, I guess Star Wars doesn't. Being as we have droids used for war in the PT and for assassinations in the OT.

I can think of many other works that have droids killing people as well. So yeah, I guess there are plenty that don't use the three laws.

Was there ever an indication Lucas actually borrowed these laws? We know it is against Threepio's programing to hurt people, but that seems like just a natural safety feature a responsible manufacturer would put on a droid intended for household use. I personally wouldn't consider adhering to the three laws.

Terminator seems like a good example here too.  And Battlestar Galactica.  And the Matrix.  Blade Runner.  Cyborg 4: The Reckoning.  Soldier.  Austin Powers.

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doubleofive said:

C3PX said:

From what I read while trying to look into this, Kenner was in charge of naming many of the background characters that got figures, so if that is the case, and the names came from them and not anywhere else, then I concede that the original names they gave them were initially correct and the change may have been made retroactively.

That would change everything!  If the script and novelization call the humanoid "Tuckuss" and the toys call him "4-LOM" and the droid "Zuckuss" and Kenner came up with the name "Zuckuss" than TUCKUSS is the canon name and Kenner messed it up by calling him "4-LOM"!

The script and novelization call "Tuckuss"/Zuckuss a human type and no way is that bug-faced alien a human type by any stretch of the imagination, so it's a good bet the that alien was NOT in mind when those things were written. Obviously the name started with a human type and both droids and bug-faced aliens are pretty different from humans. So I don't think it can be concluded that the script called THAT character "Tuckuss". The script called A character that, and the novel followed on by calling a character "Zuckuss". I suspect the fact that it's in the novel means the Zuckuss name wasn't invented by Kenner. But the novel and script's version doesn't favor either the bug-alien option or the droid option, because "human-type" is way different from either.

 

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Oh, give it up, VINH.  Let's argue about something important.

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xhonzi said:

C3PX said:

Well, I guess Star Wars doesn't. Being as we have droids used for war in the PT and for assassinations in the OT.

I can think of many other works that have droids killing people as well. So yeah, I guess there are plenty that don't use the three laws.

Was there ever an indication Lucas actually borrowed these laws? We know it is against Threepio's programing to hurt people, but that seems like just a natural safety feature a responsible manufacturer would put on a droid intended for household use. I personally wouldn't consider adhering to the three laws.

Terminator seems like a good example here too.  And Battlestar Galactica.  And the Matrix.  Blade Runner.  Cyborg 4: The Reckoning.  Soldier.  Austin Powers.

 

Westworld, Transformers, Alien (Ash was a G** D*** Robot, if I recall) <spoilers!>

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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Wha...?? YOU JERK!! You've just ruined the entire movie for me!!

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Sorry.  :(

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

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Akwat Kbrana said:

Wha...?? YOU JERK!! You've just ruined the entire movie for me!!

That's what Ben's ghost said to Luke when he fell for the Leia is Luke's sister gag AKA Yoda's last laugh.

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For the record, I always just considered Greedo to be a 2nd rate bounty hunter.  Hell, maybe he's a 3rd rate bounty hunter.  He likely was on Jabba's permanent payroll, but wanted to be a big shot by capturing Solo.  He wanted something to gloat about.

Why Boba Fett is lurking around the palace in ROTJ?  Not sure.  Maybe Jabba put him on the payroll as protection, but Fett's an expensive professional.  From whom would Jabba be afraid of coming after him in his own palace to employ Boba Fett at such a high cost.  I'm sure the Hutt's got the money, but that's not the point.  Fett's not the type to just hang around out of luxury.

-NJM

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Nicholas J. Michalak said:

Why Boba Fett is lurking around the palace in ROTJ?  Not sure.  Maybe Jabba put him on the payroll as protection, but Fett's an expensive professional.  From whom would Jabba be afraid of coming after him in his own palace to employ Boba Fett at such a high cost.  I'm sure the Hutt's got the money, but that's not the point.  Fett's not the type to just hang around out of luxury.

-NJM

I feel sometimes I come off as a "Fett-hater" but there's nothing in the movies to imply Boba is anything special that would be high cost. He's one of many bounty hunters Vader contacted to go after Solo. Fett was just on his game that day.

And there's also nothing to say Fett wouldn't much rather hang out in Jabba's opium den all day and flirt with dancers rather than gallivant around the galaxy in his uncomfortable little spaceship. Looks like a good gig.

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Just depends on how you want to look at it.  Just take it as it was when the film was released, or coupled with all the EU stuff.  If it's the latter, then Fett is proclaimed as the best bounty hunter in all the galaxy with Bossk, supposedly, right behind him (which Bossk conceits to).  So, if you take it that way, then, yes, Fett is an expensive guy to put on the payroll.  If you just take the films at face value, then, it's just whatever you want to make it.  Still, Fett could be out grabbing another bounty, and getting paid for it instead of lurking around Jabba's palace.  Considering he's there in all his armor and weaponry, it's unlikely he's there for a vacation.

-NJM

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It's really no mystery.  Fett hangs out at Jabba's Palace to hang with the ladies.  Chicks dig the mando armor.

 

 

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Nicholas J. Michalak said:

Just depends on how you want to look at it.  Just take it as it was when the film was released, or coupled with all the EU stuff.  If it's the latter, then Fett is proclaimed as the best bounty hunter in all the galaxy with Bossk, supposedly, right behind him (which Bossk conceits to).  So, if you take it that way, then, yes, Fett is an expensive guy to put on the payroll.  If you just take the films at face value, then, it's just whatever you want to make it.  Still, Fett could be out grabbing another bounty, and getting paid for it instead of lurking around Jabba's palace.

I seems with Fett and the EU we tend to put the cart before the horse.

The question seems to be

"Why is Fett, the King Badass of the Universe, behave in such an un-badass manner in the films?"

instead of more appropriately

"Why does the EU insist Fett is King Badass when in the films he's clearly not, and is perfectly happy to be sneaky, call for reinforcements, never shoots anyone, and take a job chilling full time at Jabba's palace before dying like a shmoe?"

If the EU told us Han Solo was a Jedi, I don't think we'd look at the films as say "Why doesn't he use his Jedi powers more?" We'd just say the EU was wrong. For some reason with Fett it seems to go the other way.

But even IF Boba is the top bounty hunter of the universe, that's no reason to assume he wouldn't rather take a high paying gig as Jabba's bodyguard.

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My puzzlement isn't why Fett would take the job, but why would Jabba need a high priced bodyguard?  Who is he so afraid of that he needs one?  And if Fett isn't the most badass hunter in the galaxy, why would Jabba skimp on the protection factor if he did need a bodyguard?  This is my confusion.

-NJM

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Nicholas J. Michalak said:

My puzzlement isn't why Fett would take the job, but why would Jabba need a high priced bodyguard?  Who is he so afraid of that he needs one?  And if Fett isn't the most badass hunter in the galaxy, why would Jabba skimp on the protection factor if he did need a bodyguard?  This is my confusion.

-NJM

Given that Jabba previously employed Gringo I don't think we should place to much faith in his HR department.

Fett showed up with Han in a Box (good Alice in Chains song) and cool armor and Jabba said "I like the cut of your jib. Be my goon on call!" and Boba decided that a room in the palace and a hot showgirl beat tracking down another bail jumper. And Jabba obviously has at least a small army of armed retainers already seeing to his protection, so one more badass fits right in.

Or maybe the bounty on Han's head, coupled with what he got from Vader gave Fett such a surplus of cash he bought shares in Jabbacorp and is now hanging out in the shareholder's suite.

I mean look at the array of weirdees and circus freaks Jabba keeps around him. He's like Howard Stern! Who knows why any of those guys are there?

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TheBoost said:

Fett showed up with Han in a Box...

1) Cut a hole in a box
2) Put your Han in a box
3) Get her to open the box

And that's the way you do it.