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Hey group. This is my first post on this Web site. I'm a long-time fan of Star Wars (I saw the original in the theaters when I was seven years old).

Anyway, I just got my OT set from TR47. Yes, I scanned through this entire thread, read about all the controversy, and let me say this -- the set is AWESOME! I don't think I've seen these films in widescreen since the theaters. The picture is great, the sound is great.

I've already watched ANH and TESB, and also the disc of extras. This set is absolutely worth the money.

P.S. -- I'm still tempted to buy the new set coming out in September. I'm such a sucker!
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TR47 totally cannot compare with the real DVD from EndorForest.com, because the DVD from EndorForest is a state of the art masterpiece. The DVD has been printed (stamp) by the same machine which produce the SE version, some of you who didn't know about it, for your info, most of the DVD released in the States were printed in Asia. That is how the movie industry stay alive during the economic crisis. Cut cost.... cut cost.... that is how they can still make money, if it were to be printed in US, I think the it won't cost you the price you can buy it.

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It's a bit more obvious now, isn't it?

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: Death Star
TR47 totally cannot compare with the real DVD from EndorForest.com, because the DVD from EndorForest is a state of the art masterpiece. The DVD has been printed (stamp) by the same machine which produce the SE version, some of you who didn't know about it, for your info, most of the DVD released in the States were printed in Asia. That is how the movie industry stay alive during the economic crisis. Cut cost.... cut cost.... that is how they can still make money, if it were to be printed in US, I think the it won't cost you the price you can buy it.

"Next target wil be you on the planet earth"


Get out of here, endorforest! We know it's you. Nobody's going to buy your crappy sets if you spam the forums like this (not that anyone was actually gonna buy them in the first place, since you've already spammed the forums once). Can someone please ban this guy again?
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'State of the art masterpiece'? For God's sake, it's a frigging BOOTLEG! How can it be a masterpiece?!
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Originally posted by: Death Star aka Endor Forest
TR47 totally cannot compare with the real DVD from EndorForest.com, because the DVD from EndorForest is a state of the art masterpiece. The DVD has been printed (stamp) by the same machine which produce the SE version, some of you who didn't know about it, for your info, most of the DVD released in the States were printed in Asia. That is how the movie industry stay alive during the economic crisis. Cut cost.... cut cost.... that is how they can still make money, if it were to be printed in US, I think the it won't cost you the price you can buy it.


Just because something is factory made does not make it better. I think many of us here have been disappointed by other manufactured original trilogy DVDs made in recent years. I know I have. Unforunately, the EndorForest.com set is no exception. Nice artwork was made for covers, inserts, and disc art, but that's it. Whoever made these discs really missed the boat. All of the work was already done for them with the TR47 set and the Anamorphic set, but they decided to do their own transfer and botched the job. It has no PCM audio, no commentary track, with low contrast, fuzzy and jittery video. What the hell happened? With dual-layer capability, the EndorForest.com set could have given us the audio and video quality of the TR47 set AND all of the bells and whistles of the Anamorphic set on beautifully packaged, factory manufactured DVDs. No dice. I have all three sets mentioned here. The TR47 set and the Anamorphic set are still the best available. Pass on EndorForest.com.
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I may be the only one but I would love to see a dual layered movie only version of these movies. Granted the bonus stuff is cool and all but aren't we talking about getting the ABSOLUTE BEST picture and sound quality available in order to preserve these movies? In my opinion (Which by some of you may be wrong) is that a movie only dual layered version of the trilogy will be a better goal than a dual layered disc full of crap and decent quality. Do we really want to take the TR47 quality disc and just put that on a new disc with more stuff or do we want a high quality movie that is light years ahead of the past bootlegs?

(Pun intended sorry)

Really if were looking for good bonus stuff for the original trilogy why not just pick up a copy of the new DVD’s in September? At least that will have a real commentary track on it.

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You're not the only one. We would all love to see a super high quality, dual layered version of the original trilogy, but the one from endorforest.com is definitely not it. With their technology and the equipment, the authors of that set could have made what we want (even without using the TR47 or Anamorphic set as masters), but they messed it up. It's been years since a factory pressed bootleg of the OT has been made and because this version is still better than previous versions, I don't see a new one being done in this fashion for some time (if at all). Dual layered DVD-R and +R are still too new to see a set done properly (and inexpensively) in our own homes without compatibility issues real soon, but they will come. In the meantime, the TR47 and Anamorphic sets are the best versions available. I just don't want to see anyone throwing their hard earned cash away on the endorforest.com set because even with being dual layed and factory pressed, it is still inferior to the other two sets we have already seen (which are cheaper)!

Also, the official release will have new and improved extras, but I would like to see The Definitive Collection preserved as is on DVD because it was made in 1993 and captures the feeling of that time before all of the hoopla of the CGI Special Editions.


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This is rather amusing, as I had a small part in convincing the asians of the demand for a new dual layer OT set. Of course, they decided to do their own transfer and it came out poorly. I even offered to send them copies of my discs through a contact in Malaysia and have them do their own transfer of the bonus footage, but it never happened. A contact of mine here in the USA gave them a list of requirements, and only about half of them were met. The requirements included PCM original audio (along with their request to do a fake 5.1), no fake DTS, no asian subtitles, a commentary track, a high video bitrate and as many extra features as possible on a DVD9. Well, they got some of it right, and as Rowman set it is better than the old asian OT set from 2000, but it is still mediocre compared to the 2 sets floating around here. The asian pirates who made the set are more interested in profit margins than preserving classic movies in their true format or audio/video quality. I haven't actually seen it yet since my samples have not arrived but I can safely say I will have no part in selling it due to its inferior nature. It doesn't really matter since I have already mentioned before that work has begun on a new DVD9 set which will be the penultimate transfer outside of a professional A/V lab.
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Hey TR47,

Will these upcoming DVD-9 versions of the OT be available in 16:9 format as well? Will they be factory presses or DVD+R copies (which will create compatibilty issues with many)? And what timeframe are we looking at for availability?

Thanks.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=617&item=6301641503&rd=1

is this 7 disc set the same as the endor forest version?
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We're aiming to put them into 16:9 format, yes. They will not be factory pressed unless you can find a plant willing to do that! I'm looking to have them available by the end of the year, when dual layer media will be readily available and less expensive. Hopefully DVD-R dual layer format discs will be out by then for compatibility reasons.

Originally posted by: The Dean of Don Mills
Hey TR47,

Will these upcoming DVD-9 versions of the OT be available in 16:9 format as well? Will they be factory presses or DVD+R copies (which will create compatibilty issues with many)? And what timeframe are we looking at for availability?

Thanks.


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That's not the endorforest set. Are you thinking of getting it?

DON'T!!!!

103 bux is a shit load of money for that set.

either get the TR47 set or download the torrents.



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Hey digitalfreak,

I'll have the torrents downloaded in about three hours. I'll put up a review for you sometime in the next few days.

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I will admit, the artwork and case are really nice, but something tells me these aren't DVDs--I mean, why would they need to use two discs for each movie. That's VCD, or SVCD, most likely. Don't go for it. If you're wanting menus and commentary and such, go with the anamorphic set; it's really well done. Can't comment on the TR47 set, as I don't have it, but others have highly recommended it.
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these aren't vcds. anybody have any experience with this version? they claim "not compressed". any comments?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=617&item=6301641503&rd=1

This auction is for a 7 Disc DVD Case along with the Star Wars cover art shown below. HOWEVER, PURCHASE NOW TO RECEIVE THE ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY DVD SET – ON 7 DVDs! These are NOT THE 1997 SPECIAL EDITIONS. THEY ARE NOT COMPRESSED! They are not the soon to be released re-edited 2004 Special Editions, they are the Original Star Wars Trilogy that we all grew up with and loved. See the list below for full technical details:
§         One 7 Disc DVD Case with Star Wars Cover art
§         Original Star Wars 1977/1980/1983 Theatrical Versions
§         DVD-9 Quality
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§         Disc 1 & 2 – Star Wars (A New Hope)
§         Disc 3 & 4 – Empire Strikes Back
§         Disc 5 & 6 – Return of the Jedi
§         Disc 7 – Extras Disc featuring
o       Deleted Scenes
o       Behind the Scenes
o       Image Gallery
o       In Depth Interviews
o       Theatrical Trailers
o       Documentary of the making of Star Wars
§         Each disc has a RARE Audio Commentary track running throughout each movie
§         Each film is presented in its original 2.35:1 theatrical widescreen aspect ratio
§         THX Re-mastered Dolby Digital Surround Sound track
§         No audio sync problems whatsoever!
§         Compatible with nearly all DVD players (especially within the last 2 years)
§         Compatible with DVD-ROMs (PC & Mac), XBOX and PS2
§         By far the best set available online! See our customer feedback below!
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The way I interpret it is that they have split each movie on two DVD-5. That way they get about the same space that is included on a Dual Layer disc. They only say that it is "not compressed on 4 DVD-5". That is true, I think this set is compressed on 7 DVD-5. The quality on this set could very well be equal to the endorforest set, and that set is according to a lot of people not very good. But it could also be the best set out there. 100 bucks is a lot of money on one set. I am not in a hurry to get the definitive collection on DVD, but when I do, I want it to be a set with great quality. Until someone can make a totally uncompressed set we will always want more.
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Hey guys, my first post here.

I'm currently getting the torrent versions, which from what I can tell are the "Anamorphic" set everyone here talks about.

I was just wondering for those who have downloaded this same set, is the 7 secs of Leia welding included in this rip, or were the "faulty" LaserDiscs used for this rip, where the footage is missing.

Much appreciated.

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Originally posted by: RATLSNAKE
Hey guys, my first post here.

I'm currently getting the torrent versions, which from what I can tell are the "Anamorphic" set everyone here talks about.

I was just wondering for those who have downloaded this same set, is the 7 secs of Leia welding included in this rip, or were the "faulty" LaserDiscs used for this rip, where the footage is missing.

Much appreciated.

RATLSNAKE


I have the "anamorphic" set and yes the Leia welding footage is indeed missing.
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Yes, it's missing, but to be honest, I barely noticed it.

Does anyone else notice a similarity on those e-bay DVDs between the DVD disc art and the disc art on the SE soundtracks?
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Originally posted by: The Dean of Don Mills
Originally posted by: RATLSNAKE
Hey guys, my first post here.

I'm currently getting the torrent versions, which from what I can tell are the "Anamorphic" set everyone here talks about.

I was just wondering for those who have downloaded this same set, is the 7 secs of Leia welding included in this rip, or were the "faulty" LaserDiscs used for this rip, where the footage is missing.

Much appreciated.

RATLSNAKE


I have the "anamorphic" set and yes the Leia welding footage is indeed missing.


Ah crap. I had a bad feeling that might be the answer.

Oh well, can't be too picky I spose.

Thanks for that.

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"Each disc has a RARE Audio Commentary track running throughout each movie"

If it's the Def.Col. commentary, then it doesn't run throughout the movie.

"THX Re-mastered Dolby Digital Surround Sound track"

Read as DD 2.0

"THEY ARE NOT COMPRESSED!"

Well, MPEG is always compressed, and the seller qualifies this later as "Not compressed onto 4 DVD-5s like all other sets!"

My raw DV-AVO captures have been 30 GB's, and Laserman is talking 200 GB's (I believe he's using Huffy), so there's got to be some compression.

That being said, the soon-to-be-coming HD-DVD's hold about 30 GBs. How I'd love to put my uncompressed AVI's onto one of those for playback. Sooooo much smoother than anything I've been able to get from MPEG encoding. Ah, one can dream (and yes, I know DVD players don't play AVI's. )

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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You guys keep missing the fact that this auction is for the SE's and Non-se's. One disc has one and the other has the other. The movies aren't split. It's just every version together in one box.

I wonder if these are the new DVD+R dual layered versions. Who knows, I guess.
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Ooops.

i was wrong.

scratch that.

But it does say DVD9 quality...which is bullshit. It's not dual layered...they're just saying it's dual layer quality.

Some poor sap is gonna purchase this and it's all crap.