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Blu-ray regions are slightly different than DVD regions, AFAIK, but I would guess players would region-restrict both DVD and Blu-ray, using each respective region-coding. Its a good question actually, maybe someone knows the actual answer; in any event there are region-free players being made, hopefully these will stick around and not fade away.

As far as that copy-protecting issue, its news to me--where did you read that? So many newspapers and mainstream magazines have such ridiculously inaccurate info, often designed either to sell something with slanted or misinformed opinion or create controversy with slanted and misinformed opinion, that I'm inclined to take it only with a grain of salt for the time being. It would be a silly move anyway, since everyone knows encryption gets cracked eventually.
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Any copy protection that even comes close to threatening private use of blank discs is outrageous. I'd doubt that any hardware manufacturer would have the guts to care about the movie industry's profits that much. But, I suppose it could be possible.

Otherwise, region encoding is absolutely worthless. It probably accounts for less disc sales than any it protects from pirating.

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Originally posted by: Knightmessenger
"Recent information that BDMV (Blu-ray's commercial movie format) discs soon won't play without AACS encryption. Neither the discs or the software required to encrypt the content have been available to consumers so far, but Authoring for non-encrypted discs has. This will apparently force people who have already created their own BD movies from Camcorder footage or MPEG transport streams (from digital TV) may have to spend a lot of money copying discs to new media, or simply lose the abillity to play it."

What? Does this mean if I don't put some sort of copy protection on my home videos that they won't play? As soon as the price becomes reasonable (and it will be sooner than later now with the Warner decision), I had planned on burning my standard definition camcorder videos to a blu-ray disc because I'll be able to fit so much more on a disc and not worry about compressing it. I don't care about whatever copy protection there is for commercial movies, I just want to burn my own discs. Oh and if I ever was to legally purchase a blu-ray disc, I would expect it to play.

Also, where is some good information on the region coding for the new players? I know HD doesn't have it and Blu-ray has 3 but are they also set to restrict the current dvd regions.


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More nonsense from teh innernets.

Watched the Donner cut of Superman II and the final cut of Blade Runner on my PS3 tonight. Awesome.

Great media hub too. I stream videos and music from my Mac to my PS3 over my wireless network.
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Originally posted by: Jay
More nonsense from teh innernets.

Watched the Donner cut of Superman II and the final cut of Blade Runner on my PS3 tonight. Awesome.

Great media hub too. I stream videos and music from my Mac to my PS3 over my wireless network.



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Originally posted by: Jay
More nonsense from teh innernets.


Care to explain why it's nonsense?

I don't know why they'd do that, but that's the way it reads. I would assume that when recording video to a blu-ray disc, it gets recorded in the same format as a commercially available Blu-ray movie, minus the encryption. If the players aren't going to play anything without AACS, then the story is accurate. It would be akin to DVD players not playing anything that doesn't have a CSS key. We all know that isn't possible, since DVD burners, at least the consumer ones, can't even record a CSS key. That doesn't mean the video format for CSS protected DVDs is any different from non CSS protected DVDs. The formats are exactly the same, the only difference is the lack of a key.

So is it true or not? Will future Blu-ray players refuse to play movies that aren't encrypted with AACS?

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Highly, highly doubtful.
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And yet some articles from last year would indicate otherwise:

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BD-R playback being reigned in?

It looks like unless you have 3.0 media, you won't be able to watch your personal recordings if you do them in BDMV format. Of course, you have free reign if you use the plain BDAV format, but that doesn't give you fancy menus.
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so is the war over
blueray has won
can i come out and buy with confidence.
nice guys finish last
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Originally posted by: shimy
so is the war over
blueray has won
can i come out and buy with confidence.


I dunno, Blu-Ray seems to be having tons of issues with the fact they are a uncomplete format. BD 1.1 and 2.0 and all that jive. I do know that the main feature will play irregardless of player, but if you want to see those great bonus features that require 20 more gigs of space, then you should hold out for a 2.0 player.*

*Now I await to be jumped on by Sony fanboys.
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Originally posted by: ferris209
Originally posted by: shimy
so is the war over
blueray has won
can i come out and buy with confidence.


I dunno, Blu-Ray seems to be having tons of issues with the fact they are a uncomplete format. BD 1.1 and 2.0 and all that jive. I do know that the main feature will play irregardless of player, but if you want to see those great bonus features that require 20 more gigs of space, then you should hold out for a 2.0 player.*

*Now I await to be jumped on by Sony fanboys.


I guess you can label me a fanboy, but this is how the current market is.... Blu-ray is the heavy odds on favorite to win. After Warner's defection they now have 70% of studio support including Sony, Disney, Warner, and Fox. HD-DVD currently has Paramount and Universal. Over the last year BR has sold software at 2:1 ratio with HD-DVD. After the Warner announcement the ratio jumped up to 5:1(only one week of data available thus far). Toshiba's response was cutting their player prices once again... but it doesn't look like people are taking the bait.

The much ballyhooed profile mess from 1.0->1.1->2.0.... Supposedly all players even 1.0, will be able to play the movie itself. Those with 1.1 or higher will be able to see picture in picture commentaries. 2.0 adds web"enhancements" like be able to download ring tones or whatever. Its up to you if those extras are worth worrying about.

Even so the PS3 is 1.1 compatible right now and at CES they re-affirmed that'll they be able to update to 2.0 later this year via firmware update. So the PS3 is pretty much future proof. And like I said earlier it is one nice piece of hardware.

Just to flame proof this post I don't like any particular electronics corporation... they all suck in general ($ony, Micro$oft, To$hiba, etc). I first bought an HD-DVD add on for my 360 and it was pretty nice, but I sold it when I saw how the format war was becoming more and more heavily favored on the Blu-ray side. I buy things that I find will fit my needs.. I don't really think any emotional investment towards electronics equipment is particularly healthy.
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Yeah, I've heard that in Japan and in Europe Blu-ray is dominating HD-DVD. Now that Blu-ray is now clearly getting ahead in America, I don't see HD-DVD remaining viable any longer.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005