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Thought this was a ransom letter....;)

It's been talked about here

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Jaitea said:

Thought this was a ransom letter....;)

It might come to that. "Stop making those fan preservations/recreations or we won't release the movies" ;)

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Roger Christian recently confirmed rumours of digital versions becoming available in November 2014.  It's possible these will be the original versions.

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kane1138 said:

Roger Christian recently confirmed rumours of digital versions becoming available in November 2014.  It's possible these will be the original versions.

I doubt it. Unless they accompany a dvd/bd set and a huge media hullabaloo about how these are the ORIGINALS etc.

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It was inevitable that the OOT would come out fully remastered the day Disney bought Lucasfilm.  Its not a matter of if anymore, its just when.  Lucas wouldn't release them to spite the fans, but Disney did not plop down 4 Billion dollars to let any money maker of the SW name go.

I have been saying since they announced Episode 7 and the Big 3 were coming back that the ideal time to release the OOT was the lead up to Episode 7. 

The next year will be a throwback year to OOT SW fans, as FINALLY the franchise is catering to us again, and not giving us the middle finger like Lucas has done since 1997. 

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Yep 'I've got a POSITIVE feeling about this'

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If this is true, I hope they remaster an original print, and don't try to despecialize it, because they'll miss something and when we start complaining we'll be told to stop looking a gift horse in the mouth.

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^  I agree. The rumors don't worry me it the fact that I hope they do it right.

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Studios do this kind of thing all the time when you think about it.  When a new movie comes out you see the old titles and even some that have not had a release to dvd or Blu ray hit the shelves.  Godzilla? 

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CO said:

It was inevitable that the OOT would come out fully remastered the day Disney bought Lucasfilm.  Its not a matter of if anymore, its just when.  Lucas wouldn't release them to spite the fans, but Disney did not plop down 4 Billion dollars to let any money maker of the SW name go.

I have been saying since they announced Episode 7 and the Big 3 were coming back that the ideal time to release the OOT was the lead up to Episode 7. 

The next year will be a throwback year to OOT SW fans, as FINALLY the franchise is catering to us again, and not giving us the middle finger like Lucas has done since 1997. 

 I agree.  I think the original version will be properly released, sooner rather than later.  Four billion means you get to do whatever you want.  No Lucas and not even Fox really.  Money talks and Disney has more than can be imagined.  They'll make Fox an offer they can't refuse.

Plus there is a noticeable lean to the first three films now.  Everything is OT-centric.  The cultural impact and resonance has always been the original films and story, but it even seems more prominent now.  Much more mainstream.  Even from Disney.

It's not just in nerd circles now either.  The OT even made an appearance at New York Fashion Week several days ago.

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I was convinced George would eventually get around to it (yes, before any of this Disney buy-out stuff happened). Now that it's in the hands of a corporation that has no ego to bruise, it's inevitable.

The completionist side of me actually wants the theatrical cuts of all six films and the '97 versions of the OT as well. Individual releases of the movies on blu-ray are yet to happen, so this would be a perfect excuse to make each individual episode its own "ultimate collector's edition," kinda like Warner did with Harry Potter.

Then again, I could also see Disney swinging the other way and maybe just doing a 3-disc set of the remastered OOT.

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We'd all view this as a good thing, even if it's only good for a new source for "despecialization" efforts. 

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.

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kane1138 said:

Roger Christian recently confirmed rumours of digital versions becoming available in November 2014.  It's possible these will be the original versions.

 When/where was this?

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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Hopefully, if they do this (eventually they will), the color grading will be decent and not blue or green as seems to magically happen with blurays.

Even if I end up preferring Harmy's version due to some foulup in a Disney release, I'll be buying it to support something that should have been done long ago. 

PS: Off topic, but does anyone know *why* blurays end up with funky color grading? It's not a result of the transfer, is it? Is it just an attempt to make things look more "modern"?

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They end up like that because someone thinks it's a good idea. Sometimes directors go back and grade their movies the way they - supposedly - would've wanted them to look back when those movies were released, or something along those lines (Blade Runner comes to mind as one example of that). It's not an accident.

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towne32 said:

PS: Off topic, but does anyone know *why* blurays end up with funky color grading? It's not a result of the transfer, is it? Is it just an attempt to make things look more "modern"?

The modern color-timing trend is teal and orange, so a lot of old movies remastered within the last several years exhibit this trait. It has nothing to do with the transfer process itself. If you go back and look at early blu-rays (from like 2006 to 2009) that were using the same hd masters used to make the dvd just several years earlier, there's no difference in color-timing.

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As long as they hire Laser Pacific and not Reliance I will be happy 

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Also, FWIW, transferring right off the OCN typically does not result in anything like accurate theatrical colors, so some sort of color grading does need to happen when creating a new HD master.

Sometimes they honestly try to do a good job, but don't (and for the life of me, I don't understand why) use any sort of color reference.  You end up with Blu-rays that look quite good, but totally unlike the theatrical colors (example: Do the Right Thing).

Sometimes they go through the trouble of matching the color temperature of a projector bulb from the same era and end up looking totally unlike all previous home video releases, and people don't believe the colors are accurate even when they actually are.

And sometimes they go all revisionist.  In many cases, it's because the color grading was done by people who grade things in teal and orange all day long, and they just go through the same process they always use, and somehow they manage to get someone to sign off on it.

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towne32 said:

PS: Off topic, but does anyone know *why* blurays end up with funky color grading? It's not a result of the transfer, is it? Is it just an attempt to make things look more "modern"?

The blue/green colour shift was done in 2004 DVD already.

Complaining about colour tone is kinda pointless. If you saw the original version in theatre the projector distorted the colours. When they did VHS transfer, the lighting they used in the process again defined the colours. If they used different conditions they would get different colours. And now finally, the colours burned on the film stock themselves might not reflect the colours that were actually perceived and set on the stage by director and DP (human eye).

On final note, most of the video software allows you to change colour properties quite easily. So if you like the faded colours experienced by the screen projection you can just lower the saturation.

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doubleofive said:

If this is true, I hope they remaster an original print, and don't try to despecialize it, because they'll miss something and when we start complaining we'll be told to stop looking a gift horse in the mouth.

 I'd love to see an 8K transfer of the Technicolor prints they still have

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imperialscum said:

towne32 said:

PS: Off topic, but does anyone know *why* blurays end up with funky color grading? It's not a result of the transfer, is it? Is it just an attempt to make things look more "modern"?

The blue/green colour shift was done in 2004 DVD already.

Complaining about colour tone is kinda pointless. If you saw the original version in theatre the projector distorted the colours. When they did VHS transfer, the lighting they used in the process again defined the colours. If they used different conditions they would get different colours. And now finally, the colours burned on the film stock themselves might not reflect the colours that were actually perceived and set on the stage by director and DP (human eye).

On final note, most of the video software allows you to change colour properties quite easily. So if you like the faded colours experienced by the screen projection you can just lower the saturation.

 Following various people's preservation/restoration projects, I do see your point. What exactly should be used as the standard is not an easy question. And color is not one of my major complaints with the SE.

My point was just that, if they do attempt this and produce something "imperfect", I'll still buy it to support the fact that it was even attempted after all these years. Color seemed like a realistic 'imperfection' that some might expect.

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pittrek said:

doubleofive said:

If this is true, I hope they remaster an original print, and don't try to despecialize it, because they'll miss something and when we start complaining we'll be told to stop looking a gift horse in the mouth.

 I'd love to see an 8K transfer of the Technicolor prints they still have

Wouldn't that be overkill?

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m_s0 said:

pittrek said:

 I'd love to see an 8K transfer of the Technicolor prints they still have

Wouldn't that be overkill?

Yes.

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FrankT said:

kane1138 said:

Roger Christian recently confirmed rumours of digital versions becoming available in November 2014.  It's possible these will be the original versions.

 When/where was this?

 Last week's episode of Rebel Force Radio.