Well one thing I noticed is that these bars are not noticable every scene BUT they are still there it looks like
I went back to the DVD, and found what I was looking for
For you guys to understand my stance watch the INTRO given by R. Scott on the workprint, in there is comparison shots that makes you think that they captured it as 2.39:1 and then forced it to 2.18, I included some pics that makes me think so as well....and you can tell thats exactly where those "ghost bars" would come from
When you check it out let me know what you think
Heres some pics
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Those shots on the right seem to be at closer to 2.55:1 than 2.39:1 (though the ones on the left do look like 70mm's 2.20:1) - I'd have to actually measure them out to check, though. Strange ... perhaps they had a higher-quality print at 2.55:1, and a lesser-quality one (possibly even a 35mm one) at 2.20:1, and digitally combined the two.
The way Scott makes it sound in his intro is that.....while these look like 2 completely different sources, they are the same source! I KNOW, its a shock but watch the intro they say its the same source print for both the left and right side
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Well that's just ridiculous ... how could that be? Perhaps he meant that they're both the workprint, and they combined the two, not that they're the exact same source - some might have been under the impression that they filled in the dead space with the DC or something ...
This is all very strange.
Naa man, he specifically states that only 1 print remains and that this was used for the DVD and those screencaps are taken from the DVD where they show what the print looked like before and after the preservation they made...although I still call bullshit on ONLY 1 print remains, I bet some theaters and/or private collectors have this print
Watch the intro, if you dont have it, I can up the VOB, its only 30-35 MBs.....but its the same print being used
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I have it, it's just buried among the DVDs on the shelf in my basement and I'm too lazy to get it out right now. They must have used another source to fill in the top and bottom, hence the strange "shadow bars." I can't think of any other explanation, or any way they could have restored that information if said print is, as Scott said, the only one used/existing.
The version on the "right" is a copy, plain and simple, the "shadow bars" have nothing to do with the source being digitally modified. The original workprint - as is well established - was a 70mm print. At least the version is actually on DVD, after all it's only die-hard fans who care about, no one else wants nor needs to see that version of the film. I'd suspect that when the 70mm print was copied to 35mm, for some reason it was cropped at the top and bottom, and that process damaged the film somewhat resulting in the shadow bars. They could well have pulled both version from the same film under that understanding since the "shadow bars" showed them where the film was cropped when it was copied to 35mm. Or they might have known exactly how it was copied and done that on the few frames you see that are not colour-corrected and are heavily cropped. That's just a guess; remember people said the work-print was grainy in the theaters, so I don't think they used the best copying process they could when they showed it in theaters...