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I am just wondering if you know any thing about the Berne Act. I found this info on Ebay.. Is this valid?

A. By bidding on this auction, you understand that you must already own these films on another format (VHS, Beta, LD, VCD, etc.) and that you are purchasing these DVDs for repository purposes. IF you do not OWN these films, you may purchase them for evaluation purposes only, with the intent to dispose the discs within 24 hours. Since the original Star Wars Trilogy will remain unreleased in the USA (or anywhere else) these films can now be interpreted as public domain and are therefore not protected by American copyright under the Berne Act. I offer these discs as a service to true fans that wish to enjoy these films as they have been originally presented.
Absolute rubbish, it is not legal at all. Not in the US, not here. In fact here it's even less legal since we don't have laws protecting acceptable use (but acceptable use is not prosecuted, it could be here). In Australia it is illegal to make personal back-up copies of Movies, of CDs - even if it's to use an MP3 player or a minidisc player it is illegal. Making compilation CDs from CDs you own is illegal. Taping a TV show is illegal under Australian law. The only thing you are legally allowed to back-up is computer software (that does include video games, but it does not make downloading ROMs you own legal). I know the US has different back-up laws, you can tape TV shows, you probably can make compilation CDs legally and personal DVD back-ups.


Here is the actual "Berne Act" ....

Copyright Law of the United States of America and Related Laws Contained in Title 17 of the United States Code

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Appendix II.
Berne Convention Implementation Act of 19881
Sec. 2. Declarations.
The Congress makes the following declarations:

(1) The Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, signed at Berne, Switzerland, on September 9, 1886, and all acts, protocols, and revisions thereto (hereafter in this Act referred to as the “Berne Convention”) are not self-executing under the Constitution and laws of the United States.

(2) The obligations of the United States under the Berne Convention may be performed only pursuant to appropriate domestic law.

(3) The amendments made by this Act, together with the law as it exists on the date of the enactment of this Act, satisfy the obligations of the United States in adhering to the Berne Convention and no further rights or interests shall be recognized or created for that purpose.

Sec. 3. Construction of the Berne Convention.
(a) Relationship With Domestic Law. — The provisions of the Berne Convention —

(1) shall be given effect under title 17, as amended by this Act, and any other relevant provision of Federal or State law, including the common law; and

(2) shall not be enforceable in any action brought pursuant to the provisions of the Berne Convention itself.

(b) Certain Rights Not Affected. — The provisions of the Berne Convention, the adherence of the United States thereto, and satisfaction of United States obligations thereunder, do not expand or reduce any right of an author of a work, whether claimed under Federal, State, or the common law —

(1) to claim authorship of the work; or

(2) to object to any distortion, mutilation, or other modification of, or other derogatory action in relation to, the work, that would prejudice the author's honor or reputation.

Sec. 12. Works in the public domain.
Title 17, United States Code, as amended by this Act, does not provide copyright protection for any work that is in the public domain in the United States.

Sec. 13. Effective date: effect on pending cases.
(a) Effective Date. — This Act and the amendments made by this Act take effect on the date on which the Berne Convention (as defined in section 101 of title 17, United States Code) enters into force with respect to the United States.2

(b) Effect on Pending Cases. — Any cause of action arising under title 17, United States Code, before the effective date of this Act shall be governed by the provisions of such title as in effect when the cause of action arose.

Appendix II Endnotes
1Part II of the Appendix consists of provisions of the Berne Convention Implementation Act of 1988, Pub. L. No. 100-568, 102 Stat. 2853, that do not amend title 17 of the United States Code.

2The Berne Convention entered into force in the United States on March 1, 1989.


“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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Forget the Berne Convention Implementation Act of 1988

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The Star Wars DVD Cover Collection - over 190 covers!!
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“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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anyone know where i can get the anamorphic WS Definitive Version of the OOT?? i know where to get the factory pressed D9 DVDs but havent seen the anamorphic versions. if th anamorphic is far surperior to the D9.....i would want to get this rather than the dual layer factory pressed Definitive Collection. greatly appreciated to anyone that can help. if you dont feel like replying publicly in this topic, PM me. Thanks
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Well, a guy like me or Rik can burn you them (the Dr Gonzo version), or you can download them from the torrents. Alternativly you can get the TR-47 version which is better quality, if you ask me.
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Hey, I just found these forums through Google. It seems like this is the right place to ask my question!

I've got a few friends on another online forum (the Bass Guitar forum on harmony-central.com, if anyone wants to know) who really want to get a hold of the ORIGINAL SW Trilogy in DVD format(i.e. rips from the LD's). None of them have DVD burners but me, so I offered to download the Trilogy and burn it for them. I'm a nice guy, aftar all . I'm not really charging them anything for it, just a little to cover my costs for the DVD's/cases/postage/gas for the trip to the post office.

I live in BC, Canada, but I'm 5 minutes away from the US border. Whenever I ship to US addresses, I just take the package across the border and ship it from there. The government officials at the border usually just ask what it is you're sending and let you go.

I've read through the posts so far, but I'm still unsure about the copyright/piracy laws in the states. The people I'm making the DVDs for own the original video on a different format (Laser Disc, or some have the originals on VHS). So, these videos really are backup copies, in another format. Should I have anything to worry about?

Oh, and on another note, the files I downloaded are ripped by [BroJ]. They appear to have pretty good video/audio quality. There are some basic menus that look like this one:

Anyone know what "version" I have?
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Dr Gonzo's version. You probably don't have anything to worry about, but it is still illegal - but then again I don't know Canadian law, you'd have to look it up yourself. I know it's illegal in Australia, NZ, the UK and the US - and *should* be illegal in all countries that uphold copyright laws, except if they explicitly give you a legal right to make back-up/archival copies. For instance, here in Australia I have a legal right to make a back-up of software, but not of movies or music. Taping a show off a TV without permission from the copyright holder is also illegal (but no one's ever been charged for it).
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Dr Gonzo's version. You probably don't have anything to worry about, but it is still illegal - but then again I don't know Canadian law, you'd have to look it up yourself. I know it's illegal in Australia, NZ, the UK and the US - and *should* be illegal in all countries that uphold copyright laws, except if they explicitly give you a legal right to make back-up/archival copies. For instance, here in Australia I have a legal right to make a back-up of software, but not of movies or music. Taping a show off a TV without permission from the copyright holder is also illegal (but no one's ever been charged for it).



Thanks for the reply!

As for copyright laws in Canada, there are none, really. We pay an extra little tax on recordable media (hard drives, blank media, etc) that supposedly goes to the artists, but as far as I know it's legal to make backup copies of products you've purchased.

However, the Canadian Laws won't really come into play here. Since I'm going into the states, I'm dealing with US border guards who are enforcing US law. I really wanted to go about this honestly, but if it's illegal in the US to make backup copies of movies you purchased, I guess that won't be possible.
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They introduced that tax on certain CD-R's in Australia too - however that doesn't change the fact that it is still illegal to copy music, even if you own it, unless you have explicit permission from the copyright holder. In fact, AFAIK the ACCC was opposed to the tax, partly on the basis that it wrongfully implies that copying copyrighted material for back-up/archival purposes is legal. If I buy an MP3 player, and transfer some of my favourite tracks from original CD's in my collection to my MP3 player, I am breaking copyright law. If I intentionally press the record button on my VCR while a copyrighted TV show is airing, without permission from a copyright holder - I am breaking the law. Now I know in the US that has been tried and ruled as "acceptable use", however it's never been tried in Australia.
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They introduced that tax on certain CD-R's in Australia too - however that doesn't change the fact that it is still illegal to copy music, even if you own it, unless you have explicit permission from the copyright holder. In fact, AFAIK the ACCC was opposed to the tax, partly on the basis that it wrongfully implies that copying copyrighted material for back-up/archival purposes is legal. If I buy an MP3 player, and transfer some of my favourite tracks from original CD's in my collection to my MP3 player, I am breaking copyright law. If I intentionally press the record button on my VCR while a copyrighted TV show is airing, without permission from a copyright holder - I am breaking the law. Now I know in the US that has been tried and ruled as "acceptable use", however it's never been tried in Australia.



Very interesting. I haven't really looked into it that in-depth (i.e. legal documents), and I wouldn't really know where to begin with that. Obvously this isn't enforced to a certain degree, as we have a TON of portable media devices out there (again, "acceptable use" as you worded it). It would just be nice to have something in writing that I could show to a border customs agent on a power trip.
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"They introduced that tax on certain CD-R's in Australia too"

Same in the US. There are some CD recorders that will only accept the CD-R's earkmarked for music recordings as well. The tax is a kind of "People are going to make illegal copies, so they might as well pay some royalties up front" situation.

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<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
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"They introduced that tax on certain CD-R's in Australia too"

"People are going to make illegal copies, so they might as well pay some royalties up front" situation.


Don't you just love the "innocent until proven guilty" mentality here?
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Man - If we had the internet when VHS and cassettes were the shiznit!

This whole digital copyright thing bites.

“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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We'll just have to circumvent it.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>