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Batman Forever : The Tim Burton Cut Ver.3

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Ooooh holy cow guys time for another BF edit but this time i’m gonna finalize my Burton Cut!

So what will be the difference in this version & my last one?Well simple i was working on the BF audio by isolating the vocals from the music by using the expanded score & was surprised how well the vocals came out

Here’s a sample

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la2Kdao14jU

Plus the best part about the expanded score is that i will be able to leave more of BF’s sound effects intact as the score itself is clean & un-ripped from the DVD so i don’t have to worry about sound effects overpowering the music in the BG.

Alright time for idea & cutlist

-B89 sound effects & ambience will be added just in case

-Elfman’s score will be still in the edit like in my old version

-Every deleted scene will be added obviously

-Stickly’s death will remain

-Circus raid will remain

-Thinking about adding the safe sequence as it’s very easy to edit along with editing the guards annoyance plus attack of the batwing really suits the scene perfectly

-Cutting more of Two-face’s laughing as much as possible

-Lowering the staturation of the daytime scenes slightly & heavily at nighttime to match B89’s style

-Debating whether or not to add BF’s batmobile or 89’s in this version as there are number of fans who love the BF batmobile & just wanna make both sides happy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvXiClF3eE0

Along with the opening as well

https://youtu.be/XTzW93ZblVQ (89 style)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ8a6_DLmkU (BR style)

-Thinking about changing BF’s gotham city (nighttime) but need suggestion on what movies have city shots that are similar to burton’s gotham

So that’s pretty much it for right now but i’ll post again once i get into the edit more but feel free to comment on what you guys think & leave suggestion on what can make BF better or fit more place in the trilogy.

You either die a trilogy or live long enough to see yourself become batman & robin.

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Sounds like pretty good planning out you got there, Chris. What with the success of your UnOfficial Director’s Cut of the film, you’ll now have more deleted footage to add into the film. And if I may leave a few suggestions:

  1. For the 89-style opening sequence, have darkened clouds appear as a background over the “DIRECTED BY JOEL SCHUMACHER” credit, and have the credit fade out there.
  2. Remember in September last year with your Two-Face introduction concept video, the one that had the exterior shot at the end of the video of Gotham City with the Batsignal lit up in the sky? Use that.
  3. I think the idea to have city shots that look similar to Burton’s Gotham is a fantastic idea.
  4. I hope you can innovate with the new colour grade for this version of your most popular edit. 😃
  5. Hopefully your edit on the safe sequence will bring back memories of your old concept video on Vimeo.

Share your thoughts on my ideas for your edit and good luck! ^^

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I’ll throw in a vote for using the 89 Batmobile instead of the BF neon abomination if that’s actually feasible.

a trolling bantha

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ChainsawAsh said:

I’ll throw in a vote for using the 89 Batmobile instead of the BF neon abomination if that’s actually feasible.

Oh yeah it’s possible as i’ve done it before in my ver.2 cut.

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Well for the opening I prefer the BR style. It just looks visually better to me. I can’t definitively comment on which style Batmobile to go with though. As I haven’t seen the whole cut of version 1 or 2. But based on the sample cuts you had posted I like the 89 Batmobile more. I’ll watch version 2 of this cut soon and give a clear comment on it.

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Alright 2 votes the batmobile & 1v1 on the openings.
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Just need more votes & they’ll be in the final product.

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Was the version 2 cut of this ever uploaded?

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KRW said:

Was the version 2 cut of this ever uploaded?

Yes & if you want to see it please private message.

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Really loved the BR style twenty minutes clip, and the use of the 89 Batmobile. However, if I could make a suggestion, during the scene where Bruce goes to Wayne Enterprises because of the suicide, we see a shot of Nigma before we see the Security Log scene. The cut comes off as a bit weird, and if I could maybe make a suggestion, I would either have Nigma say something before we cut to the Security Log scene, or just not show him at all.

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Nerdman3000 said:

Really loved the BR style twenty minutes clip, and the use of the 89 Batmobile. However, if I could make a suggestion, during the scene where Bruce goes to Wayne Enterprises because of the suicide, we see a shot of Nigma before we see the Security Log scene. The cut comes off as a bit weird, and if I could maybe make a suggestion, I would either have Nigma say something before we cut to the Security Log scene, or just not show him at all.

Yeah i’ll probably just remove his scene completely & cut to the security log scene because even i found it jarring myself.
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Okay so it’s been a looooooooong time since i gave an update on my BF cut & well it’s not good.

For starters i went & tried to isolate some of the more explosive scenes in BF & see how the sound effects along with the vocals would come out after using the expanded soundtrack as the extraction & the results are pretty much the same as in my Ver.2 cut in fact they’re nearly identical even after applying the radio announcer effect.So i’m pretty much in a deep trench at the moment & contemplating whether or i should continue cause it’ll pretty much be my Ver.2 cut just with the bank scene included,Nygma during the stickly crime scene deleted,& just little snippets of the deleted scenes from my Un-Official director’s cut.

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ThatGuyWhoEdits said:

Okay so it’s been a looooooooong time since i gave an update on my BF cut & well it’s not good.

For starters i went & tried to isolate some of the more explosive scenes in BF & see how the sound effects along with the vocals would come out after using the expanded soundtrack as the extraction & the results are pretty much the same as in my Ver.2 cut in fact they’re nearly identical even after applying the radio announcer effect.So i’m pretty much in a deep trench at the moment & contemplating whether or i should continue cause it’ll pretty much be my Ver.2 cut just with the bank scene included,Nygma during the stickly crime scene deleted,& just little snippets of the deleted scenes from my Un-Official director’s cut.

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You’re adding a radio announcer effect? Wow!

My advice: try messing around with Adobe Audition for a bit until you’re satisfied with the result.

And I hope you’ll be able to innovate with the colour correction.

Good luck!

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This edit is AMAZING!
Every change you made works, and the Elfman soundtrack was sorely missed in the original.

However, I have had trouble ignoring the quality issues.
If the video were of higher quality, and you were given help by someone who knows how to add sound to footage, they could hypothetically isolate the dialogue and just replace the audio effects. There seems to be a community of people who like “Re-Sounding” film scenes, that could be done to a whole movie, hypothetically.
Make the cuts, outsource to be re sounded, then add soundtrack?

That is the only way you could improve this edit, no recommendations other than that.

PS I can no longer listen to descent into mystery without thinking of the red book scene!

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stickydixon said:

This edit is AMAZING!
Every change you made works, and the Elfman soundtrack was sorely missed in the original.

However, I have had trouble ignoring the quality issues.
If the video were of higher quality, and you were given help by someone who knows how to add sound to footage, they could hypothetically isolate the dialogue and just replace the audio effects. There seems to be a community of people who like “Re-Sounding” film scenes, that could be done to a whole movie, hypothetically.
Make the cuts, outsource to be re sounded, then add soundtrack?

That is the only way you could improve this edit, no recommendations other than that.

PS I can no longer listen to descent into mystery without thinking of the red book scene!

Wow i’m still getting feedback for this edit? XD

Well thanks for the feedback & the “hypothetical” advice.

& i assume that’s a good thing about the descent into mystery right?

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Ah, yes, the descent into mystery thing is good. Honestly it - I think - fits the deleted scene even better than the scene it was composed for.

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stickydixon said:

Ah, yes, the descent into mystery thing is good. Honestly it - I think - fits the deleted scene even better than the scene it was composed for.

Sweet.

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About time I come back to this edit. I have something to say…

Now that I think it over, Ver. 1 of this edit seems, how you say, “Lighter and Softer”, in comparison to Ver. 2. Why do I say this?

Well, I listened to Ver. 2 more closely with my headphones a couple days ago, and the choices of Danny Elfman’s score in this case make the film sound much creepier than the actual film itself.

Now I’m not saying this is a disadvantage — because it’s totally not!

The music makes the film more enjoyable and reminicent to the Burton films, particularly to those who utterly despised the film or deemed it merely ‘unwatchable’ with most of Elliot Goldenthal’s score and the acting performances of the villains. Plus, the added creepiness should please fans of Batman Returns and the deleted footage works well in fixing some of the issues the film ended up with.

Overall, I love The Tim Burton Cut as much as others do. It works well in trimming the campy overtones and making the film seem darker and more to the point.

ThatGuyWhoEdits, don’t give up on Ver. 3! I’ve been working on my own cutlist for my edit of the film, and I think you’ll be in for a pleasant surprise once you see it!

Here’s something to get hyped for in the meantime: for the Two-Face introduction at The Second Bank of Gotham, I will be removing the lines “LUCK! Blind, stupid, simple, doo-dah, clueless LUCK!”, “…for YOU!” and “Or, in your case, beer and pizza!” to make the character seem less of a laughing goofball and more of a sinister foe. Lucas Caprucho’s comment on the “BFTTBC : Two-Face Revisited” concept video inspired me for this decision, and TGWE, may I suggest you do something similar! ^^

Plus, I’m thinking of adding a blood effect for when characters are gunned down. A certain Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince edit has achieved this challenge, and I believe I can do the same for BF.

And finally, I’ll leave TGWE with a suggestion: if you want, you can rename Ver. 3 of BFTTBC into “Batman Forever: The Tim Burton Cut - Revisited”. I think it’s a cool name for you to use. 😃

Wish me luck, everyone! And TGWE…

…stay gold. 😉

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Where can I get this edit??

“You can’t polish a turd. But you can shape it to look like candy.”

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Go to his YouTube channel, then to the discussions section, then sort by newest first, you’ll see a number of edits.

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Mattdg63 said:

When can expect the release?

It’s been out for a while, check his YouTube channel, go to the discussion section then sort by newest first, you’ll find a mega link to it, I believe

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Okay so i been really inactive since my last post & that’s partly because i just finished my donner cut of superman 2 which will get an release soon but as for the batman cut it’s going great as i just finished editing the new score & now currently working on the vocal tracks as this is the most gurling & frustrating part of this cut but thankfully i found a neat alternate method in removing the background music abit better & hopefully i’ll have this cut done in october as that’s the release date i wanna aim for this badboy but until then keep an eye on my youtube channel for clips from my cut.

You either die a trilogy or live long enough to see yourself become batman & robin.

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ThatGuyWhoEdits said:

Okay so i been really inactive since my last post & that’s partly because i just finished my donner cut of superman 2 which will get an release soon but as for the batman cut it’s going great as i just finished editing the new score & now currently working on the vocal tracks as this is the most gurling & frustrating part of this cut but thankfully i found a neat alternate method in removing the background music abit better & hopefully i’ll have this cut done in october as that’s the release date i wanna aim for this badboy but until then keep an eye on my youtube channel for clips from my cut.

Glad there’s finally an update on Ver. 3! Can’t wait to see it; hoping for some preview clips!