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Originally posted by: yanksno1
I've never liked having different actors playing the roles that somone else has played in a series ** cough cough Hannibal **.


*cough* the leading role in Batman Forever *cough* the leading role in Batman & Robin *cough, cough*
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Best thing about Batman Forever was that U2 did the theme song. Ironically, ten or so years later, The Edge of U2 did the theme song for the new Batman cartoon.

As for Batman...there is only one REAL Batman, and that's from the Animated Series.
Which is the more foolish, the fool (the OT) or the fool who follows (the PT)?

"Stay back, or Mr...Fett gets it!"
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After watching the first DVD Set of the Animated Series the last week, I wholeheartedly agree with you.

The same is true for the Joker, the only true Joker is the one from the AS. Marky-Mark has no equal.
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Anyone remember Mark from the Flash show? LoL.
Which is the more foolish, the fool (the OT) or the fool who follows (the PT)?

"Stay back, or Mr...Fett gets it!"
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I've heard about it, but I've never seen it.

Is there a b**tleg floating around the net somewhere?
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It was printed on VHS, I rented it years ago.
Which is the more foolish, the fool (the OT) or the fool who follows (the PT)?

"Stay back, or Mr...Fett gets it!"
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Originally posted by: yanksno1
I've never liked having different actors playing the roles that somone else has played in a series ** cough cough Hannibal **.


*cough* the leading role in Batman Forever *cough* the leading role in Batman & Robin *cough, cough*

Now I didn't want to make it too obvious.
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Well, what can I say, that was one hell of a marketing plan by DC, let's kill Superman, overpublicize it, and then get him back as if nothing has happened.

You don't even know half the story.


mind telling us? I for one, would be interested to hear.
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Originally posted by: yanksno1
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Well, what can I say, that was one hell of a marketing plan by DC, let's kill Superman, overpublicize it, and then get him back as if nothing has happened.

You don't even know half the story.


mind telling us? I for one, would be interested to hear.

Hopefully ADigitalMan can go more in depth to this (because it really is an interesting read), but basically I believe this film was 1st greenlighted back in 1996 and has been trying to be made ever since. It seems every year a new script would turn up and a new director in the chair. They've gone from nearly everybody to try to play the role of Superman from Nic Cage to Josh Harrnet. Nobody wanted the role and it seemed this film was doomed from the start. That's where the Superman vs. Batman talks 1st came out before Peterson left the project. Then somehow (I still have no idea how they got so lucky) made a stroke of genious in getting Brian Singer to do the film. Suddenly, he found his Superman/Clark Kent and the supporting rolls all filled up quickly by quality actors (that nobody wanted to play before Singer came aboard).
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I assume ricarleite is referring to the Death of Superman comics, as opposed to the movie that was going to be based on it. I know little about the comics and more about the movie.

The movie was penned by Kevin Smith and the script can be found online via a Google search pretty quickly. I've read it, and it didn't totally float my boat. Braniac reminded me too much of the little alien inside the old man's head in Men In Black. Pardon the pun, but it seemed too comical.

Anyway, Tim Burton was attached to direct. Then, if memory serves me correctly, he had the premise re-written by Andrew Kevin Walker and Kevin Smith's script was chucked. Then, to everybody's horror, Nicholas Cage was signed to play the part for $17 million in a pay-or-play deal. The budget came in at $140 million and Warner shut down production before it started. Burton went on to do Sleepy Hollow from there, but was publicly very upset about this. I think Cage, in a moment of true magnanimity, decided not to make Warner's pay him the $17 million they were on the hook for, realizing that it would buy him some really good Karma in Hollywood (which, frankly, it did).

The rest of the world sighed in relief. Aside from old issues of Entertainment Weekly that attest to this part of the soap opera, Patton Oswalt has a stand up routine in which he talks about Nicholas Cage as Superman. He embellishes by having Nick Nolte join as Batman. If you've never heard this, it's hysterical. Nolte as Han Solo too.


But I digress. This early chapter in the "Let's make another Superman Movie" soap opera was followed by the McG/Ratner/Bay/McG debacle.

There is a wonderful fest of production ideas from Jon Peters, who wanted to have Superman have a robot sidekick, get his powers from the suit, and fighting giant polar bears and robot spiders in the Arctic. This is the best development in the screwed-up era of this film.

Here are some links to amuse you all:
http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?t=724
http://williamgibsonboard.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/2866012481/m/5311047921
http://www.thenakedcritic.com/20040905paparazzi.htm
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/movies/movies.php?topic=regarding-jon-peters
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Yes I was refering to the comics.

Was Kevin Smith who penned that script which featured a non-flying Superman with no cape, who fought against giant spiders?
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I don't think that was actually in his script, but that was stuff Jon Peters was trying to get him to do.

Jon Peters. Producer/Hairdresser. That tells you everything.
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Ah yes, now I remember. That's the guy who didn't know how to read and asked Kevin Smith to write the worse screenplay ever made...
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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
OKAY, I WENT TO SEE BATMAN BEGINS YESTERDAY. I WAS PRETTY BLOWN AWAY AT HOW GOOD IT WAS. WAS IT BETTER THAN ROTS ??? NO, I FELL THAT ROTS WAS STILL FAR BETTER.

TURN OFF CAPS . I was thinking about that ealier and still not quite sure what to think. My heart says Sith (as I'm a Star Wars fan 1st), but my mind says Batman. It was just that great, IMO.
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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
OKAY, I WENT TO SEE BATMAN BEGINS YESTERDAY. I WAS PRETTY BLOWN AWAY AT HOW GOOD IT WAS. WAS IT BETTER THAN ROTS ??? NO, I FELL THAT ROTS WAS STILL FAR BETTER.

TURN OFF CAPS . I was thinking about that ealier and still not quite sure what to think. My heart says Sith (as I'm a Star Wars fan 1st), but my mind says Batman. It was just that great, IMO.


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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
OKAY, I WENT TO SEE BATMAN BEGINS YESTERDAY. I WAS PRETTY BLOWN AWAY AT HOW GOOD IT WAS. WAS IT BETTER THAN ROTS ??? NO, I FELL THAT ROTS WAS STILL FAR BETTER.

TURN OFF CAPS . I was thinking about that ealier and still not quite sure what to think. My heart says Sith (as I'm a Star Wars fan 1st), but my mind says Batman. It was just that great, IMO.


OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE RELATIVELY NEW TO THE BOARDS, SO I WELCOME YOU HERE. HOWEVER, I WILL NOT TURN OFF THE CAPS LOCK. IT'S PART OF MY SIGNATURE WHICH ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN ON HERE FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME KNOWS THAT I TYPE IN ALL CAPS. READ MY TITLE UNDER MY SCREEN NAME.

Not completely new to the boards, but new to the off topic section and just saw the conversation in the DVD thread. lol
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Why is it that I'm the only person on the planet Earth who didn't like Batman Begins?
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Why is it that I'm the only person on the planet Earth who didn't like Batman Begins?


don't feel too bad.
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Why is it that I'm the only person on the planet Earth who didn't like Batman Begins?


For, it is written, there shall come an Anti-Bat, and that Anti-Bat shall be named ricareite.

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Crisis On Ricarleite's Earth
Which is the more foolish, the fool (the OT) or the fool who follows (the PT)?

"Stay back, or Mr...Fett gets it!"
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Bizarro-Brasil!

"Me think Begins movie bad! Me thinks prequels to War Stars good!"

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LOL!

Hey! I didn't think the prequels were good!!
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering