Info: Back to the Future - without DNR & EE — Page 4

The Jonno's audio track does not fit the HDTV version, i had to make some cuts in lots of scenes. The film is not frame by frame the same.

I bet this HDTV version is sourced from the 2002 master because in the first Delorean scene, you can clearly see that the wheels on the Marty's skateboard and the fence in the background are pink instead of yellow.

Another interesting fact, this version is presented in 1.78:1 ratio instead of 1.85:1 so there's a little bit more of picture on the top and bottom.

@Jonno:  It's just the first few seconds of black that are missing.

If the WOWOW rip is still around color me interested.

Aren't there two BD releases of the trilogy? Are the 25th anniversary editions good transfers?

bkev said:

If the WOWOW rip is still around color me interested.

I'd be interested too, even though I have the BD set of the trilogy.

I'm pretty sure that these Japanese subtitles are not hard-coded.

If they are we'll have to find the "Canal+ Film HD" version.  

Speaking of which, i found more screenshots from this HDTV cap: http://www.sendspace.com/file/3rndcx

I figure if I can stand the subtitles on my Star Wars documentaries i can stand them on BTTF. Plus, on the Indiana Jones WOWOW broadcasts, the subtitles only popped up to translate things (ie English signs) every so often. Are you sure that's not what happens on that instead?

Ah. Yeah, I guess that was a silly assumption. I can live with subtitles if it's the best version we've got quality-wise.

What was the reason for the use of DVNR on the blu ray.  I mean if they restored the movies and the quality was there for all to see why ruin it by removing an integral part of the image and what the Cinematographer intended us to see?

The film prints i saw in theaters way back when were very fine grain anyway and not grain heavy except in the scenes where you had optical generations for the special effects.

There was zero need for Universal to DVNR a film that was not so old.  I mean 1985 with the first film was the oldest.

Earlier in this thread there was some discussion about the edited for TV versions of Back to the Future. well, my kids (age 6 & 8) want to watch the first one tonight, so I made some quick edits to the audio track based on what I found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2zLXaA1J_4

Marty's dialogue replacements sound like they could have been made by Mr J Fox himself so where possible I used the audio from the youtube clip, adjusting volume to match - well pretty closely. But the Doc's "When this baby hits 88 mph you're gonna see some serious STUFF" was so poorly dubbed that I chose to just turn the volume way down. It's far from perfect, but I think it will do.

If anyone else is interested they can download my edit. (369 MB)

Technical details: I started with the DTS-HD Audio track from the bluray, used EAC3To to convert it to .flac. I tried editing the 6 channel flac in Adobe Audition but couldn't hear any dialogue at all, just music and effects (any ideas?), The dialogue is there because when I converted it to Stereo I could hear it fine, so that is why this is a stereo track and not a 6 channel surround. I was very precise with my copying and pasting to ensure everything stayed in sync. I converted the final flac to a 448 kbps AC3.

My goal was only to cut out the swearing ("Dad, what's an asshole?") unlike ABC I didn't feel the need to edit out the Libyan terrorists, so the changes are pretty minor. Not seamless, but minor.

Changes:

00:21:07: ""When this baby hits 88 mph you're gonna see some serious ____"

00:22:24: "Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ, Doc, you disintegrated Einstein!" =>

"Geez Louise! Geez Louise, Doc, you ..."

00:29:00: "Holy Shit!"=> "Holy Jeez!"

00:31:08: "Holy Shit!" => "Holy!" (the shit replaced with music and effects from the 6 channel no dialog version I somehow created)

ABC left the "Let's see if these bastards can do 90" in so I did too...

01:07:29: "AAAAHHHHH!" instead of "SHIIIIIIIIITTTTTTT!" as Biff crashes into the Manure.

01:14:04: "yes, God dammit George, swear" => "yes, dammit George, swear"

01:51:17: "What do we become Jerks or something?" (taken from the dubbed for TV version of Back to the Future 2, since it was less clumsy than the "What do we become, like Jerks, or something?" in the dub of part 1.

And that's all. I ripped the bluray to an 9 GB MKV then I used MKV Merge to add this new track to the list. Since all I did was overwrite a few extremely short sections of audio it all syncs perfectly.

If anyone has a better version, please let me know!

EDIT:

I went back and removed the 3 'son-of-a-bitch' (now "son of a ____"), the 5 'bastard's and a couple (but not all) of the 'damn's for good measure. I also made similar edits for Back to the Future 2 and Back to the Future 3.

All 2.0 stereo AC3 448 kb/s.

I Just figured out why I couldn't hear the voices in the 6 channel version: the voices were in the center channel and if I go (in adobe audition) to Edit > Preferences > Audio Channel Mapping I can see that the Left and Right Channels are mapped to my speakers, but the center channel, LFE, LS, RS, et. al. are not mapped at all. Mapping the center channel to my left speaker allows me to hear the voices. So perhaps I shall revisit this project again one day and fix it in the 5.1 mix.

Did Eac3To get the channels right when it converted from the DTS-HD? Shouldn't the main sound be in the L & R channels, not the center channel? Is there a command line option that would correct this (if indeed it is incorrect)?

WOWOW doesn't seem to replay stuff much.  We just capped the Holic movie, which hasn't been aired on WOWOW in 6-7 years, from WOWOW Prime - and the only reason they even aired it was as a tie-in for a new TV series.

Awesome, Williarob!

I'm downloading now. Thanks!

EDIT: Did you edit out all the SOBs?

I did not edit out the SOBs, which I regretted when we watched it. I'll probably go back and do that. I might try to remove the Bastards as well since I heard my eight year old say "come on you bastards" this morning while playing with stuffed animals (!). They want to watch the second one tonight which I haven't had a chance to edit, so it will be back to loud, carefully timed coughs!

drngr said:

Any interest in this still?

 

BTTF is DNR-free on Shaw on Demand and I can record it over HDMI, but I'm not sure if it will be better or worse than the H264 Russian capture. This is just MPEG-2 source.

 So, did you have the chance to capture it recently?