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Originally posted by: caligulathegod
Ugh, I've been working overtime 7 days a week and haven't been able to take the next step. Already worked 73 hours each of the last two weeks and one more week to go until vacation. I was hoping to get this done in time so I could work on Metropolis during vacation. It's coming though.


Cal, you're actually doing an ntsc conversion? My hero!!!

Jambe, add me to the list of those who like that cover. Reminds me of the ESB atari 2600 game cover art.
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I probably mentioned this here a while back, but I actually already DID an NTSC version about six-seven months ago (came out nice, too), just without the little extra clips of 'lost' soundtracks synched to picture. I'm happy to share it--I'm not hoarding it--but I really, really don't have any free time to burn lots of discs for people, nor am I willing to host a torrent of it. If someone wants it--and is willing to distribute it to interested parties in whatever way they see fit (disc, torrent, carrier pigeon, etc)--then I'm happy to burn one and mail it to him/her.
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Yeah, mine will be done this week. Guarantee. It will be the entire DVD, easter egg, music recreations included. I was going to send it to Jambe first, though. I have my kid this weekend, so it will have to wait until Monday.
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Originally posted by: moseisleym
I probably mentioned this here a while back, but I actually already DID an NTSC version about six-seven months ago (came out nice, too), just without the little extra clips of 'lost' soundtracks synched to picture. I'm happy to share it--I'm not hoarding it--but I really, really don't have any free time to burn lots of discs for people, nor am I willing to host a torrent of it. If someone wants it--and is willing to distribute it to interested parties in whatever way they see fit (disc, torrent, carrier pigeon, etc)--then I'm happy to burn one and mail it to him/her.
Mos


did you convert the audio speed as well?

"The Empire can't stop us now..now its our turn" -Luke-

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OK, I am rendering my first test disc now. Here's hoping it turns out right.
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I would love to have a copy of this when it's finnished. I read up on this whole thread and I'm glad to know that you have made the effort to convert the PAL to NTSC. Will this conversion anamorphic? Also are you going to torrent this or are you just mailing it out?

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It is anamorphic. It is a complete recreation of Jambe's original DVD, but in NTSC. Haven't considered distribution yet. We'll figure something out.
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Ugh, one of the titles is a fatal file. It stops the render flat. I'll have to scrub through and figure what's wrong. It was looking so good, too. Oh well, back to work.
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I know the feeling. I've been rending v.0.5 of 'RTJ' all day and the last AC3 encode just will not work! Grr.

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Anyone know who's list this is? I tried contacting him but got a bounce back.

Here

He has a copy of something I searched high and low for, 'The Risk Business'. It's a BBC doco that visits the ESB set and has some great shots in it. I would still love to get a copy somehow. Can any of our German friends here translate anything that might be of use to finding this person?

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EDITED LINK. Thanks caligulathegod

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Looks like the chap's name is Marco Frömter but that's all I can tell you.

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Originally posted by: caligulathegod
It is anamorphic. It is a complete recreation of Jambe's original DVD, but in NTSC. Haven't considered distribution yet. We'll figure something out.


Definitely interested in this.
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As I've mentioned before I'd also love an NTSC copy. I'll keep an eye out.
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Cool. Once I finish, I'm sending it to Jambe, then sending it to DFnyc.

Well, I technically did finish this, but something isn't happy when I render (same problem as the other day, haven't dealt with it yet. Christmas-ugh). The preview looks and acts just like Jambe's DVD. I've made several simpler DVDs using Encore and was pleasantly suprised how well it handles a relatively more complex DVD like BE with its menu transitions. I'm going to take a look at how I've encoded the file that's messing up my render. I took a break from it and prepped my Metropolis Moroder project. A few of the things I learned in converting my source PAL Metropolis from 25fps to 24fps has given me an idea on how to do the feature on Building Empire. I'm going to experiment with actually adjusting the sound. Hopefully it will work.
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Yeah methinks this must not be easy to have to sync it up to the PAL version. Even though I can't stand Pal speed-up, this would be too much work for me to even invest my time in. Good for you!
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Came across a forum that has links to rapidshare upload to 'Building Empire' today.

If the mods are happy, I will post the link here.

JD

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OMG, what a pain. In between Holiday stuff, I've spent the week trying to convert the main movie (I'm leaving the rest alone) of Building Empire from 25fps to 24fps, then to 29.97fps. I'm just not up to learning Avisynth yet. Perhaps for my Moroder Metropolis project, but I wanted something reliable that doesn't lose any quality (other than the reduction from PAL to NTSC resolution). I think I finally got it. My original version converts from PAL to NTSC in a way that looks very smooth but doesn't alter the sound synch or pitch. Any other style I've used, including the DGPulldown technique makes it look jerky, which I didn't want. I wanted to truly convert from 25fps to 24fps, then back to an interlaced NTSC format and correct the sound. I converted the original PAL VOBs to a single MPG2 and demuxed the audio to a wav, then I used VirtualDub to convert the mpg to avi with HuffYUV lossless codec. This knocked it up to 80GB! I then imported this into Premiere. I then set it to interpret the footage as 23.976fps. The wav was converted to correct sound using Besweet, which turned out pretty good. The vast majority now is corrected of PAL speedup. The feature is now 2:16 rather than 2:11. An unforeseen issue here is that some of the overlaying commentary/interviews were not in PAL speedup, so the occasional voice sounds 4% slowed down. It's a compromise, but for those of us that have seen this movie so many times that we know the pitch and cadence, it seems much better at the cost of a couple voiceovers.

Well, I just couldn't get Premiere to process it right as it insisted upon going from 25fps to 29.97fps. I ended up using VirtualDub again and found a technique to reinterpret the footage from 25fps to 23.976fps and used my preconverted wav. Now I have a second 80GB file. It turned out pretty good, but one side effect was that there's a very quick text crawl in one shot (telling us which actors also appeared in Superman movies) that when it was deinterlaced the first time into the avi got blurred (doubled). I was able to recreate this text crawl with Premiere, but I'm having trouble using Premiere to convert this back to mpg. For some reason, I can't get the Procoder plugin to work right. Right now, I'm using Procoder standalone to convert the avi to mpg2, just to see how it looks. Premiere doesn't reencode back to HuffYUV. I'll probably have to use the Microsoft DV AVI uncompressed codec, but I really don't have another 80GB to spare on my hard drives. I've already used up space with my Moroder project. I've spent the last few days burning DVDs to clear space. I like how Procoder is converting the avi, but I want the corrected text version. I'm going to attempt to even correct the Rouge/Rouge error if I can. Maybe.

Once I get all this sorted, I have to figure out why my DVD authoring is bogging down. It's coming. I just wanted to give an update.
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Dude

Woah.

PAL to NTSC is MUCH much easier than that. I've done a ton of movies. Use TMPGenc. Don't go to AVI.

There's really no reason to do any of that.

Hell, you don't even have to convert the sound to a wav.

I could do the conversion of the main movie in one night if you want me to send it to you. 4gb. done. You take care of the menus.
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hahaha. Id be pulling my hair out of my head if someone just told me that after everything caligula went through

"The Empire can't stop us now..now its our turn" -Luke-

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Originally posted by: Jambe Davdar
Came across a forum that has links to rapidshare upload to 'Building Empire' today.

If the mods are happy, I will post the link here.

JD
I'm quite happy for you to mention the name of the forum where you found this, but I'd prefer not to see direct Rapidshare download links posted here.

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I tried TMPGenc, but there was some reason I wasn't happy with it. I've lost track of why. I think I was getting the stutter or it wasn't letting me go to a 24p format. I've converted several before, but never with trying to fix the speedup. My first version looked great. Tell you what, I'll PM you my address and you can send me a converted Mpg and I'll plug it rigth into my project. My menus are all done.