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Who left Adama the note?

Who put the note on Boomer's locker mirror?

Why didnt Baltar's Cylon detector find the final five?

Why did the finale suck so bad?

ChainsawAsh said:

1 - Probably Baltar, or the angel version of Six manifested in physical form like in "Six Degrees of Separation" and left it.  I'd say Baltar, though.

2 - I always took that as Boomer herself, at least her Cylon half.  For example, she could have been sleepwalking or something, and she subconsciously put it there.

3 - Clearly Baltar's Cylon detector was ALL about finding actual Cylons.  My understanding is that after Boomer's test, he modified it so everyone got "green" tests. 4 - It didn't! :-)

1- works for me

2- works for me

3- hmmm have to dig that episode out and see, good theory.

4- oh yes it did, if nothing else the Starbuck thing was beyond crap. Im gonna give it another view though.

Johnny Ringo said:

The ending with Starbuck wasn't satisfying at all. after spending so long with the character we deserved a bit more than that.

I think I'm a little less interested in checking out the caprica spinoff series after the final revelation...

 Yeah I am far less interested in Caprica now that I know how it all ends....

Btw how do you do the reply with quote from two different posters in the same post?

ChainsawAsh said:

1 - Probably Baltar, or the angel version of Six manifested in physical form like in "Six Degrees of Separation" and left it.  I'd say Baltar, though.

2 - I always took that as Boomer herself, at least her Cylon half.  For example, she could have been sleepwalking or something, and she subconsciously put it there.

3 - Clearly Baltar's Cylon detector was ALL about finding actual Cylons.  My understanding is that after Boomer's test, he modified it so everyone got "green" tests.

4 - It didn't! :-)

Yeah, I had always assumed Boomer wrote it herself, and was unaware of it, just as she was unaware of all the other stuff she did. For 3, I thought it was pretty clear that Baltar made the Cylon detector give everyone a clean bill after Boomer's test.

As for number 4, it is all a matter of opinion, not a matter of fact.

AxiaEuxine said:

Btw how do you do the reply with quote from two different posters in the same post?

What I do is open a new window, and click reply with quote and, then copy and paste it back into my reply window. Might be an easier way, but this is pretty simple.

I FEEL FINE WITH THE SHOW COMING TO AN END.

I enjoyed it but just need to get a few things straight...

The Six who Baltar has been seeing in his head from the start of the show and even had imaginery sex with quite a few times, is an angel?  And there's also an angel that looks like Baltar?

Baltar survived the destruction of Caprica... how?

The colonials are my ancestors?

Adama is going to sit on a hill till he dies?

Starbuck...?

YES, YES, YES, YES, AND DEAD.

Fair enough!

I'm still bloody lost as to what just went on for 4 years.

Thought this was a pretty good summary of all the loose ends and how well they were (or weren't) tied up:

http://brianford.newsvine.com/_news/2009/03/23/2585762-deus-ex-starbuck-the-battlestar-galactica-finale

I really liked that last paragraph about the consistency of the characters. I have always felt that exact same way. So many things twisted and turned to fit the moment. As a result, just about every character turns out to be some kind of extreme asshole or another somewhere along the line. One minor example is, Dwalla is totally into Billy, then she brushes him off for Lee, then he dies and she shrugs it off, almost like "Well, now that my ex-boyfriend is gone, I can go after this new guy guilt free", then they get married, and Lee cheats on her with Starbuck, then they break up, then they start to get back together and she splatters herself all over her locker.

All these sharp turns took place just to serve the episode in which they took place, almost as an after thought. Consistency was sorely lacking throughout.

ChainsawAsh said:

- The dying leader (I'm adding one here, yes), I think, was Galactica herself.  Just something I thought up the other day while thinking about it.

 

Yeah, I had the same thought.

The whole idea was that those bits of Earth culture were passed down from our Colonial and Cylon ancestors.

Obviously the 12 constellations were made up and named by people. Nature provided the stars, but it took human minds to see figures in them and build stories behind them.

The Bob Dylan song made no sense at all, they obviously just wanted to put that song in the show, but it is pretty contrived. The fact that the ancient gods came from stories past down by our distant Colonial ancestors worked well enough for me, and actually made more sense than anything else would have. But why would Bob Dylan have written a song in the 1960's identical to one written by some one else millions of years before?

Also, don't mix up your mythologies, Johnny. The "prophecies" and the gods all turned out to be total bunk. In the end it was the Cylon's one true God that was calling all the shots and pulling all the strings. So all of Roslin's stuff with the Priestess, the scriptures, and the gods is meaningless superstition in the over all story, none of that contributed to them finding earth. 

According to Ronald Moore in one of his podcasts, the original intention was that Sam wrote All Along the Watchtower and played it for Tori. Not clear on all the other details of how it lead them to the old Viper (I guess the official explanation is "God did it"), but that is why it lead them to Earth I instead of Earth II. 

If you think about it, it wouldn't make any sense for it to lead them to Earth II, because at this point it has nothing to do with Earth II, as Bob Dylan won't be born for a very long time after Galactica's chronology. It was a song from their past lives on Earth I.

I WATCHED IT, AND IT WAS GREAT.  I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CYLON CREATION, PRIOR TO WATCHING THIS, AS FAR AS CONTINUITY GOES, BUT EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE.  OH, AND  IT'S OFFICIALLY SET 58 YEARS BEFORE THE CYLON ATTACK ON THE COLONIES.