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BANNED BOND: The Criterion Collection on DVD — Page 11

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Dr. No is there as well.  Doesn't seem to be a commentary for the Fisher King anywhere though.

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Hey Fan Filtration!

I own the US Ultimate Edition DVD's of all 20 OO7 films and a few of them already on Blu-ray. Titles I own on Blu-ray disc (I still haven't gotten around to getting a player) are: Dr. No; From Russia with Love; THUNDERBALL; Live and Let Die.

I'm mostly interested in the commentaries, isolated scores/sound effects and other random extras from the Criterion LD's. There's the original monoaural audio tracks already on the US Ultimate Editions and Blu-rays. Following question is, does your preservation have the English mono tracks at a higher bitrate? I'm frankly uninterested in the dubbed ones since I'm into original intended audio tracks. My apologies if it seems hoity toity though!

To the person who was making covers based upon the theatrical posters, did you ever complete them? The one for Dr. No looked very appealing. Kudos for using the original font which was used in the menu FF!

Yes, I'm quite an avid OO7 fan. I've also been reading someone made a preservation of the ABC-TV re-edit of On Her Majesty's Secret Service and "EON-ed" Never Say Never Again. I'll be eventually purchasing NSNA on BD of course and course someone post a link towards the thread for this or both? I'll make a search also.

Thanks!

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Does anybody have this set of DVDs? I've had absolutely no luck tracking it down.

Currently looking for the following preservations: V8 A Final Attempt by Arnie.D, Pre-ANH Bootleg Telecine, Starkiller '77 bootleg, LD OT by Cowclops, LD OT by Dr. Gonzo, LD OT by Farsight, LD OT by ISOMIX, LD OT by Dark/Sega Take 1, TPM Theatrical by Adywan, OT - Deliberate Creative, OCPMovie's Classic Editions, Pan & Scan O-OT Project, LD OT by EditDroid, Lucasfilm Pwnage Editions, Negative1 CED Preservations, Starkiller CED Preservation, Rowman bonus discs, BLAK0004, BLAK0009, BLAK0010, BLAK0016, BLAK0017, BLAK0029, BLAK0040, BLAK0046, BLAK0047-0050. Also a good preservation of the 97 SEs.

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Ulysses1922 said:

Dr. No is there as well.  Doesn't seem to be a commentary for the Fisher King anywhere though.

 

 I got that set from someone on here a while back.  It was definitely archived.

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I think I need to get off my ass and make a torrent of just the audio tracks.

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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FanFiltration said:

I think I need to get off my ass and make a torrent of just the audio tracks.

 

Actually, you might not need to. Listentoamovie still has them all up, amazingly--and this is a site that deals with the studios in a major way, going so far as to sell the officially released DVDs, including the current editions of the Bond DVDs and Blu-Rays. So it kind of looks like we've got a pretty legitimate source for the audio. However, it's streaming-only, and I don't know jack about ripping off streams, so unless someone else does, I'll just use Audacity and go the long way.

Currently looking for the following preservations: V8 A Final Attempt by Arnie.D, Pre-ANH Bootleg Telecine, Starkiller '77 bootleg, LD OT by Cowclops, LD OT by Dr. Gonzo, LD OT by Farsight, LD OT by ISOMIX, LD OT by Dark/Sega Take 1, TPM Theatrical by Adywan, OT - Deliberate Creative, OCPMovie's Classic Editions, Pan & Scan O-OT Project, LD OT by EditDroid, Lucasfilm Pwnage Editions, Negative1 CED Preservations, Starkiller CED Preservation, Rowman bonus discs, BLAK0004, BLAK0009, BLAK0010, BLAK0016, BLAK0017, BLAK0029, BLAK0040, BLAK0046, BLAK0047-0050. Also a good preservation of the 97 SEs.

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Jono11 said:
FanFiltration said:

I think I need to get off my ass and make a torrent of just the audio tracks.

 

Actually, you might not need to. Listentoamovie still has them all up, amazingly--and this is a site that deals with the studios in a major way, going so far as to sell the officially released DVDs, including the current editions of the Bond DVDs and Blu-Rays. So it kind of looks like we've got a pretty legitimate source for the audio. However, it's streaming-only, and I don't know jack about ripping off streams, so unless someone else does, I'll just use Audacity and go the long way.

Don't forget there is also a Music/sound effects only audio track as well as the commentary.  The Criterion disks only had the Music/Effects Only track included on the "Dr. No" and "Gloldfinger" films, but when I put together the banned bond disks, I included the "From Russia with Love" Music/Effects track that was only included in MGM video "The Connery Collection Vol. One" Laserdisk set.

 

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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It would be cool if the entire collection was seeded.  Been looking for it the whole time.

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FanFiltration said:

I think I need to get off my ass and make a torrent of just the audio tracks.

 

Has any progress been made on this torrent?  Thanks in advance.

 

Mikepsyche

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MIKEPSYCHE said:
FanFiltration said:

I think I need to get off my ass and make a torrent of just the audio tracks.

 

Has any progress been made on this torrent?  Thanks in advance.

 

Mikepsyche

Just found torrents on web.  Thanks

 

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Was the video for this taken from the LD as well or from the remastered DVD?

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This is the criterion captured set, so of course the video comes from the recalled/banned out of print CAV editions.

The Lowry remaster did not even exist when ff did this set, only the non restored but correctly colored special editions.

The criterion release to me is the ultimate release, it is well worth the money owning the laserdiscs as they will never be issued on dvd or blu ray.  Not sure but as far as i know these are the only terrence young approved transfers. When UA/MGM decided to modern colorize the films under lowry not to the specs of the director or original cinematographers.   Maybe they will put version that looks like the films looked and sounded in theaters, but it is highly doubtful.  There is good reason why the first issued dvd's are getting collectors prices.

Never mind that many of the Lowry dvd's and blus are complete botch jobs up there with the 2004 star wars trilogy release.  They got a cleaner looking picture but the color timing is all wrong, or they got the aspect ratios wrong like on goldeneye.

Unless you are lucky enough and rich enough to own ib technicolor prints of the connery films you will never really be able to experience the films as they were intended to look.

The Lowry attempts are overly bright and have the colors saturation turned up, I know for instance License to Kill did not look lie that in theaters.  The first dvd release even with ts faded colors was a closer approximation.

What they should be aimng for on home video like blu ray is filmlike quality with the grain intact, the colors where they should be and so on.  The Lowry attempts make the films look like modern video shot movies.

When i bought the pal release of frwl and it had this ugly blue tint on the night scenes i wanted to throw the dvd in the trash.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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For those interested, who have access, all three movies were posted to newsgroups about a month ago.  They were posted in alt.binaries.dvd.criterion on August 1. I've watched the first two already, and both are great.

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Thanks for the tips.  Been looking for these since 2007.

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there are also healthy torrents where the demons roam.

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FanFiltration said:UPDATE NEWS!!!

BANNED BOND: The Criterion Collection "FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE" to be updated with improved image and audio transfer, and will now include bonus isolated score and effects track (taken from "The Connery Collection" laser set).

I'm curious if this was publicly released?

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Is that fixed disc, the first one did not have a menu. As for better audio and video i think he just did a second capture of the laserdisc, their would have been no point of going back and syncing the audio to the Lowry U.E. other than to make a custom dvd. 

If he wanted to do that he could just have uploaded the ac3 streams online for people to use, or pcm but i don't think the extra bitrate wold help anything as the audio on the criterion is mono anyway.  Has pops and crackles as all audio of that era taken from an old vaulted print master.

Never mind i'm thinking of dr.no,  then as far as i know ff did not do a v2 of frwl.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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I started a thread on the ajb007 forums about all the Ultimate Edition DVD problems. Most of the films just look overcleaned, but at least they seem like the films (unlike 04 SW). LALD looks like too much of the grain was removed. Goldeneye is cropped on all sides. OHMSS has had its opening completely recolored. AVTAK's opening is cropped. The big thing that bugs me is how the original soundtracks are missing on Thunderball, LALD, and TSWLM. I still feel that these new colors aren't as true as the old releases, but that may be because I grew up on the old tapes. My copies of OHMSS and LALD from the old special edition series seem to have much more life to them-although they are riddled with all the standard DVD issues.

Are the Criterion LDs really worth tracking down if you already have the commentaries?

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captainsolo said:

I started a thread on the ajb007 forums about all the Ultimate Edition DVD problems. Most of the films just look overcleaned, but at least they seem like the films (unlike 04 SW). LALD looks like too much of the grain was removed. Goldeneye is cropped on all sides. OHMSS has had its opening completely recolored. AVTAK's opening is cropped. The big thing that bugs me is how the original soundtracks are missing on Thunderball, LALD, and TSWLM. I still feel that these new colors aren't as true as the old releases, but that may be because I grew up on the old tapes. My copies of OHMSS and LALD from the old special edition series seem to have much more life to them-although they are riddled with all the standard DVD issues.

Are the Criterion LDs really worth tracking down if you already have the commentaries?

For me they are having a laserdisc player, and i prefer the CAV format as my player does not have the ability to stop on a scene freeze frame on a clv disc.

If you have a player that can do that, or already have the commentaries the CLV re-issues without the commentaries are cheaper.  Or you could get the few films released by mgm/ua in CAV, thx and those old letterbox special editions unless you have the special edition dvds.

The thing is the criterion is from an old vaulted print, or video master and does not have dvnr applied, whereas the thx laserdisc program often did.

Most Bond fans are going over to blu ray, unless some of the major issues are addressed in such releases that plagued the U.E. count me out.  Its really only the first four bond films really that benefited the most from the new Lowry transfers, the roger moore years are off and on in terms of consistent quality, but some may have to do with the film stock used and the age of the materials used to print the new negatives that lowry scanned.  Unless they really did transfer directly from the camera oneg as they claimed to have done.

Original negative can mean a lot of things like what is used to strike release prints.  They almost never do that directly off the raw film ran through the camera that was photographed.  They have a master that has all the edits that were done during the comform process, and all the opticals spliced in.

 

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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 Can somebody please send me the links of the criterion version of goldfinger in PM, I'm a sean connery era fan and i looked about this for months unsuccessfully....

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I was wondering if anyone could post screen caps for comparison - I have most of the blu-ray BOND releases and they all look pretty damn good.  Even so, it would be interesting to see what images from the Criterion LDs or the 1st release DVDs look like (color tone, cropping, etc) as compared to the newer releases.

         

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From what I have gathered the Blus have fixed the errors from the UE DVDs. LALD has it's proper grain structure and color restored (I hope!). The Blus look like the newly struck theatrical prints that I saw of Dr. No and Thunderball (Last year)

VADER!? WHERE THE HELL IS MY MOCHA LATTE? -Palpy on a very bad day.

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I'll vouch that From Russia with Love looks amazing on blu-ray, whether it's the originally intended colors or not. And Dr. No's DVD doesn't look too bad to me, either. Also, captainsolo, keep in mind that any new theatrical prints are likely derived from the Lowry restorations.

As for LALD, while I can't speak for the movie, these screenshots might. Note that the blu-ray shot is given mainly for color reference, as I doubt such a small picture could show the detail improvements.

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http://images.blu-ray.com/reviews/677_3.jpg

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http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/5879/liveandletdie23ab2.png

Very easy to say which one's better, no? If these pictures stretch the forum I'll edit them to links.

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The blu ray looks darker than the dvd and they are from the same master, very weird.  I will say the blu looks more film like, and the white color of roger moore's skin in this screen cap looks blown out.

About the wrong colors and blu tint in some of the films, Lowry also messed up the colors on the wrath of khan restoration.  The uniforms look orange instead of red.  Some scenes have an awful blu tint that was not their before.

Really a shame since the film in terms of clarity has never looked better, just like their work on star wars.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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skyjedi2005 said:

 Lowry also messed up the colors on the wrath of khan restoration.  The uniforms look orange instead of red.  Some scenes have an awful blu tint that was not their before.

May I ask, when you say Lowry's restoration, are you referring to the restoration that was done for the director's cut on DVD, or the restoration for the theatrical cut on blu-ray?  I would be really interested to know.