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Surprised nobody's really mentioned this. Seems the Chinese Government is reporting that it's mutating in humans now, but not to the point of allowing rapid transmission. Scary stuff, man.
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Well this is just wonderful.

The worst thing about this whole thing is that there is pretty much nothing that you can do but vaccinate and quarantine, and the former requires having sufficient vaccine. Like Threepio in episode III, I feel so helpless when it comes to this.

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It'll blow over just like SARS and monkeypox did. Fuhgedduhboudit.

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Let us hope it does not turn into the 1918 flu epidemic our scientics and doctors fear
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Maybe I'm just a perpetual skeptic, but I really this is just people overreacting AGAIN. Just like every year, people freak out when it's flu shot time. They say "OH MY GOD WE'RE HAVING A SHORTAGE!!", when really the place they were getting them from just ran out and haven't received their next shipment yet. Cool it, people.

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No, another SARS. Another monkeypox. You'll have forgotten about it by this time next year.

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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Maybe I'm just a perpetual skeptic, but I really this is just people overreacting AGAIN. Just like every year, people freak out when it's flu shot time. They say "OH MY GOD WE'RE HAVING A SHORTAGE!!", when really the place they were getting them from just ran out and haven't received their next shipment yet. Cool it, people.


The threat of this was big news here for a while because it showed up in Turkey, which is on the border of Europe. The story died shortly after. Move along.

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It's not even big news over here, sometimes I hear something about it. I'm sure that the whole thing will fade out in a few weeks, after the story is not commercial anymore. That's right boys and girls, the media gets MONEY from broadcasting news to you, so they'll always go for the most profitable one: the fear-inducing news that lasts for months, and you're gonna keep tunning in every single day.

If this thing gets so bizarrely out of control and mutates into humans (not in hundreds of years, but in days), and spread all over the world like a freaking bubonic plague, I say DON'T vaccinate, let it kill us all. We deserve it. Enough of the humand kind on this planet. Also, it'll be so puzzling for the aliens who come here in thousands of years from now, seeing all those buildings and cars, and human skeletons inside of hospitals...
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What will be more confusing for the aliens is the giant, super intelligent birds who have taken over the world, having suceeded in their dastardly plan to exterminate mankind using a deadly virus, unleashed on humans via kamikaze 'carrier' birds such as seagulls, pidgeons and turkeys.

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Slow news month. When there's no terrorism or hurricanes or tsunamis to create mass hysteria and ratings, they'll find anything to stir it up...
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Avian flu is overblown media bullshit, much along the lines of SARS and monkeypox, like Nanner said. It does indeed go back to the fact that it's a slow news month. On Nov 25 ("Black Friday"), there were three straight hours of news coverage of eager shoppers on CNN. Three hours on nothing but shopping. And this wasn't in the crazy early morning, either, this was from 9am-12pm. One doesn't really need any more proof than that to call it a slow news month.

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Originally posted by: ReverendBeastly
Avian flu is overblown media bullshit,


Thank you! Someone else who feels the same way I do. Thanks to Nanner as well. Didn't mean to leave you out of the thanks. It amazes me how much they exploit a story of disease in an area of the world where vaccinations and immunizations are few and far between.
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Can we all say, "One Flu Over the Cuckoo's Nest"?











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Ugh.
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You can't tell me you didn't smile for @ least a half a second.

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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
Can we all say, "One Flu Over the Cuckoo's Nest"?











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lol!
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
No, another SARS. Another monkeypox. You'll have forgotten about it by this time next year.


Wow, looks like I was about right on this one.

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Most the time people overreact, but thats a very good thing. Hopefully this will be about as serious as SARS was, which is that its serious but not that serious. Its mostly the elderly that are susesptible to this in any kind of life-threatening way.
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I believe the human form of the bird flu that goes from human to human is a realistic threat. It happened before, it will happen again. Question is, will we be ready.

Its mostly the elderly that are susesptible to this in any kind of life-threatening way.

That's not always the case. The one of 1918 was most dangerous for people in the range of 14-20 years.
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you know nanner is pretty accurate on this one. the big fear is that the virus will mutate into a human virus then away we go, cause no one will have any natural resistance to it. now the chances of it mutating are very small, and thats why nanner is right. literally what needs to happen is for two virus's to infect the same cell. one avian flu, the other some human airborn virus. so they infect the same cell at the same time. then by shear luck there RNA gets mixed up. and the part of the RNA in the human strain that involves infecting people gets mixed in with the avian flu genome. after all that happens, the few viruses that get this combination much survive to get into another cell(once again very hard, there is a reason why viruses have to make 10000 of themselves after each replication cycle.) once it infect the new cell it needs to successfully replicate itself, the new RNA combination might nto be complete and the virus could be a dud. and there you have it all the unlikely events that have to happen before we get the killer flu. and thats a VERY genral overview.
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
you know nanner is pretty accurate on this one. the big fear is that the virus will mutate into a human virus then away we go, cause no one will have any natural resistance to it. now the chances of it mutating are very small, and thats why nanner is right. literally what needs to happen is for two virus's to infect the same cell. one avian flu, the other some human airborn virus. so they infect the same cell at the same time. then by shear luck there RNA gets mixed up. and the part of the RNA in the human strain that involves infecting people gets mixed in with the avian flu genome. after all that happens, the few viruses that get this combination much survive to get into another cell(once again very hard, there is a reason why viruses have to make 10000 of themselves after each replication cycle.) once it infect the new cell it needs to successfully replicate itself, the new RNA combination might nto be complete and the virus could be a dud. and there you have it all the unlikely events that have to happen before we get the killer flu. and thats a VERY genral overview.


Ofcourse the chance this happens is very very small and probably no one would believe it could happen if it didn't happened before. But it already happened multiple times in the past. Also the human population in Asia has grown a lot since then. There's more livestock and the people practically live with the animals.
I'm not worried about it, but saying it won't happen again is like saying the Earth will never get hit by a big asteroid again.

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CONSPIRACY THEORIST MODE

Any one ever think about the possibility of these Asian flus that are always poping up could be created in a labratory? The is a massive over population problem there, enough to support regulations for the number of chilrden you can have and to "justify" infantacide. Typically it is the elderly who fall victim to these thing, as well as the weak. If you were to want to purge your nation of some excess baggage, this way gets rid of the old pensionists who, once dead, will no longer require pension checks. It also gets rid of the sickly types and some forms of handicaped people. With a good portion of the elderly and weak out of the way, you are left with the fitest of the nation, and a lot less wasted resources.

Just a thought. Not saying I believe this is what is happening. It is more of a "what if" sort of thing to think about. Worse things have happened in our history than this.

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It's relative easy to create the deadly strain of human avian flu. A group of scientist in the Netherlands (and probably other countries too) wanted to create it and use it to make a vaccin. But they didn't get permission. Would be a very good biological weapon.
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