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Athens Greece 2004 Summer Olympic Games

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Since the games open on Friday, I thought we could use a thread on it. This Olympics should be special considering they are back in greece where the Olympics originated. Lets just hope there is no terrorist attack at the games. Do you care about the games or not at all? What do the Olympics mean to you? What are your favorite Summer Olympic sports? What are your least favorite? What sports that aren't included do you think should be. What sports that are included do you think shouldn't be? Post your thoughts here.
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SUMO WRESTLING!!!!!!

I don't think there will be a terrorist attack at the Olympics any worse than that pipe bomb in Atlanta several years ago. Nothing huge, honestly. Al Q'aida's too busy planning for the presidential election. Yikes.
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I like the water sports the most.

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Olympians Strike Pinup Pose and Avoid Causing a Fuss
By JOE DRAPE, The New York Times

ATHENS (Aug. 11) - The American high jumper Amy Acuff has scored a rare double, even before the Games begin.
She is on the cover of Playboy magazine, which hits the newsstands on Friday, coinciding with the opening ceremony, and she shares the cover of September's FHM Magazine with her fellow United States Olympians Amanda Beard, Haley Cope and Logan Tom.

Acuff looks downright demure smiling from the cover of Playboy in her practice uniform with her track spikes at her side. FHM, a milder version of Playboy that appeals to a younger demographic, has the women posing in white bikinis to draw readers inside to its "Sexy Olympic Special!"

The Olympians' attitudes about their status as pinups reveal a striking generation gap among female athletes. Unlike the national dialogue about empowerment and body image that followed Brandi Chastain's exuberant removal of her jersey in 1999 after she scored the decisive penalty kick against China to give the United States a victory in the Women's World Cup final, there has been little negative reaction to the Olympians' ubiquitous appearance in magazines. Even the United States Olympic Committee does not seem to object to the exposure.

Female athletes appear to be more comfortable combining sex appeal with athleticism at the peak of their careers. Katarina Witt, a gold medalist in figure skating in the 1984 and 1988 Winter Games, caused an uproar by posing nude in Playboy in 1998, long after she was finished as a world-class skater. Now, female athletes are showing off their bodies in nonsports magazines and making no apologies for it.

That is unlike four years ago, before the Sydney Games, when the swimmer Jenny Thompson's photograph appeared in Sports Illustrated - with only her fists covering her breasts - and generated controversy.

At the time, Donna Lopiano, the executive director of the Women's Sports Foundation, told reporters, "Any exposure in a sports magazine that minimizes athletic achievement and skill and emphasizes the female athlete as a sex object is insulting and degrading."

Now, most of the athlete-models say they have enjoyed the exposure and look at it as a means to an end. In the 1996 Atlanta Games, at age 14, Beard gave the world an iconic image when she toted a teddy bear to the starting blocks for the final of the breaststroke. More recently, however, she has posed for magazines like FHM and Maxim in swimsuits that will probably not help her break the world record she holds in the 200-meter breaststroke.

"I'm not quite sure what other people think about the recent magazines, but, for me, personally, I have fun doing it and I enjoy it," said Beard, who already owns an Olympic gold medal, two silvers and a bronze. "It's a chance for me to branch out of swimming and kind of experience some other things like modeling and stuff."

Dominique Dawes, a three-time Olympic gymnast and now the president-elect of the Women's Sports Foundation, said Acuff, Cope, Beard or any other female athlete had earned the right to choose where and how they appeared in the media. She also said the magazine portrayals should not diminish the strides women have made in Olympic sports, but rather celebrate their independence.

"It's a personal choice, and if an athlete wants to portray herself in a certain light, it's up to her," said Dawes, 27, who was a member of the 1996 gymnastics team that won the gold medal. "It's not anything I would do, but sports and sex has always sold. I think women have earned the right to make those kinds of decisions."

Acuff, 29, is matter of fact about her decision to appear nude in two pages of Playboy's 12-page pictorial. Eight Olympic hopefuls posed in the issue, and five are here competing, including Cope, the American backstroke specialist. Unlike when she was on the FHM cover, however, Cope is identified by her married name, Haley Clark. The other Olympians are a pole-vaulter from Hungary, a sprinter from Ukraine and a long and triple jumper from Latvia.

During a telephone interview Wednesday from Crete, Acuff said she agreed to appear in the magazine as long as the photographs were tastefully executed and did not require her to show full frontal nudity. Acuff said she accepted the assignment for the most basic of reasons. "I did it for the financial aspect," she said. "It's really hard to make that kind of money in the real world."

She would not reveal how much she was paid, but beginning Friday she will write about her Olympic experiences in a diary on playboy.com.

Cope, 25, was not available for comment here yesterday, but acknowledged to Playboy that her friends call her the Olympic nudist.

"People aren't comfortable with themselves," she is quoted as saying in comments that accompany her two photographs. "I'm a freak. I vote Republican, I worship Martha Stewart and I don't mind being naked."

The United States Olympic Committee spokesman Darryl Seibel said Wednesday that he met with his staff members a year ago, and they decided against pursuing placements in magazines like FHM and Playboy.

Still, a file in the media center here available as a research tool contained many of those same spreads, and the Olympic committee has aggressively marketed the women to consumer-oriented publications and broadcast outlets, even helping the American softball pitcher Jennie Finch land a spot in People as one of the 50 most beautiful people.

"We think it's important to reach out to large audiences," Seibel said. "We also think it's important that it be done in a tasteful way. Those placements' - in Playboy and FHM - "were made by the athletes and their representatives, and neither we nor their national governing bodies had anything to do with it."

Finch, along with the swimmer Michael Phelps, is expected to be one of the Athens Games' breakout stars. Like Phelps, she has landed lucrative endorsements, but she also understands that the attention she has attracted for her looks may have eclipsed her athletic achievements. In a news conference here Tuesday, one of the first questions she was asked was about how it felt to be called one of the hottest sports figures among Internet users.

"I'm here as an Olympic athlete," Finch said. "I'm here to win a gold medal and to compete on the mound. At times it can get a little frustrating. You want to be known for what you do on the field."

Her teammate Lisa Fernandez, who has won two gold medals, appreciates the interest Finch has generated. She also understands there is a price to pay when combating a double standard.

"I hope that at some point society is going to take appreciation of what we have," Fernandez said. "You don't look at the male counterpart and see that they put some great-looking guy on the cover of Sports Illustrated simply because of how he looks."
08-11-04
Copyright © 2004 The New York Times Company.

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I'm looking forward to the games this year. I doubt there will be any sort of attack on the games, nor any attack in the near future. Everyone's making a huge fuss over what will probably be nothing. Greece has a very skilled security team set up, not to mention supplemental forces. This will not be Munich again.

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I was on my way to the airport when the opening cerimony was on it's way, but my brother taped it, and I've just watched it... it was kinda neat, althought it could be better. Those statues opening in the air were great. And it was good to see Bjork again - she's so cute =P, and she sings in such a beautiful way... And for some creepy reason they forgot about Vangelis, he would probably compose a good song for this olympics... maybe he died already, I don't know...
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So far I'm impressed with it. Almost time for the Parade of Nations...

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sports that shouldnt be (at all): weightlifting, synchronized swimming for one, equestrian crap.

sports that arent, but should be: squash
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Sports that should be included:

Female wet t-shirt contest
Spelling contest
Sac race
Eating sausages
Drinking beer
Russian Roulette (the referee would be Cristopher Walken)
Wrestling (the TV one)
Dancing contest
Monopoly
Chess with real people
Arm wrestling (Stallone would be the referee)
Reality Show contest (they're all in a house, the last one to get out is the winner of a gold meddal)
Star Wars knoledge contest
Lightsaber duel
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Sports that should be included:

Spelling contest - Shimraa and Jimbo are disqualified before it even begins
Drinking beer - Motti wins, hands down
Dancing contest - I lose for injuring too many people
Chess with real people - Ron Weasley wins
Arm wrestling - the kid who played Stallone's son in Over the Top wins just for having the gaul to show his face in public again
Star Wars knowledge contest - we all team up and use Gundark as our official team rep and we win, beating LFL decisively
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I might represent my country on Russian Roulette at the next olympic games, I mean, I'm so good at it! So far I've never lost to anyone.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Yes, broken glass bottle fight would be great. Specially if the athletes were drunk.

Or knife fighting... "You call that a knife? THIS is a knife!"
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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or glass dust snorting, wihle youre at it you freaky eel boys.
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It's the olympic games, not "Jackass The Movie".

Well, it's ending tomorrow. No bombing and no terrorist plots. No athlete making a fool out of himself in front of the cameras. No big surprises. Good olympic games, thought. See you in Beijing 2008. And then in South Pole 2012. And then in Mars 2016.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
It's the olympic games, not "Jackass The Movie".

Well, it's ending tomorrow. No bombing and no terrorist plots. No athlete making a fool out of himself in front of the cameras. No big surprises. Good olympic games, thought. See you in Beijing 2008. And then in South Pole 2012. And then in Mars 2016.
No athletes for sure, but a couple coaches, yes.
Anyone see what happened after the USA/Spanish Men's Basketball Quarterfinals? I didn't see it, but I sure heard about it.
The Spanish coach was apparently very mad about the officiating and a last- second time out by the US team (even though they were leading).

I'd also like to congratulate Larry Brown for screwing up for the USA basketball team.
Why did he only play LeBron James for 2 minutes in that game against Argentina??
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I've just watched the marathon for men, and a brazillian athlete was leading until a drunk irish priest (at least thats what the TV told) decided to be on TV jumped in front of him and holded him for nearly 20 seconds, making him lose time, his concentration, and a certain gold meddal. That concludes what was the most unlucky games for Brazil, everything went wrong for our athletes, and we concluded with a ridiculous 4-3-3. These athen olympics showed no sense of organization, there were organization problems during sailing, and that korean athlete who lost his gold meddal, and now this. Certanly the olympic games should only be played in north america, west europe and australia, as any other country lacks the compentence for it.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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He's an ex-pries from irland, the same guy who tried to stop the formula 1 race in england last year, and almost caused a tragedy. He is always trying to get into televised sports trying to ruin everything. He says that he had a vision that Jesus told him to anounce his second come, and he is trying to do so by stoping soccer games, formula 1 races and marathons (thats the second marathon he tries to stop, unfortunally the greek authorities were not competent enough to stop him. This time it was just an insane drunken irish evangelist, next time it could be some pro-terror nut with a bomb.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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well was he wearing the priest unifourm maybe just trust him priests
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Well... I don't know...

http://sports.yahoo.com/oly/track_field/photo?slug=olyrun80308291734.greece_olympics_marathon_olyrun803&prov=ap
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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I thought these games were supposed to be secure! How did that nut get anywhere near close to the runner? What if that had been a terrorist with a gun?
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That was not the only incident. One day before a canadian wearing tights and a tutu jumped into the swiming pool between the presentations and was arrested. There was really NO terrorist threats at ALL, if there was, Athens would be a radioactive crater by now.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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oh yeah forgot about that one. Well I'm just glad these are the worst things that happend. It could have been worse must worse. But I still would like to know how did the nuts get anywhere near close to the athletes? Again I ask what if they had been terrorists with guns?