Asokha Radical Redux Ideas thread

I agree, the biggest stuff to remove is mostly at the beginning. Anything around the map being in the possession of our heroes is just silly and bad and takes too long. Especially Ahsoka giving it to Sabine, Sabine leaving without telling Ahsoka for no reason, going to her house to work on it because she needs “space,” and it getting taken by droids who conveniently leave one of their number behind, then Sabine getting stabbed with a lightsaber to no effect. Baylan and Shin on the New Republic ship should be started in medias res with them already on the ship, because the explanation of how they got there is really dumb.

Virtually every shot and line of dialogue should have at least 1-5 seconds cut. Also consider cutting some of the pointless fight scenes like Ahsoka getting out on the ship.

Vladius said:

Baylan and Shin on the New Republic ship should be started in medias res with them already on the ship, because the explanation of how they got there is really dumb.

I showcased a cut like that over on Smudger’s edit. He ultimately chose to keep the opening as-is. I don’t think it’s perfect, but anything is better than leaving the stupidity of the captain’s plan in.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1G8OAwmEzlKftG-FEnWNMdF7ygFfFrmbs

I was also gonna work on trying to remove the entire Hera and New Republic subplot. I hate that the NR won’t do anything. Especially considering one of their ships was just attacked and a prisoner freed. Them not wanting to help Hera in her pursuit makes zero sense.

Instead I was gonna have Huyang alone be the one to find Ahsoka:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/104Fzlcjm73AtwlizctAk790DRjRovFgv

Unfortunately the amount of work just wasn’t worth it. It’s doable, but I’m just not invested enough in this show to want to do all the masking it was gonna take to remove Hera’s squad from Seatos entirely.

The show really needs to be condensed into a single movie. I don’t think there’s enough good content here to make two separate movies.

We will have to see how long and how much fluff these last two episodes have. Cause we really need them to be about 30 minutes of usable content to get it down to a reasonable single movie runtime.

What opening scene would you put in instead Peter Pan? If you move the attack on the cruiser scene, you’d need another scene that starts in space, so it can flow out of the opening crawl.

I can’t think of a scene off hand, but I’d love to see a mock up for that, cause I agree your solution would be the best.

Peter Pan said:

I used the arrival on Corellia, I can send you a link to the edit.

Yeah send it to me! And sorry didn’t intend to have those videos restricted. It should be fixed now.

I really wish Vimeo didn’t get so strict as of late, so much less cumbersome than Drive.

How about these links?

Attack on Cruiser:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gktSlWKezKU-XydWHUfd3IxMDnOnLqzM/view

Huyang Saves Ahsoka:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16i210vISm-52HAErEJ3kfUyQcrJi8GDH/view

Does Morgan Elsbeth get imprisoned by the New Republic during Mando S2? I’m pretty sure that just happens offscreen and all we see is Ahsoka asking about Thrawn, without seeing her answer either. Could we just say that she was always loose and Baylan and Shin are attacking the ship to steal the map?

Peter Pan said:

Someone in Smudger’s thread spawned the idea of removing episode 1 almost entirely and starting with the Corellia investigation instead.

Sadly, I had no time to spare at the time, but now I have thrown together a quick mock-up of that idea.

The general structure is this:
-slightly altered crawl, that explains the state of the galaxy and why Ahsoka and Hera are on Corellia
-opening on Corellia, intercut with the introduction of Sabine
-Hera reports to the NR
-new scene, featuring Sabine observing Purrgil traveling past Lothal (new call to action)
-Jailbreak, introduction of Baylen and Shin
-Sabine contacts Ahsoka
-opening of the map
-Ahsoka and Sabine meet

Apart from the structural change, I only boosted the colors (a lot).

If anyone is interested in giving feedback, just notify me. The edit is about 40 minutes long.

I like the ideas of moving the Corellia story first, makes more sense but how would you create Sabine observing the Pergils on Lothal?

Peter Pan said:

I used the shot of Baylan seeing a silhouette of a purrgil through the clouds, while on Seatos, applied some binocular filter, and tinted the footage to give the impression of infrared sight.

Here is the clip:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-aMXsVQGwn7XhvEnSnORrV7G83zxovq9/view?usp=share_link

Sadly the compression is killing the quality.

Genius that’s a really great idea, works well.

Peter Pan said:

How would you pull that off, and how would the structure benefit from that change?

I haven’t thought about it too much, but maybe show a shortened version of Ahsoka getting the map with no self-destructing droids, she takes it to the New Republic to entrust them with it, then they raid the ship and take it. There’s no footage of them taking it from there so it will have to be implied. I don’t know. But there is footage of Ahsoka having it on Home One I think.

I have an idea, I don’t know if it would work in practice. I think it would be interesting to start the story with some of the clone wars scenes shown in the series.

I say this because Ahsoka, in theory, starts in the series with a conflict, right? However, the public only discovers that she is conflicted in episode 5. Personally, I think that focusing on the character’s development is more interesting than the quest to prevent Thrawn from returning. This is Ahsoka’s series, after all. Showing her conflict right away would serve to introduce the character in a more appropriate way than fighting robots in a temple, serving to tell her personal journey since the beginning of the story.

That said, I think it would be interesting to show some of these scenes as a dream of Ahsoka, and show her waking up from this dream in that scene with Hyuang on the ship, and only after that begin the plot of Ezra/Thrawn’s search. Later on, when Baylan knocks her into the water, the focus would be on the world between worlds sequence, where she would get the motivation to move forward, leaving the conflict behind.