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Are you glad Lucas sold Lucasfilm to Disney or do you wish he hadn’t? — Page 3

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I can partially understand why he sold to Disney at the time, given their past record of making many great films in both animated and live action. However, I think he made the mother of all mistakes in picking Kathleen Kennedy as his successor. What she did to the sequels (“The Last Jedi” in particular) is 100% inexcusable, and the clips I’ve seen online from “The Rise of Skywalker” weren’t much better. Bringing back Palpatine and making Rey his granddaughter was another idiotic decision. I’d have much preferred that she was Luke’s daughter, possibly canonizing the film existence of Mara Jade (even though Lucas did not like that character).

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rocknroll41 said:

I’ve had a change of heart recently. At this point, I think the Disney deal was a huge mistake.

Why the change?

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Servii said:

rocknroll41 said:

I’ve had a change of heart recently. At this point, I think the Disney deal was a huge mistake.

Why the change?

'Cause he watched The Acolyte, probably.

“I know that all of you like to dream about space and are a little bit of envious of us. But you know what? We’re also envious of you. We are exploring space, but it’s only the beginning. Planets and unknown worlds are awaiting you. You will continue to storm the Universe.”

— Yuri Gagarin

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Spartacus01 said:

Servii said:

rocknroll41 said:

I’ve had a change of heart recently. At this point, I think the Disney deal was a huge mistake.

Why the change?

'Cause he watched The Acolyte, probably.

I didn’t even have to watch it. Once I read the basic premise, I thought “Shit; Kennedy’s letting people screw things up even worse.”

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Spartacus01 said:

Servii said:

rocknroll41 said:

I’ve had a change of heart recently. At this point, I think the Disney deal was a huge mistake.

Why the change?

'Cause he watched The Acolyte, probably.

Sadly, kinda, yeah…

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I’m not sure if another company would have done much better. Like say Warner Bros. Look at how messy DC has been.

And 20th Century Fox was absorbed by Disney anyway.

Amazon or Apple I’m not sure about I’ve never been subscribed to their services.

Who would have been a better choice, Lucas said well they have Marvel and Pixar and I trust Bob,lol.

The studio that turned down Star Wars and Back to the Future, and Lord of the Rings. The House of Mickey Mouse.

They made some whoppers of bad decisions in time. But then again United Artists turned down Star Wars the home of James Bond, and Universal who went on to make Battlestar Galactica.

Lucas was selling anyway there never was a chance of him not selling, despite what he told Marcia in the 1980s.

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JadedSkywalker said:

Amazon or Apple I’m not sure about I’ve never been subscribed to their services.

I for one can tell you Amazon produces some pretty great movies and streaming series.

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JadedSkywalker said:

Lucas was selling anyway there never was a chance of him not selling, despite what he told Marcia in the 1980s.

See, I remember Lucas saying many, many years ago that he believed Disney would be a great company to protect Lucasfilm and Star Wars, when he was talking about retirement either after the OT or the PT. So when he finally sold to Disney it didn’t surprise me. Now for the life of me I can’t find where he said it.

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All I know is he knew they bought Pixar a former Lucas company from Steve Jobs, he liked what they did with Pixar and he seemed to like what they did with Marvel and thought they honored Stan Lee. He thought they’d treat him good and make his sequel treatments as movies. Kathy Kennedy said all the right things. Bob Iger promised a handshake agreement, but it wasn’t legally binding. and Lucas thought he could rely on friendship, but he found betrayal.

These kind of acquisitions is what Bob is known for though, buying up IP. Disney made a business decision.

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Personally, I don’t mind that they discarded Lucas’ ideas for the Sequel Trilogy, because I wasn’t a fan of his concepts anyway. What really bothers me, though, is that they threw out his ideas only to come up with something even worse. If they had rejected his vision but delivered a solid, well-crafted trilogy, I wouldn’t have had any complaints. Unfortunately, they chose to abandon his plans just to create something that manages to be even more disappointing than what he originally envisioned.

“I know that all of you like to dream about space and are a little bit of envious of us. But you know what? We’re also envious of you. We are exploring space, but it’s only the beginning. Planets and unknown worlds are awaiting you. You will continue to storm the Universe.”

— Yuri Gagarin

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I still wonder if people would want Darth Maul as the new Sidious, a femme fatale apprentice. and a midichlorian story nobody liked that in the prequel. The story of the Whills, Luke training younglings.

The only net positive I can think of is a successful Jedi Order and New Republic government. With Leia as chancellor. And Luke replacing Yoda as the head of the new order.

I just don’t see Darth Maul as a threat to Luke’s authority and power. Not when Obi-Wan dispatched him so easily in Phantom Menace. Any rebellion of Stormtroopers and New Sith shouldn’t be too hard to deal with. With hundreds of Jedi and a giant galaxy wide government.

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I would not be the Star Wars fan I am without the Disney purchase. I remember being in college and depressed and being shown the Clone Wars show, and the promise of new movies, and it was all amazing and I’ve loved most everything they’ve put out. I also have discovered the EU because of it, and have a near complete EU collection of novels.

The worst part about the Disney purchase honestly is the toxic Fandom Menace that appeared in 2017. Star Wars has died every month for the past 7 years and it just makes me so tired. I do my best to just block them on all social medias just to keep a bit of my sanity.

After being beaten and battered by prequel hate, I promise not to be that to the next generation.

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I agree in spirit with what you are saying nobody should be mistreated for liking Star Wars. Or harassed.

For me Star Wars is the first three movies. And only first two are good. The third is mediocre. They are fundamental Star Wars, the prequel is supplemental. Disney is almost elseworlds, in fact some days I consider the Sequel trilogy to be Infinities, despite having Mark, Carrie and Harrison in them. Despite disappointment, I don’t want those films erased.

The artists and creatives who worked on them deserve to be respected, if not lauded critically.

But what one considers canon to them personally and what is official Star Wars are two separate things.

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I suppose, in a roundabout way, the Sequel Trilogy actually revived my interest in Star Wars. Before The Force Awakens came out, I had fallen into the camp of “ANH and ESB are the only good ones. George Lucas was a fool who got lucky.” I hated the prequels. I really wanted Episode VII to pull me back in, though. I wanted to get invested again, despite all that.

After I walked away disappointed with the movie, I looked online and saw almost entirely praise for it. So I assumed that I was the problem, that Star Wars just wasn’t for me anymore. Then The Last Jedi came out, and I admit, I felt a little vindicated at the time that people were finally pointing out the issues with the new trilogy and admitting that it wasn’t handling the characters as well as it should. It was that movie that made me appreciate OT Luke so much more as a character, and led me to reevaluate what exactly the appeal of Star Wars and its characters was for me.

Then Rise of Skywalker came out, and was such a fever dream of a movie that it made it easier for me to mentally divorce the Sequel Trilogy from the Star Wars that I liked. It was like a weight had been lifted, and I could carry on being a Star Wars nerd without having to dread what they would do with the OT characters next. It was right after that that I discovered the fan preservation projects, went back and rewatched the first six movies, and started getting into the old EU books. So, in a way, I guess I appreciate that Disney Star Wars exists.

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I think that Disney has has some, shall we say, “missteps”, but on the whole they have done pretty well in my opinion. The Last Jedi was the low point in my opinion. While The Acolyte had some problems, I don’t count myself among the haters on that one. I would have liked to see where they would have gone with another season. Skeleton Crew, while aimed at a younger audience, has been fun and refreshing. Over all, I’d say I’m optimistic for the future of the franchise.