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Anyone know when 4K83 releases? — Page 2

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nightstalkerpoet said:

I hate to be “that guy”, but just in case noone on the team has caught it, the site name is misspelled at the end.

Otherwise, beautiful trailer!

Fortunately, it’s Vimeo so they should be able to replace the video without having to send out a new link.

This does look amazing!

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Hah, had to read it 3 or 4 times before seeing it.

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Fuck yes. Great work, guys!

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Great to hear! I can’t wait to see this.

“After a time, you may find that having, is not so pleasing a thing after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true.” - Spock

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Damn, it hasn’t even been a year since 4k77 was released. With any luck, 4k80 will arrive before Valentine’s Day 2019!

On a different note, how does the cropping compare with (among other releases) Harmy’s Grindhouse 35mm, Harmy’s Despecialized 2.0, and the 2011 SE Blu-Ray? I remember that @ZigZag compared a frame from ANH here and it showed that the Star Wars SSE had moments of showing more frame than 4K77 did. I’d like to know if something similar is going on between 4K83 and Harmy’s Grindhouse.

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Danfun128 said:

Damn, it hasn’t even been a year since 4k77 was released. With any luck, 4k80 will arrive before Valentine’s Day 2019!

On a different note, how does the cropping compare with (among other releases) Harmy’s Grindhouse 35mm, Harmy’s Despecialized 2.0, and the 2011 SE Blu-Ray? I remember that @ZigZag compared a frame from ANH here and it showed that the Star Wars SSE had moments of showing more frame than 4K77 did. I’d like to know if something similar is going on between 4K83 and Harmy’s Grindhouse.

On the right side the crop is about the same as official releases (may show slightly less or slightly more). On the top and bottom a bit more of the image is present in 4k83. On the left side even more of the image is shown in 4k83. So overall 4k83 has more image then has ever been presented before.

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Huh. Weird that the SSE would show more image than the 4K77, but the 4K83 shows more picture than the other releases…so I take it the Harmy’s Grindhouse showed less image than even the 2011 SE?

On a side note, what were the film sources used for 4K83, and how were missing frames (if any) handled?

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99.9% of all frames from one 35mm Eastman print struck directly from the original negative in 1983. The remaining 175 frames are from an alternate 35mm print. No missing frames. All frames are from 35mm prints scanned at 4K. 4k83 even has the two theatrical frames that are missing from the GOUT. 100% of frames as seen in theatres in 1983.

The 175 frames were needed because of a scanning glitch during the main print capture else all would have been from the one print.

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oohteedee said:

99.9% of all frames from one 35mm Eastman print struck directly from the original negative in 1983. The remaining 175 frames are from an alternate 35mm print. No missing frames. All frames are from 35mm prints scanned at 4K. 4k83 even has the two theatrical frames that are missing from the GOUT. 100% of frames as seen in theatres in 1983.

The 175 frames were needed because of a scanning glitch during the main print capture else all would have been from the one print.

4k83 even has the two theatrical frames that are missing from the GOUT. 100% of frames as seen in theatres in 1983.

So… how is GOUT audio syncing handled?

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This is great news! Hopefully somebody can post this in an easy to get place for us!

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4K83 is not gout synced. It has two extra frames shown in theatres.
The optical print audio is the primary audio track.
hairy_hen has created a new 5.1 audio track for this release.
schorman has updated all the English LaserDisc audio to this release.
All audio provided with 4k83 is synced to 4k83.

Any other gout audio you may have may be slightly out of sync after 0:47:41, if used with 4k83. It should not be noticeable though.

Foreign language tracks don’t lip sync anyway so you’d never notice it being slightly out.

In updating the audio tracks for 4k83 our audio experts actually discovered that the gout synced audio tracks are not actually properly gout synced themselves. All tracks are off sync by 2 to 3 frames for over half of the movie.

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oohteedee said:

99.9% of all frames from one 35mm Eastman print struck directly from the original negative in 1983.

Why was a print struck directly from the original negative? Aren’t there usually IPs/INs in the workflow between the negative and release prints?

Was this some kind of “special”/test print?

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Theatrical prints are typically three generations from the negative.

This is indeed a special screening print struck directly from the negative. It spent most of its life in storage and was maybe only projected a few times. The low generation is evident when you see the minimal grain and sharpness. It had next to no dirt on the print as well.

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oohteedee said:

Theatrical prints are typically three generations from the negative.

This is indeed a special screening print struck directly from the negative. It spent most of its life in storage and was maybe only projected a few times. The low generation is evident when you see the minimal grain and sharpness. It had next to no dirt on the print as well.

Wow, that’s amazing. I wonder why it exists. Can’t wait for this to show up on the spleen!

“After a time, you may find that having, is not so pleasing a thing after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true.” - Spock

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Williarob said:

The 1080p version was released today. The UHD version is still encoding, but will be ready in a few days. I’m sure it will show up on the organ and other places soon.

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Is there a DNR version?

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No DNR version has been made.
No DNR or sharpening has been applied to the image.
The grain is very minimal. It hasn’t yet been decided if a DNR version will be made.