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Another way Lucas is screwing us! (re the 2006 GOUT DVD release)

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have fun watching a non anamorphic widescreen laserdisc transfer that not even uses the whole disc…
instead we have XBOX game demos and trailers for the upcoming lego game…

lol
and of course stupid people will still defend this man…
anyone who does is pathetic after hearing this.

 

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Didn't we already know that the second disc contained crappy video game trailers?

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I meant the trailers, although, actually, they're probably anamorphic and have a better image quality than the movie...

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Does it matter? Most DVDs these days do contain trailers and lame previews. Heck, there were some issues concerning the compression of the 2005 version of King Kong on the DVD, and they still managed to cram a Volkswagen commercial and some NYC tourism thing onto the disc.

I'd get concerned if we find out they're being put on a single layered disc. Then the extra content will seem ludicris. If they do go with dual layered, then little things like a game demo and some commercials isn't really a problem as there should be enough space.
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That may be true, but it's just clutter. I know I'm only nitpicking here, but I hate extraneous shit on DVDs - any DVDs.

War does not make one great.

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Yeah, me too. Seems so tacky, especailly for something like this.

An Xbox demo, a lego trailer? Come on!

I might buy three dual layered blank DVDs and run them through DVD shrink with no compression, simply removing the demos and junk.

And even learn how to tamper with the menus to get rid of even their very mention.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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does it really matter THAT much that the menu will go something like
OOT movie
lego commercial
something else

why does that even matter.
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Less space on the DVD being devoted to good image quality.

Still, what's worrying me the most is the Laserdisc-master issue. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know DVDs are better than Laserdiscs, but DVDs do have some problems in comparison to it (such as a lack of true analogue motion blur). Therefore, we'll have the already-present Laserdisc deficiencies being further compounded by DVD deficiencies.


Edit: Oh, and by the way, Lego Star Wars is one awesome video game. Very fun. I'm looking forward to a new game based on the classic trilogy.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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I look forward to being educated about this analog motion blur.
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
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have fun watching a non anamorphic widescreen laserdisc transfer that not even uses the whole disc...
Dude, "superbit" claim to "max out dvd quality and fill the disc with just the video and audio in their HIGEST POSSIBLE QUALITY!!!!" as justification for not including special features... but pop one in, and you'll find that the movie only takes up 6gig or less typically, leaving stacks of free space. Simply said, you don't have to use all the bits on a DVD to have a movie encoded in good quality. I mean come on!
Some were not blessed with brains.
<blockquote>Originally posted by: BadAssKeith

You are passing up on a great opportunity to makes lots of money,
make Lucas lose a lot of his money
and make him look bad to the entire world
and you could be well known and liked

None of us here like Lucas or Lucasfilm.
I have death wishes on Lucas and Macullum.
we could all probably get 10s of thousands of dollars!
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know DVDs are better than Laserdiscs, but DVDs do have some problems in comparison to it (such as a lack of true analogue motion blur). Therefore, we'll have the already-present Laserdisc deficiencies being further compounded by DVD deficiencies.
Once again, the DVDs are made from Digital Tape masters, which were used to make Laserdiscs (and VHS tapes). They are not made from Laserdiscs (or VHS tapes). They will thus not contain any "Laserdisc deficiencies" (or "VHS deficiencies").

But having any kind of video game trailer on there still sucks.
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
That may be true, but it's just clutter. I know I'm only nitpicking here, but I hate extraneous shit on DVDs - any DVDs.


But remember according to Lucasfilm the OOT 'bonus material' IS essentially extraneous shit.
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So true.
How the OOT is being treated today.
I can only hope atleat they are on DL discs, not some dvd5 shit.
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
does it really matter THAT much that the menu will go something like
OOT movie
lego commercial
something else

why does that even matter.
It doesn't really - it's just kinda tacky.

War does not make one great.

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No, what would really suck is if the menu went:

X-Box Demo
Lego Trailer


movie...

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I read on here somewhere else that it will probably be an easter egg and nobody will be able to find it!
LOL
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Heh, yeah, that was me actually, who suggested that hypothesis.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I couldn't remember who it was. That was funny. And you are probably right!
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WEll, as long as it's the standard 1138 easter egg, I guess it won't be so bad!

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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If the disc art looks anything like the box art, I'll be making "backups" anyway, at which point, you may as well remove the menu and extras.
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Originally posted by: THX
If the disc art looks anything like the box art, I'll be making "backups" anyway, at which point, you may as well remove the menu and extras.

I've mentioned before that I plan on making a copy so that I can have a disc without any new artwork on it, to go along with the cover I'm making.

Is it easy to leave the game and Lego preview off of the copy?
*edit* - Yeah, and the menu also. I just want the movie on there.
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Originally posted by: THX
Once again, the DVDs are made from Digital Tape masters, which were used to make Laserdiscs (and VHS tapes). They are not made from Laserdiscs (or VHS tapes). They will thus not contain any "Laserdisc deficiencies" (or "VHS deficiencies").


Really? But according to "Lynne Hale" for "publicity" at Lucasfilm:

"The 1993 Laserdisc masters represented the best source for providing the original versions as DVD bonus material. Although these are non-anamorphic versions, they do preserve the original widescreen composition of the movies."

If we take what she said to be strictly accurate, then they will be using "Laserdisc masters." Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but a Laserdisc master would technically be a parent Laserdisc whose data is copied onto all the other Laserdiscs sent out to for purchase. Otherwise "Lynne" would have said "Digital Tape Masters" used to make the Laserdisc masters.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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She is using the term loosely (like everyone else) to mean masters made for a Laserdisc release. They are not using Laserdiscs as the masters, trust me.
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Originally posted by: THX
Once again, the DVDs are made from Digital Tape masters, which were used to make Laserdiscs (and VHS tapes). They are not made from Laserdiscs (or VHS tapes). They will thus not contain any "Laserdisc deficiencies" (or "VHS deficiencies").


Really? But according to "Lynne Hale" for "publicity" at Lucasfilm:

"The 1993 Laserdisc masters represented the best source for providing the original versions as DVD bonus material. Although these are non-anamorphic versions, they do preserve the original widescreen composition of the movies."

If we take what she said to be strictly accurate, then they will be using "Laserdisc masters." Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but a Laserdisc master would technically be a parent Laserdisc whose data is copied onto all the other Laserdiscs sent out to for purchase. Otherwise "Lynne" would have said "Digital Tape Masters" used to make the Laserdisc masters.


She may have meant the digital masters used for the Laserdiscs. Honestly, I'm surprised they didn't use a vintage, well-worn 1982 VHS copy as the DVD master.