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Another bloody edit of TPM (* unfinished project *) — Page 4

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guess I misread the thread


Is it not sad that in this time, we are more surprised by acts of love than acts of hate?
-Me

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ith, what if you moved the celebration to the start fo the film rather than the end? It could be some kind of "Naboo united" day or something.

Then, you cut to the invasion and opening battle, and you have the gungans rounded up by droids(for slave labor) and Jar Jar escaping and hiding in the forest.

Then you can do the whole core scene maybe later in the film when they return to the planet instead of up front.

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shanep - thanks, I've given this some thought. I'm not sure that there's the footage to do what you want, and this edit is already going to have quite a few allusions to off-screen events. The celebration scene is so small in terms of runtime that I think it's safe to drop it.

OKAY, GUYS, I NEED YOUR HELP NOW!

Right, I don't actually own Ep1 on DVD. I feel terrible at the thought of giving Lucas money for the cack-carnival that is the pure, unadulterated Ep1. You need to give me as many good reasons as you can for me to spend the £7 (~US$13) to get the disc. Then I need some pointers as to what tech I need to rip the disc and start editing. My first project will be to produce a really rough drag-and-drop and overdub/subtitle of ep1 indicating all of my changes, which I'll post up for review comments before starting seriously on this.
I am NOT a committee!
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Also, incidentally, it's probably your screen font, but I'm LTH, not ITH
I am NOT a committee!
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I say bite the bullet and buy the disc. See if you get it even cheaper via ebay.

Legally speaking, you should probably have the disc in order to create a fan edit (IANAL).

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Oh yes, I wouldn't dream of making a fan edit without buying the disc, which is why I'm in such a quandary!
I am NOT a committee!
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Wow, I can't believe I haven't hit this thread yet. First off, I do still have that music for the Anakin/Padme meeting if anyone wants it.

There's definitely some great material here. The idea of moving the brunt of the Gungan battle to the beginning, and thus, being the droid invasion, is definitely cool. There's a lot more to be said, but there are some great ideas here.

However, I think you should be wary of getting too serious in tone. Sure, it shouldn't have poop jokes and "Yippee!" and all of that, but remember, the original thing of Star Wars was a throwback to the fun adventure serials of Lucas's youth. My biggest issue is ending on the funeral scene. If you do that, then there won't be one truly upbeat ending in the whole prequel trilogy. Also, musically the transition to the end credits would be really rough. Even ROTS ended on the hope of the Force Theme to give it some life and a workable transition to the end credits (something I had been concerned about before the film released). I'm definitely in agreement with darthpreston's words a few pages back: the obvious conflict is resolved by the end of the film, and with the Gungans freed, there is certainly cause for celebration. I suppose I could rant about this, but I guess you see what I'm saying.

And overall, I wouldn't ditch some of the adventure elements (underwater chase, for instance). I think it would work in your favor to try to tweak some of the side stuff so it's more effective, as opposed to ditching it, if you see what I'm saying.

Another thing to consider is that TPM very much mirrors ANH in its having one character lead to another. We first meet Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, who get threatened by the Neimoidians. From there we meet Jar Jar and go to rescue the Queen. Now the group goes to Tatooine and meets Anakin. In ANH, we first meet the droids, on a ship that gets attacked by Vader, who takes the princess, who sends R2 with information for the Death Star. The droids escape to Tatooine, where they meet Luke, with whom they find Obi-Wan, who takes them to Mos Eisley to meet Han and Chewie. So there are merits to taking a little time and enjoying the ride. You don't have to rush to Anakin necessarily. Should he be the focus? Sure, but we don't have to find that out right away.

Please don't take this harshly; there are really great ideas here. And if I'd followed the thread from the start, I could've addressed issues as they came along. I'm just concerned that in focusing on the story and the thrust of the film too much, we can run the risk of not enjoying the ride as much as we could. I hope this makes sense. Keep up the good work!
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Originally posted by: musicman
Wow, I can't believe I haven't hit this thread yet. First off, I do still have that music for the Anakin/Padme meeting if anyone wants it.


Which music are you talking about?

Also regarding your comments about the underwater chase, if I could pull it off I would cut the whole thing. It is completely unrealistic, and has the same monster in two totally different places. I mean come on, a planet core made out of water.


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Well, yeah, I can see that, but I was trying to pick an example off the top of my head. ADM's version is a possible solution, though. Someone mentioned cutting some of the adventure type stuff, and basically what I was trying to say is that's part of the point of Star Wars. Has it become something bigger than that? Sure, but it still needs to be a part of it, and so those elements should stay.

And the music I'm talking about is the music in Watto's shop when Anakin meets Padme for the first time.

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As I said before, lth, you should color correct the film and repaint sabers, to Ep. 1 fit with the other prequels
Don't let fuzz sabers live.
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We get it you hate the lightsabers, but this project is not just about you.


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Just an idea. I'll get outta here.Not!
I'm out.
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Okay, the DVD is on its way. Are there any other sources I should have to hand for this project? I notice that there's a 2-disc region-1 DVD available on Amazon - does anyone know what the bonus footage is and whether any of it is worth using? Cheers.
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I really don't know anything about the foreign releases of TPM on DVD, but I thought the 2 disc region 1 version was the ONLY version released in the US. It's what I have.

The second disc has all the deleted scenes on it. Whether you will want to use them is up to you. If I were you, I would use some of the extra action in the extended pod race to make a super action-packed, 1-lap pod race.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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It seems that there's a 1999 and a 2004 DVD kicking around in the UK - the latter seems to be the two-disc edition so that's what I'm getting.

I bloody hate the podracing, and intend to cut it to ribbons, but we'll see. It might have to stay just to keep the film long enough, which is a shame, but for pacing reasons having a hugely built-up victory 2/3rds of the way through the film is madness. There's more podracing than Gungan battle or Jedi duel. Grrrr.
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I looked up the phantom menace on Amazon.co.uk and only found one version, the 1999 2 disc region 2 edition. I don't know what single disc or 2004 release disc you are talking about, but I couldn't find it. The only star wars DVD's released in 2004 was the SE OT boxset.