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Anakin & Obi-Wan: The Friendship We Never Really Saw — Page 2
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Originally posted by: greencapt
I think the argument here is not that people want obvious stuff spoon-fed to them (as GL tended to do in the PT and somewhat in ROTJ) but indtead that the PT should have *focused* more on the friendship instead of Gungan wars and trade disputes and long useless speeches.
Well put greencapt.
So Shimraa, we meet again at last....
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
hey guys, i just made a very funny observation. in another thread some body was argueing with me that every thing doesnt need to be fleshed out and be told to people directly, he said this was the problem with the PT. now in the thread you guys are argueing that the problem in the PT was that something wasnt fleshed out and wasnt told to us directly using words. hmmm... take it how you will i just find that very funny.
first people were saying how things dont need to be spelled out, or hand fed to us by Lucas. Thats totally different then fleshed out. the best definition i found is here where they say it means "To give substance or detail"
when the characters flat out state something that is stupidly obvious that is spoon feeding us. When the relationship between Anakin and Obi-Wan is shown, and we get to see them acting as two really great friends, and their actions make us feel the bond between them that is fleshing out the relationship. Lines like "Your the closest thing i have to a father" or 'you're my best friend ani', 'and you're mine too obi', 'best friends forever man' isnt fleshing it out, its being insulting to the viewers intelligence. 'See they said they are friends so they must be' The part where Anakin refuses to leave Obi-Wan behind after saving palpatine and killing Dooku, starts to show it, but there wasnt enough stuff like this, it was all told to us. we needed more stuff like this to show why he wouldnt leave him, why he cared about Obi-Wan so much and vice versa. Basically this doesnt have the same effect as if we had scene it, lived the growth of their friendship with them. Then it would have been personal to us. The battle at the end would have carried even more emotion than it did (i know some people dont think it had much emotion at all, but i think it did). When Obi-Wan says "You were like a brother to me" to Anakin it would have been orders of magnitudes more powerful, and caused much more emotions to stir in the audience because Anakin would have been betraying all of us, not just Obi-Wan.
-Darth Simon
ps. Slightly off topic. In Ep II Anakin says Obi-Wan is like his father (on at least 2 occasions), In Ep III Obi-Wan refers to him as a brother, and Anakin now refers to Palpatine as a Father. Did anyone else find this and the whole closeness Palps had to Anakin weird. I mean, for me it seemed like given a choice, Anakin would have chosen Palpatine over Obi-Wan, the latter of which is supposed to be his best friend in the whole world. I thought this cheapened the Obi-Wan/Anakin relationship for me.
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin
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*touchy people disclaimer*
some or all of the above comments are partially exaggerated to convey a point, none of the comments are meant as personal attacks on anyone mentioned or reference in the above post
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
hey guys, i just made a very funny observation. in another thread some body was argueing with me that every thing doesnt need to be fleshed out and be told to people directly, he said this was the problem with the PT. now in the thread you guys are argueing that the problem in the PT was that something wasnt fleshed out and wasnt told to us directly using words. hmmm... take it how you will i just find that very funny.
Hmm, I think Shimraa is talking about me. Thanks for clearing that up, guys, as there is definitely a fine line between spoonfeeding and fleshing out.
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
...but how would you have liked them to portray it.
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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
It's only in the nature of Star Wars that I say this: Anakin and Obi-Wan should have had a romantic, candlelit dinner followed by snuggling. After all, Anakin and Obi-Wan were like brothers, and we all know the situations Lucas puts his sibling pairs in. ^_~
lol
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Anakin and Padme
Obi-Wan and Padme
Obi-Wan and... Anakin?
Episode III.... Three times the excitement, three times the, "Ohhhh, yeaaaah!"
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Puts a whole new twist on that deleted Padme/Obi-Wan affair, doesn't it?
Anakin and Padme
Obi-Wan and Padme
Obi-Wan and... Anakin?
Episode III.... Three times the excitement, three times the, "Ohhhh, yeaaaah!"
maybe Luke and Leia really arent Anakin's children...or maybe only one of them is...
-Darth Simon
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin
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*touchy people disclaimer*
some or all of the above comments are partially exaggerated to convey a point, none of the comments are meant as personal attacks on anyone mentioned or reference in the above post
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Puts a whole new twist on that deleted Padme/Obi-Wan affair, doesn't it?
Anakin and Padme
Obi-Wan and Padme
Obi-Wan and... Anakin?
Episode III.... Three times the excitement, three times the, "Ohhhh, yeaaaah!"
HAHAHA