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An idea for Halloween....

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Hello!

I was wondering if anyone had done or thought of a "blending" so to speak, into one film, the best (in my opinion anyway) elements of Halloween?

My idea consists of using the extended version of Halloween, followed by Halloween II in it's entirety, then ending it with the death of Laurie Strode from the first portion of Halloween Resurrection.

I know NOTHING about putting such a thing together, so how would any of you experienced folks do it?

It's really sad when the "creative minds" behind something we hold dear are also guilty of its destruction.

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Nearsighted Scrappile said:

Hello!

I was wondering if anyone had done or thought of a "blending" so to speak, into one film, the best (in my opinion anyway) elements of Halloween?

My idea consists of using the extended version of Halloween, followed by Halloween II in it's entirety, then ending it with the death of Laurie Strode from the first portion of Halloween Resurrection.

I know NOTHING about putting such a thing together, so how would any of you experienced folks do it?

I started to work on this a few weeks ago, but only planned to keep it to myself (and my wife).

I plan on using the extended edition of Halloween (with all of the TV scenes added-in) from the 2001 DVD and the extended edition of Halloween II (again, with all of the TV scenes added-in) from the 2012 DVD.

In fact, I purchased the new Halloween II Blu-ray+DVD release for this very project!

I wouldn't mind releasing it. Would you like it to be "our" project? If so, then PM me!

 

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Halloween: Extended Edition (2001; Anchor Bay)

Halloween II: Collector's Edition (2012; Shout! Factory)

Halloween Homecoming (2002; Halloween: Resurrection bootleg)

Halloween: Resurrection (2012; Echo Bridge Home Entertainment)

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PM sent!

It's really sad when the "creative minds" behind something we hold dear are also guilty of its destruction.

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I don't know about the first Halloween, but part 2, the TV version is in fullscreen. I don't know if that makes things difficult or not.

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Oh dear.  That could create problems.

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About 7 years ago I did an edit where I combined Halloween 1 & 2 into one long movie.  I sent a DVD copy to DJ and then forgot about it.  It was called Halloween: The Night He Came Home. 

I always thought that turned out pretty good. 

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Nearsighted Scrappile said:


Oh dear.  That could create problems.

Yes, it most certainly can. I'll check my copy of the TV version of Halloween II tonight. (It was recently re-released as a "collector's edition".)

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I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

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The Shout Factory version of Halloween 2 has the TV cut in SD but the deleted scenes (stuff from the TV Cut) are all in HD.  That could prove be useful if you plan on using that footage in your edit.

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Mackey256 said:


The Shout Factory version of Halloween 2 has the TV cut in SD but the deleted scenes (stuff from the TV Cut) are all in HD.  That could prove be useful if you plan on using that footage in your edit.

Ah, awesome!

Can someone here start an index of the Halloween 2 deleted scenes and when/where they should be inserted into the video?

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I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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Mackey256 said:

The Shout Factory version of Halloween 2 has the TV cut in SD but the deleted scenes (stuff from the TV Cut) are all in HD.  That could prove be useful if you plan on using that footage in your edit.

You mean the BD? I have the DVD version, and the "deleted scenes" are pan'n'scan 4:3, just like the TV cut (but lower quality and interlaced).

Though "HD" and "SD" have nothing to do with the aspect ratio anyway ;)

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Yeah, I'm a little confused too, Mackey.  Do you mind clarifying what you meant?

Also, I have a bootleg DVD of Halloween Resurrection called Halloween Homecoming.  The quality is absolutely terrible, but the beginning contains 8MM footage of Michael as a boy and family.  It is rather creepy and it's a damn shame it wasn't used in the final cut.

 

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Nearsighted Scrappile said:


Yeah, I'm a little confused too, Mackey.  Do you mind clarifying what you meant?

Also, I have a bootleg DVD of Halloween Resurrection called Halloween Homecoming.  The quality is absolutely terrible, but the beginning contains 8MM footage of Michael as a boy and family.  It is rather creepy and it's a damn shame it wasn't used in the final cut.

 

Is the 8mm footage just crappy or does it also suffer from digital video artifacts, e.g., blocking?

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It probably looks like an old VHS capture that's been reencoded a few times and sent through KaZaA and back, like the producer's cut of Halloween 6.

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I'm talking about the new BluRay released of Halloween II by Shout Factory.  The TV cut is from the second disc (DVD) and is 4:3 SD.  The deleted scenes from the the TV cut are on the BluRay disc in 16:9 HD.

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Just went to double check my Blu Ray of Halloween II to really make sure the deleted scenes were in widescreen and realized I let my brother borrow it.

I'll shoot him a text to have him check for me.  I'm 98% sure they were but I'm doubting myself now.  :-/

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OK, I'm willing to set aside some things to get this done before Halloween, but I'm pretty short on time nowadays, so I'm going to need some help.

What I need is: a big list telling me exactly where (frame numbers are preferable, but time/scene-description would be fine as well) each deleted scene should be inserted.

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I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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I edited Post 2 to include a list of sources.

Are there any flashback scenes available in any of the other Halloween movies?

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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AntcuFaalb said: Is the 8mm footage just crappy or does it also suffer from digital video artifacts, e.g., blocking?

 

All of the above, unfortunately.  It's a real shame because for the first time in years, a Halloween film was feeling "connected" to the beginning story.  Perhaps the footage can still be used somehow, but I'm just not sure how.  Like maybe it was "newly discovered" and disclaimed as "highly damaged" or something.

Also, for the UPDATES portion, can we have the source media listed?  Such as (DVD) or (BD)?

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Nearsighted Scrappile said:

AntcuFaalb said: Is the 8mm footage just crappy or does it also suffer from digital video artifacts, e.g., blocking?

 

All of the above, unfortunately.  It's a real shame because for the first time in years, a Halloween film was feeling "connected" to the beginning story.  Perhaps the footage can still be used somehow, but I'm just not sure how.  Like maybe it was "newly discovered" and disclaimed as "highly damaged" or something.

Also, for the UPDATES portion, can we have the source media listed?  Such as (DVD) or (BD)?

They're all going to have to be DVD except for the Halloween II deleted scenes.

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Still no word from my brother about the Halloween II deleted scenes but he's probably at work. 

I did a quick youtube search for the Halloween: Resurrection 8mm footage and found this link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22sKuZMlgcg

I don't know if this is better or worse than the copy you have but I downloaded it and converted the footage to 1080p.  As you can guess it looked pretty bad.

http://i.imgur.com/SVgmd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SVgmd.jpg

I then added some noise to hide the digital blocking and it started to look a bit better.

http://i.imgur.com/R9pFi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/R9pFi.jpg

I then added some more filters to hide a few other imperfections and now it's at least watchable at 1080p. 

http://i.imgur.com/GwUzR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/GwUzR.jpg

I looks nothing like the original, I'm sure.  Seeing as it's supposed to look like old worn out footage I figured that would be OK.  If anyone wants to see the footage shoot me a PM.

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Never mind my last post. 

If you are working at DVD resolution then you can just take that youtube footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22sKuZMlgcg) and add some film grain to it and it would look fine blown up for your edit. 

I was under the impression you were making an HD Fan Edit.

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Mackey256 said:

Never mind my last post. 

If you are working at DVD resolution then you can just take that youtube footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22sKuZMlgcg) and add some film grain to it and it would look fine blown up for your edit. 

I was under the impression you were making an HD Fan Edit.

Unfortunately, I don't have the time or resources to work in >DVD quality.

Furthermore, the Halloween Extended Edition (2001; Anchor Bay) was never released in HD. Did they ever release the Halloween deleted scenes in HD?

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I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

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That's completely understandable.

I don't think they ever put the extended Halloween footage out in HD.  I'm not sure one way or the other about that though. 

In fact as the day goes on I'm less sure about the Halloween II deleted footage being in HD.

Edit: Nope the extended edition footage has never been released in HD.

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As far as I know, the best quality footage of the extended version of Halloween is indeed the Anchor Bay release.  It's unfortunately riddled with scratches and whatnot, but at least there is a BD source for the film proper now.

The YouTube footage is on par with the quality of what I have.  It looks a little "better" than mine because the viewing size is smaller of course, but the AR and everything is essentially the same.  I still think though, in the end, my footage would be higher quality for the project, simply because of the source compared to it being off the net.

It's really sad when the "creative minds" behind something we hold dear are also guilty of its destruction.