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Tobar said:
It’s pretty messed up that they asked for his input and he repeatedly told them he was against it and they did it anyway. What a way to “honor his legacy.”

That’s where I am on it also. I have absolutely no problem what so ever with a gay crew member. I’m all for it.

If you’re going to ask the original actor for his input on the character he helped create, then at least respect his wishes. That would be the ideal way to honor his legacy. A new crew member would work just as well.

May not be too late to edit it out. If it really is just some non-space travel scenes to establish, and considering the opinions from Takei, make the change and go with a fully established new character in the next film.

This film is already going to have a pall over it with Anton’s passing. No need to make it even more of a troubled film with one of the elder statesmen of the franchise voicing his displeasure with their rewriting his character.

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ferris209 said:

Is it just me, and my heavy Texas accent, but what makes me cringe when I always hear people call the Enterprise “Enta-prise” instead of “Enter-prise?” I mean, A LOT of people on most versions of Star Trek do it, so maybe it is just me. I dunno.

I don’t think I’ve ever noticed that. But then again, the crew of the real deal probably do it too.

For some reason, it used to bug me on the last series when they referred to the ship as Enterprise, and not the Enterprise.

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I have a problem with people who watch the show and still insist on calling Star Trek, STAR TRACK or STAR TRACKS!

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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Anchorhead said:

Tobar said:
It’s pretty messed up that they asked for his input and he repeatedly told them he was against it and they did it anyway. What a way to “honor his legacy.”

That’s where I am on it also. I have absolutely no problem what so ever with a gay crew member. I’m all for it.

If you’re going to ask the original actor for his input on the character he helped create, then at least respect his wishes. That would be the ideal way to honor his legacy. A new crew member would work just as well.

May not be too late to edit it out. If it really is just some non-space travel scenes to establish, and considering the opinions from Takei, make the change and go with a fully established new character in the next film.

This film is already going to have a pall over it with Anton’s passing. No need to make it even more of a troubled film with one of the elder statesmen of the franchise voicing his displeasure with their rewriting his character.

Not to mention the fact that, and nobody can deny this, the ONLY reason they chose Sulu to be gay was BECAUSE Takei was gay. Or else, why pick Sulu? It’s evident in every single TOS and the movies, he’s portrayed as straight. So, I actually think it is dishonorable for them to not honor Takei’s wishes, since he HAS TO BE the only reason they picked Sulu to be gay.

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FanFiltration said:

I have a problem with people who watch the show and still insist on calling Star Trek, STAR TRACK or STAR TRACKS!

Yeah, that’s not a problem around my house, so I hardly notice.

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Chekov might have been a more interesting choice, especially since gay people are treated like crap in Russia.

If there is a third film, they will have to decide whether Chekov has transferred off the ship or recast the part. They could go the route of the animated series, (which Chekov was not in) and bring in a new alien face or two. All the other alien crew members, except for Scotty’s little buddy, have been essentially in the background so far.

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Isn’t “trek” pronounced the same way as “track”?

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It’s supposed to rhyme with check, according to the official IPA pronunciation.

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Depends on where you are. 😉

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pittrek said:

Isn’t “trek” pronounced the same way as “track”?

No.

Trek - TR-EHH-K

Track - TR-ACK

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pittrek said:

Isn’t “trek” pronounced the same way as “track”?


Only if the above movie is pronounced the same way as “Shack”

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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FanFiltration said:

pittrek said:

Isn’t “trek” pronounced the same way as “track”?


Only if the above movie is pronounced the same way as “Shack”

Lol.

yhwx said:

It’s supposed to rhyme with check, according to the official IPA pronunciation.

I’m more of a wheat beer fan myself. IPA’s are a bit too hoppy for my taste.

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TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

It’s supposed to rhyme with check, according to the official IPA pronunciation.

I’m more of a wheat beer fan myself. IPA’s are a bit too hoppy for my taste.

lol

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SilverWook said:

Chekov might have been a more interesting choice, especially since gay people are treated like crap in Russia.

If there is a third film, they will have to decide whether Chekov has transferred off the ship or recast the part. They could go the route of the animated series, (which Chekov was not in) and bring in a new alien face or two. All the other alien crew members, except for Scotty’s little buddy, have been essentially in the background so far.

I don’t understand why we have to make a current character all of a sudden gay. Why can’t we just get a new character if it is so important what part the character puts his part into.

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Then people complain the new character is the token gay crew member. Kobayashi Maru…

In the 23rd century, it really shouldn’t be a big deal any more than a human falling in love with an alien.

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SilverWook said:

Then people complain the new character is the token gay crew member. Kobayashi Maru…

In the 23rd century, it really shouldn’t be a big deal any more than a human falling in love with an alien.

Kirk can bang’em right and left though.

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And for my third post in a row on this thread, I shall say this:

I checked twitter just now and I’m seeing early reviews for Beyond such as “the Sistine Chapel compared to other 2016 movies” “has big, bold action but puts these characters in, basically, a TOS episode. For me it was a dream,” and
“…occasionally dopey (in a good way)”

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Why does it NEED to be known that Cho’s Sulu is gay to begin with? Is it just a lazy ass PR move to grab a wider audience? It is not an integral part of the story and it never was when Roddenberry was still alive. Now, Gene wasn’t the greatest writer in the world, he was the idea man. He had the vision and he surrounded himself with people more than capable of making that vision a reality. THAT is what made TOS so awesome.

I agree, had they created a new character that was gay, fine, totally cool with it. The fact that they had to piss off Captain Sulu by rewriting his character after getting input that they asked HIM for but didn’t like? This may actually hinder me going to see this film in the theater proper like.

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Why did we need to know Lt. Ilia’s oath of celibacy was on record when she boarded the Enterprise? The oversexed, (and totally bald) Deltans were Gene’s idea. 😉

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