All Things Star Trek — Page 64

Tobar said:

I'm not sure about that green.

Here are some vintage photos of the model before she was "restored" in the '90s.

Here's a thread dedicated to researching what was done to it in the '90s.

Colors and lights are funny, huh? That picture in your first link of the saucer from the side, looks exactly like what I saw yesterday. UV illumination & analysis has apparently confirmed that that's definitely the original paintjob. In fact, this article has a photo of that, plus confirmation that the very guy posting those pics, Doug Drexler, is on the advisory committee for this restoration.

I can't say for sure that they'll get rid of the 90s awful job, but I think it's likely. Dr. Weitekamp said near the end of her talk "I am well aware of the strong opinions in the fan community about the 90s restoration".

darth_ender said:

skyjedi2005 said:

I know its probably blasphemy but i always preferred the model used in the motion picture the so called Refit.  The one they reused as the Enterprise A 

Wholeheartedly agree.

 I'm with these guys!

A poster of the photo below adorned my bedroom wall for many years.

I can not deny that the refit is a beautiful ship. 

I'm not saying the refit isn't great. It's my favorite too. But there's something about the classic curves of the original E that really make my warp core rumble.

Well I became a Trek fan around 1975 when the show went into heavy syndicated airplay. I was 8 or 9 years old, and the show became a huge part of my life. I had the tie-in toys, games and action figures. I had Kirk's uniform shirt (made the mistake of wearing it to school, but that is a story for another time...). Well I loved the original ship too. It was imprinted on my brain. In 1979 when I saw STMP for the first time, I hated the sets, the costumes, and the new look of the ship. It was not until I saw "The Wrath of Khan" and the re-lighted  and decorated sets, that I re-evaluated The Enterprise as seen in "The Motion Picture". That engine room set is still impressive. I don't think they have ever topped it.  The ship as seen in the first two films seemed to me like it could have been a real functional spaceship. The original series ship left a lot to the imagination as far as things like the control panels, and other props. It's the realism of the movie ship this makes it my personal favorite.  

It's been done. ;)

That article reads like a fan who just saw The Phantom Menace on opening night

timdiggerm said:

That article reads like a fan who just saw The Phantom Menace on opening night

 Yes, but David Gerrold actually wrote scripts for TOS. Easy to forget the mixed reception TMP actually got at the time.

Unlike TPM, most fans didn't want to come right out and badmouth the film. (At least not to the press camped out to get reactions.) We had waited so long for Trek to live again.

I knew a kid back in the 70's who had built the entire Starfleet out of those AMT kits. It was all hanging from his ceiling. I was stunned at the sight.

IIRC, he kitbashed a couple ships that had only appeared in the technical manual.

Tobar said:

SilverWook said:

Unlike TPM, most fans didn't want to come right out and badmouth the film. 

 I think this thread makes a pretty strong case for most everyone wanting to like TPM.

 Of course, most of us did want to like TPM. In the case of Trek, it was not wanting to harm this thing fans had kept alive, and taken years to convince the powers that be there was a market for new material. There was no "franchise" as it's thought of now.

There were fewer outlets to vent one's spleen back in 1979. You had to stay angry enough to write a ranting letter to Starlog or Cinefantastique, and maybe it saw print a few months later, or not. Even if you had a typewriter, you still needed to lick a stamp.

With modern technology, there's no "cooling off" period anymore.

Maybe it was a budgetary thing? With no "clean" shots to work with, the most they could do is paint over the original animation, and probably end up with thicker beams than the originals.

IIRC, they did enhance the shot of Scotty cutting into a bulkhead in The Naked Time. The Phaser had no visible beam in the original.

With TNG, they had the original 35mm raw footage available to rebuild optical FX shots.