All Things Star Trek — Page 57

Author: doubleofive
Time: 9-Dec-2014 7:17 AM
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People are worried about if they throw out the current script that they won't get a new one in time to start shooting for a 2016 release. I'm pretty sure that every writer in Hollywood has a Trek spec script, and if they didn't, they've written one since Friday.

My co-host and I talk about our thoughts on this whole business in next week's podcast. I'll post a link when it's up.

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Author: DrCrowTStarwars
Time: 9-Dec-2014 8:44 AM
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doubleofive said:

People are worried about if they throw out the current script that they won't get a new one in time to start shooting for a 2016 release. I'm pretty sure that every writer in Hollywood has a Trek spec script, and if they didn't, they've written one since Friday.

My co-host and I talk about our thoughts on this whole business in next week's podcast. I'll post a link when it's up.

Yeah and don't forget the basic outline for the script to Star Trek six came together in a single two hour meeting, and the script for Star Trek two was completely rewritten in three weeks. So good scripts can be written fast, you just need good writers. I think Paramount should turn to someone with more of a TV background since TV writers are used to banging out or rewriting scripts very quickly.

Author: TheBoost
Time: 9-Dec-2014 2:29 PM
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doubleofive said:

People are worried about if they throw out the current script that they won't get a new one in time to start shooting for a 2016 release. I'm pretty sure that every writer in Hollywood has a Trek spec script, and if they didn't, they've written one since Friday.

My co-host and I talk about our thoughts on this whole business in next week's podcast. I'll post a link when it's up.

Looking forward to the podcast.

I'd rather read what two guys wrote on a napkin at Denny's than whatever cripe (crap + tripe) Orci managed to create.

Author: Tobar
Time: 13-Dec-2014 7:59 AM
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Hmm....

I had made my peace with Orci directing, and now I'm standing here filled with so much hope. The question is whether or not the work that has been done until now will stay; my sources tell me that the script Orci was working on saw the Enterprise, the Vulcans and a new alien race competing to get a time travel device. The Vulcans want to go back and stop the destruction of their planet, and the time travel schtick is what would allow Chris Pine and William Shatner to share the screen. Is that still going to be the plot of the movie - a MacGuffin that could wipe out the previous two films?

[UPDATE: I've been in touch with some folks and it seems like the script was one of the problem factors. Paramount shut the production down last month, sending home all the design people while they battled over the direction of the screenplay. I imagine all this stuff is gone now]

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You know, if Orci's plan was to fix the timeline Days of Future Past style...I wish it had happened.

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Author: DrCrowTStarwars
Time: 13-Dec-2014 8:43 AM
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I wish this would happen.

http://trekcore.com/blog/2014/12/jonathan-frakes-on-trek-3/

Author: Johnny Ringo
Time: 13-Dec-2014 3:27 PM
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The franchise could do with a Riker beard after Wrath of Darkness.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GrowingTheBeard

Author: SilverWook
Time: 13-Dec-2014 4:11 PM
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I'd like to see Frakes get the gig. He's qualified, and seeing all the online naysayers eat a super size serving of crow would be sweet as well. ;)

Where were you in '77?

Author: DominicCobb
Time: 13-Dec-2014 4:52 PM (Edited)
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What has Frakes directed besides First Contact? Nothing good.

They need someone with JJ's energy. Edgar Wright would be the perfect choice times 10. But I think he's already working on another film. Joe Cornish would likely be the next best thing.

Let's just all be thankful Orci's out and hope his script is jettisoned into space never to be seen again.

Author: SilverWook
Time: 13-Dec-2014 5:27 PM (Edited)
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He has directed a lot of episodic television. I didn't like the live action Thunderbirds, but it was well made from a technical standpoint.

And we already had a Trek film with a director who was allegedly so unfamiliar with Trek, they thought Geordi was an alien! ;)

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Author: Tobar
Time: 13-Dec-2014 6:10 PM (Edited)
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That's not that big of a mistake for a non-fan to make if the handful of Trek things they'd ever seen included this episode.

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Author: SilverWook
Time: 13-Dec-2014 6:36 PM
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I doubt Stuart Baird watched any TNG episodes at all before making Nemesis.

Where were you in '77?

Author: pittrek
Time: 14-Dec-2014 6:01 AM
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If you give Frakes a great script, he makes a great movie / episode out of it.

If you give Frakes a shitty script, he makes an acceptable movie/episode out of it.

Author: DuracellEnergizer
Time: 14-Dec-2014 6:36 AM
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^So that explains why First Contact is the only TNG film that comes even close to being good.

Author: TV's Frink
Time: 14-Dec-2014 12:47 PM (Edited)
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Wait, you actually liked something?

...

Oh never mind, you said "even close to being good."

Author: Possessed
Time: 14-Dec-2014 2:06 PM
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I must be the only person on the planet who actually likes Nemesis.

Author: pittrek
Time: 14-Dec-2014 3:25 PM
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DuracellEnergizer said:

^So that explains why First Contact is the only TNG film that comes even close to being good.

I like also Insurrection, but not as much as the TOS movies. The TNG and VOY episodes he directed are great too

Author: Handman
Time: 14-Dec-2014 3:32 PM
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Possessed said:

I must be the only person on the planet who actually likes Nemesis.

Yep!

Author: DuracellEnergizer
Time: 14-Dec-2014 6:38 PM
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TV's Frink said:

Wait, you actually liked something?

...

Oh never mind, you said "even close to being good."

Well, I liked Marina Sirtis

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in Gargoyles.

Author: doubleofive
Time: 15-Dec-2014 7:46 AM
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http://www.trek.fm/standard-orbit/61

There's my podcast on this whole thing.

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Author: TV's Frink
Time: 15-Dec-2014 8:27 AM
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You did a podcast on Gargoyles?

Author: doubleofive
Time: 15-Dec-2014 9:03 AM
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TV's Frink said:

You did a podcast on Gargoyles?

Yes, I'm part of a Gargoyles podcast network.

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Author: Handman
Time: 16-Dec-2014 12:15 AM
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What do you guys think of this?

Star Trek: 50 Years of Humanism: http://youtu.be/Qe7axuTmoUg

Author: Tobar
Time: 17-Dec-2014 5:15 AM
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Bleh. This article...

Someone buy Star Trek from Paramount please...

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Author: doubleofive
Time: 17-Dec-2014 6:23 AM
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I'm believing about 15% of what badassdigest says. It really sounds like he's just making things up to make Orci sound like a monster because he doesn't like him personally.

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Author: Handman
Time: 22-Dec-2014 9:29 PM
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It appears as if that list wasn't too far off from the truth. Guys, meet the next director of Star Trek... JUSTIN LIN!!

Well, Star Trek isn't ever coming back, I guess I should try to accept that now.