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You're telling me you think something like THIS is better than that?

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Tobar said:

You're telling me you think something like THIS is better than that?

Yeah, sorry.  Sausages going in and out of the random orifices of singing Star Trek characters isn't really my cup of tea, LOL.

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At least there's some humor there. I'd rather watch two hours of that than Nemesis ever again.

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I wonder if Nog ever forgot he was living in a holodeck and went to the bathroom in Vic's hotel.

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I assumed there was a bathroom in the Holideck and it just vaporised his waist.

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DrCrowTStarwars said:

Yeah the way Warner Brothers treats B5 is a disgrace.  It didn't become as big as Star Trek after five years so they just gave up on it and now the show is slowly dying.  

 Didn't it get a spin-off, and a couple DVD movies?

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TheBoost said:

DrCrowTStarwars said:

Yeah the way Warner Brothers treats B5 is a disgrace.  It didn't become as big as Star Trek after five years so they just gave up on it and now the show is slowly dying.  

 Didn't it get a spin-off, and a couple DVD movies?

 The only spin-off was cancelled by JMS after the studio constantly wanted more violence and more sex. Two pilots for other spinoffs exist, none of them was green lit. The DVD movies suck

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There was only one DvD movie and it was so low budget it had a cast of less then half a dozen and two very small sets and almost no props.  It looked like one of Linkara's videos which is fine if you are one guy working out of your living room,it's not so good if you are trying to tell B5 style stories for mainstream viewers.

Also Crusade was canceled before the first episode air,the scripts and costumes were messed with by the network,and the episodes were aired out of order. The building blocks were there for it to be a really good series but it never stood a chance because of the way WB and TNT treated it.

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1 DVD movie? Which "one" do you mean - The Gathering? (technically the pilot, but it has 2 different versions, one served as pilot, the second one released on home video as a standalone film) In the beginning? Thirdspace? River of Souls? A Call To Arms? (technically a pilot to Crusade) The Legend of the Rangers - To Live and Die in Starlight? (technically a pilot to The Legend of the Rangers - unproduced spinoff) The Lost Tales? (technically a pilot to another unproduced spinoff)

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DrCrowTStarwars said:

I assumed there was a bathroom in the Holideck and it just vaporised his waist.

 I was under the impression that body waist was converted to energy, and then the molecules where re-arranged and converted into new useful things.

You know, converted into all those replicated hot fudge sundaes Deanna Troi  loves to eat.  

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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pittrek said:

1 DVD movie? Which "one" do you mean - The Gathering? (technically the pilot, but it has 2 different versions, one served as pilot, the second one released on home video as a standalone film) In the beginning? Thirdspace? River of Souls? A Call To Arms? (technically a pilot to Crusade) The Legend of the Rangers - To Live and Die in Starlight? (technically a pilot to The Legend of the Rangers - unproduced spinoff) The Lost Tales? (technically a pilot to another unproduced spinoff)

 A DVd movie is a movie made to be released on DvD first.  All of the movies besides the lost tales were produced for and aired on TV first,some of them when DvDs were only just hitting the market place for the first time. Most of the B5 movies aired just before or just after B5 finished it's run on TV. All of those movies aired on Tv before going to DvD,they were not made for the Dvd market just released on it after the fact.  As for The Lost Tales,yes it was a pilot but it was a pilot for a series that was mean to be released on DvD and nowhere else. So yes it is the only straight to DvD B5 movie.

If the B5 movies are DvD movies then so is every episode of every show that has ever been released on DvD.

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It's "waste", people, not "waist". Waist is that part of the torso which women always obsess over even when they're in excellent shape.

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FanFiltration said:

DrCrowTStarwars said:

I assumed there was a bathroom in the Holideck and it just vaporised his waist.

 I was under the impression that body waist was converted to energy, and then the molecules where re-arranged and converted into new useful things.

You know, converted into all those replicated hot fudge sundaes Deanna Troi  loves to eat.  

 Was that idea ever mentioned before that one episode of Enterprise?  I am not saying you are wrong or it wasn't I just can't remember that idea ever being brought up before and I am pretty sure I would have remembered something like that if I had heard it mentioned on the show when i was a kid.

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DrCrowTStarwars said:

FanFiltration said:

DrCrowTStarwars said:

I assumed there was a bathroom in the Holideck and it just vaporised his waist.

 I was under the impression that body waist was converted to energy, and then the molecules where re-arranged and converted into new useful things.

You know, converted into all those replicated hot fudge sundaes Deanna Troi  loves to eat.  

 Was that idea ever mentioned before that one episode of Enterprise?  I am not saying you are wrong or it wasn't I just can't remember that idea ever being brought up before and I am pretty sure I would have remembered something like that if I had heard it mentioned on the show when i was a kid.

 I think it may have been talked about in one of the Technical Manuals or other official reference books from the 70's or 80's. I'll need to dig around my storage shed to find it.

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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FanFiltration said:

DrCrowTStarwars said:

FanFiltration said:

DrCrowTStarwars said:

I assumed there was a bathroom in the Holideck and it just vaporised his waist.

 I was under the impression that body waist was converted to energy, and then the molecules where re-arranged and converted into new useful things.

You know, converted into all those replicated hot fudge sundaes Deanna Troi  loves to eat.  

 Was that idea ever mentioned before that one episode of Enterprise?  I am not saying you are wrong or it wasn't I just can't remember that idea ever being brought up before and I am pretty sure I would have remembered something like that if I had heard it mentioned on the show when i was a kid.

 I think it may have been talked about in one of the Technical Manuals or other official reference books from the 70's or 80's. I'll need to dig around my storage shed to find it.

 Ah that explains it.  Those books were written before I was born and I guess they wee never in any of my libraries so I never read them.

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DrCrowTStarwars said:

 Was that idea ever mentioned before that one episode of Enterprise?  I am not saying you are wrong or it wasn't I just can't remember that idea ever being brought up before and I am pretty sure I would have remembered something like that if I had heard it mentioned on the show when i was a kid.
In an episode of Enterprise I think they answer some kid's questions. That was one of the questions. Someone explained something about how it does get converted into useful things, like boots.

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twister111 said:

DrCrowTStarwars said:

 Was that idea ever mentioned before that one episode of Enterprise?  I am not saying you are wrong or it wasn't I just can't remember that idea ever being brought up before and I am pretty sure I would have remembered something like that if I had heard it mentioned on the show when i was a kid.

In an episode of Enterprise I think they answer some kid's questions. That was one of the questions. Someone explained something about how it does get converted into useful things, like boots.

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 This subject made me think of this > CLICKY

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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doubleKO said:

I wonder if Nog ever forgot he was living in a holodeck and went to the bathroom in Vic's hotel.

 As there are several episodes where characters are trapped in a holodeck simulation for a considerable length of time, I presume the plumbing works. ;)

I would presume food on a holodeck is real too.

On a related note, I always thought Sisko's objections to the Vic Fontaine program was odd and out of place. I never took it as a historically accurate depiction of 1960's Las Vegas, it's clearly modeled on an Ocean's 11 type movie fantasy Vegas. (The Sinatra one.) It's no more to be taken seriously than Bashir's spy program.

Where were you in '77?

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Yeah but the episode played it as if Sisko knew what he was talking about so they really needed to either say the program didn't reflect the time period or have it pointed out that Sisko didn't know what he was talking about.

It's a minor point in the long run,it just always stuck out to me.

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It was an issue Avery Brooks had that he wanted to address on the show himself. *shrug*

I thought it was dumb as well. =P

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Yeah as a history buff I spotted that when the episode aired and I was 14.  Sometimes you just need to tell an actor no.  For one thing Sisko had played Baseball with stars who came from racist times and never had a problem,so it was out of character him to let it bother him,and on top of that the problem that he was complaining about(Blacks not being allowed to stay in the hotels or gamble in the casinos)wasn't even a problem at that point in time.  So it was a dumb preachy scene that came out of nowhere and had nothing to do with the over all plot of a comedy episode.  It just felt strange and out of place.