DrCrowTStarwars said:
Mike O said:
DrCrowTStarwars said:
Yeah that is what killed Voyager for me. I could have put up with some of the stupid stuff but when a show seems to forget what it's own premise is from week to week,then it loses me. They never ran out of shuttles,or people,and no matter what went wrong it was always fixed next week. For a show that was supposed to be about being out on the edge and not having any back up they sure did play it safe. That is just sad. Voyager could have been the best Star Trek series and instead it is the only one I can not stand. Yes you read that right. There are parts of Enterprise that I like but Voyager's forgetfulness of it's own basic premise pushes it over the top for me.
If it were not for Holo Doc I don't think I could have stuck with it for seven years.
A friend of mine pointed out that the premise Voyager initially promised is actually more like what BSG eventually became: dark, ragtag ship on the run, etc. Is the new BSG series any good, by the way? It's up on Netflix, I'm curious.
Yes it is. I don't think it is the best sci-fi series of all time(I think they some times fell into the trap of making things dark for no other reason then making them dark and there were some soap opera elements in the latter seasons I didn't care for)but it is still a very good show and right off the bat I said to myself "This is the show Voyager should have been." There is a ton of good in the show(Even if some of the plot elements don't make sense) and I would say that everyone who is a sci-fi fan should give it a shot. Be warned it is a little like Lost in that nothing was planed from the start(You know I am starting to think B5 was the only sci-fi show that's plot arc was planed in any detail)so there are a few things that are never completely explained or when they are explained seem a little silly. Still if you can over look that I would say watch it. It is a very well done show and is very close to how Voyager should have been done. Check it out.
Sadly, B5 appears to be streaming absolutely nowhere. Which is a shame, since it can't grow an audience, and it damn sure isn't getting remastered as a result. I've not seen it yet for said reason, either.
pittrek said:
One technical question for you guys.
Why does season 4 of Enterprise looks so HORRIBLY WRONG? What happened? I know they changed from 35mm film to 1080p digital Sony cameras, but that doesn't explain why everything looks and moves so weird...
For 3 years of TOS, 7 years of TNG, 7 years of DS9, 7 years of VOY and 3 years on ENT we were used to the typical 35mm film @ 24fps -> video @ 30fps (or in my European case 25fps) look. Everything looked a certain way, everybody moved in a certain speed... Now suddenly everything looks like the Hobbit movies! The movement looks "faster", more "smoother" etc. I don't know if you guys know what I'm talking about but I hope at least somebody does.
I noticed the "effect" for the first time in 2006/7 when they broadcast Enterprise season 4 on TV here. I read online that they changed from film to digital, so I thought something went horribly wrong when they converted the footage from NTSC to PAL, that they've done something bad to the framerate and that's the reason why everything looks "faster". But now after I watched the whole season 4 on bluray I'm even more confused, the bluray videos run at 24fps, and the effect seems even more noticable and even more disturbing! It goes so far that I can't watch a whole damned episode without having breaks every couple of minutes. Or does it have to do something with the fact that the episodes suck? I don't know, but the overall effect is REALLY annoying and distracting.
Does anybody know what they did? I always thought that they filmed season 4 at 1080p/24fps. Now I actually start to think they filmed it in 1080i/60fps or something similar.
Back in the day, were TV shows shot at 24 FPS and then converted to 30 FPS for NTSC broadcast via pulldown?
