All Things Star Trek — Page 24

Well, actually, in ST09, I got the impression they made Kirk and Spock central, with heaping helpings of Scotty because he's Simon Pegg and Uhura because she takes her clothes off with everyone else secondary.

But while Kirk, Spock, and McCoy were central, the stories I've read usually involve Shatner petitioning to take away the moments the other characters had for himself.  Or that a shot would be set-up to highlight a certain actor, Shatner would pull the director aside, and when they came back, it was Shatner being focused on.  Now, I'm not sure how true that is, but I did recently notice a striking difference between the earliest episodes and everything that came after.  If you look at episodes like "The Man Trap," "Charlie X," and "The Naked Time," you'll see lots of scenes that focus on the other characters and shipboard life.  Scenes without Shatner.  But very quickly, those fade away.  Now whether that's Shatner's fault or just a shift in focus by the writers or network, I don't know.

Hahaha, it's all so true!  But I did especially love the, "And go ahead and pick up some humpback whales.  That'll save you a lot of trouble."

darth_ender said:

Bearing in mind that I enjoyed Into Darkness, I give you the Honest Trailer:

http://www.trektoday.com/content/2013/08/star-trek-into-darkness-honest-trailer/

Very funny.

Oh man that was accurate.

I could have sworn there were less lens flares this time around?

I thought the lensflares were about the same. After the backlash from 'Star Trek', I was hoping he'd have toned it down on 'Into Darkness' but he probably wanted to keep a continuity to the look... at least that's what I hope. Because I don't want them anywhere near EpVII

The bridge has so many darn lights it would be difficult not to have lens flares.

I feel sorry for unlucky crewman who suffers migraines on their duty shift in there. It would make going on a landing party seem like an attractive option. ;)

Well, isn't this just fucking special? Hopefully not a harbinger of things to come about the further death of and disinterest of studios in physical media, but I I'm thinking that too. But in the meantime, just fuck you, Paramount. Fuck you sideways.

Link isn't working for me.

I presume it's about the Itunes version of STID coming out ahead of the DVD and Blu Ray?

No, I'm fine with that, it's about the iTunes version having extras they're omitting from the Blu-Ray version.

www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/082813_1415

And I wholeheartedly agree with him about Paramount being so uncaring about the much-needed director's cuts.

This has been a bit of a trend with music for a while. I was pretty annoyed when some tracks from the Tron Legacy soundtrack were not on the CD. They were only on Itunes, or a limited edition 2 disc set overseas that became Ebay fodder. I want the whole damn score, dammit!

Clearly, someone at Paramount have been hitting the Romulan ale to come up with a greedy, asinine idea like this, and piss off the fans.

pittrek said:

What a bunch of assholes. I'm definitely NOT buying the Bluray unless they release a PROPER version of it.

Sadly I'm probably with you. Was looking forward to STID on BR but I can't support treating fans like this. Maybe I'll wait 'til it shows up second hand then my hands stay clean. Audio commentaries are a deal maker/breaker for me. I'll buy any Ridley Scott film (Even the ones I hate) if he's included a commentary (He usually does) because they are so good. Same for Coppola and Scorsese and JJ's commentary on ST2009 was great. Sad face.

Games are going the same way with the last one I played being the new 'Tomb Raider'. A superb game (One of the best ever infact) that never the less left a sour taste in my mouth. It came with zero unlockable bonus content (Like skins, weapons, maps etc) for achieving anything. All of which were available day-one to pay for.

But when I discovered you had to pay a fee to take the game to 100% completion, I was absolutely disgusted. Like turning the page to the last chapter of a book and finding a white page with the words "F*ck you pay me" typed in middle.

SilverWook said:

This has been a bit of a trend with music for a while. I was pretty annoyed when some tracks from the Tron Legacy soundtrack were not on the CD. They were only on Itunes, or a limited edition 2 disc set overseas that became Ebay fodder. I want the whole damn score, dammit!

Clearly, someone at Paramount have been hitting the Romulan ale to come up with a greedy, asinine idea like this, and piss off the fans.

What I find especially peculiar about it is that you'd think they'd be doing the opposite. Not only is physical media the collector's market, but it's also more expensive. Wouldn't they want to put the extra stuff there to offer more incentive?

pittrek said:

What a bunch of assholes. I'm definitely NOT buying the Bluray unless they release a PROPER version of it.

If they do, of course. And he is 100% right about the director's cuts that're still MIA on Blu-Ray too. And if they didn't come out to coincide with this, we aren't likely to them at any point in the future. Maybe if a third film comes out or for the 50th anniversary in 2016 (which is a ways out), but doubtful.

Ryan McAvoy said:

pittrek said:

What a bunch of assholes. I'm definitely NOT buying the Bluray unless they release a PROPER version of it.

Sadly I'm probably with you. Was looking forward to STID on BR but I can't support treating fans like this. Maybe I'll wait 'til it shows up second hand then my hands stay clean. Audio commentaries are a deal maker/breaker for me. I'll buy any Ridley Scott film (Even the ones I hate) if he's included a commentary (He usually does) because they are so good. Same for Coppola and Scorsese and JJ's commentary on ST2009 was great. Sad face.

Games are going the same way with the last one I played being the new 'Tomb Raider'. A superb game (One of the best ever in fact) that never the less left a sour taste in my mouth. It came with zero unlockable bonus content (Like skins, weapons, maps etc) for achieving anything. All of which were available day-one to pay for.

But when I discovered you had to pay a fee to take the game to 100% completion, I was absolutely disgusted. Like turning the page to the last chapter of a book and finding a white page with the words "F*ck you pay me" typed in middle.

100% agree. What I find especially worrisome about it is that with physical media quickly dying, maybe Paramount and Microsoft are just ahead of the curve and are the fist to make unpopular decisions. Look, I'll pay more for this stuff. I'll pay more for imports. I bend over backwards to do these things legally. And this is the thanks I get? To say nothing of the horseshit of an iTunes version, which I can't watch anywhere except my computer or an APPLE TV, since, they won't let me put the damn thing I paid for through the streaming on my Blu-Ray player.

Johnny Ringo said:

What a dick move.

This sort of thing will end up hurting themselves as it will encourage piracy.

I'm hoping that there'll be a double-dip six months down the line (Something I never thought I'd hear myself say!), or a disc from another region that has everything, but my biggest concern is that neither will happen.

Jay, update the forums, quite apart from a search function that actually works, we need a multi-quote button!

Tobar said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

But when I discovered you had to pay a fee to take the game to 100% completion, I was absolutely disgusted. Like turning the page to the last chapter of a book and finding a white page with the words "F*ck you pay me" typed in middle.

I just looked into this. There are just a couple areas that can't be fast traveled to that can be hard to find. DLC doesn't count at all toward the percentage toward completion.

I've got all the pickups, camps etc in the game 100% but it's getting the achievement trophys that give a game replayability and two of them are for buying uprades online. Needless to say I didn't buy them.

Another example would be the otherwise excellent 'Arkham City' that has parts of the actual game missing (Catwoman, Robin etc) if you've don't purchase them seperately online or buy the right exclusive version at the store. Not to mention day one maps, skins, weapons, challenges.

I love it when (Like with 'Fallout') expansions get released 6 months later to extended the game. No problem paying for that extra content. But increasingly games are finished, have 10% cut out of them then are released. Then you are expected to pay again to buy back that 10%.

The way to do it is like with 'Prometheus', where there was a bog standard edition with more less just the film and a deluxe one with all the content. I happily paid the extra for the deluxe release and spent hours enjoying it all.

Mike O said:

SilverWook said:

This has been a bit of a trend with music for a while. I was pretty annoyed when some tracks from the Tron Legacy soundtrack were not on the CD. They were only on Itunes, or a limited edition 2 disc set overseas that became Ebay fodder. I want the whole damn score, dammit!

Clearly, someone at Paramount have been hitting the Romulan ale to come up with a greedy, asinine idea like this, and piss off the fans.

What I find especially peculiar about it is that you'd think they'd be doing the opposite. Not only is physical media the collector's market, but it's also more expensive. Wouldn't they want to put the extra stuff there to offer more incentive?

If I had to wager a guess it's because the profit margin on digital media is much higher.  Once the product is made, there's no production cost.  They want people to jump ship to digital media, so they're offering that medium the incentive.