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You had me at “no CGI or AI implementations used in the edit as fixes.” Count me interested!
Well, a mostly Rook-Free Alien Experience… mostly. Aside from two scenes of his prone, immobile and unspeaking half-torso, face-down on the floor, it turns out the character of Rook can be removed from the plot of Alien: Romulus with zero effect! Andy can also save Rain without needing to steal Ellen Ripley’s best lines! This edit is an alternate cut of late Summer 2024’s breakout horror hit, with some of the more egregious “memberberries” trimmed from its tree, along with an answer to the biggest question about it’s release: “Did they really have to do that?”
It’s not too radical a cut beyond that, though. The oft-described “big swing” ending featuring The Offspring is still intact, for example, and there are no CGI or AI implementations used in the edit as fixes. Aside from the edit’s main calling card (the aforementioned de-Rooking) the bulk of the remaining changes are a few second act sequences getting trimmed/slightly rearranged, some dialog removal (largely as part of the un-Rookifying, but sometimes not!) and some score re-edits.
The finished (I know that’s tempting fate with any fan-edit, but I’m feeling pretty safe in calling it finished) version of Alien: Romulus - Alternate Cut is now ready and available. If you grabbed the original version about a month ago, good news: the link you grabbed it from has already been updated with v2, so all you need to do is redownload, and the final version is yours. If you lost that link, or never reached out for it in the first place, well hey: The PMs are open and the edit is also listed at Fan Edit Central currently (FanEdit org soon, maybe?) so it should be pretty easy to find the contact info.
There’s been about 1-2 more minutes of changes across the film total between the last version and this one, including some edit fixes, some rearrangement of shots/scenes, and some audio enhancements and score additions. Thanks to everyone that gave their feedback, it was very, very much appreciated, and helped greatly with this revision.
You had me at “no CGI or AI implementations used in the edit as fixes.” Count me interested!
Haha! Aside from the fact I don’t have any experience in either of those things, it would have been pretty weird to use either of those tools when the point of the edit was to excise a character who could only exist because of those tools.
The craziest thing about Rook as he stands in the movie – aside from the fact the initial concept was apparently a woman synthetic who was (maybe?) a physical version of MU/TH/UR (initially intended to be played by Phoebe Waller-Bridge!), and aside from the fact Alvarez spent most of the PR trail pre-release, talking at length about “real sets” and “practical effects” despite knowing the whole time that primary villain of the movie would be a CGI+AI resurrection of a deceased person – is that Rook is the cause of a weird, ugly sort of metatextual dissonance going on. Especially considering the end of the movie, which is just one big reference/callback to Alien: Resurrection.
The foundational horror of Alien: Resurrection - such as it is, the movie is pretty goofy mostly - is that Ripley has been resurrected and turned into a thing, completely outside her control. She was not asked if she wanted to be brought back, she had no say in it, and she probably would not have agreed to have been brought back as that no matter how good a basketball player she became as a result! But that choice was never hers, the giant corporation that bought the corporation that essentially ruled her life in the first place, decided they weren’t done exploiting the Alien financially, so here she is. Back from the dead.
Romulus does this to Ian Holm in real life. For basically the exact same reason! And what’s even crazier is that when all is said and done it’s not even necessary to the story to have done this at all. It’s a weird, and expensive (!) exposition-laden distraction from the story of Rain and Andy, and nothing Rook says or does isn’t done by Andy himself, in a much more succinct and interesting way. You can cut Rook out of the movie completely and not only does it not hurt the movie, it arguably (hopefully!) improves it. It certainly removes that weird dissonance (and bad VFX work) at the very least.
This is related to your post above rather than being about your edit work specifically. Just wanted to say I sent that deeper-look post to some film buddies of mine it was so funly insightful (“Romulus does this to Ian Holm in real life.”)…one of the better things I’ve read with movie analysis lately!
That’s all for this. Have a fun Halloween!
LightWave = fun times with gfx for me 😃
Hey, glad you dug the post! And you have a Happy Halloween too!
Bumping for updated OP + final version + changelist
It has definitely more power than the original, I liked it very much!
Nice job, mate.
Hey, thanks for giving it your time and a fair shake! I’m glad you enjoyed it 😃
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deleted this post as you answered my questions already over on fanedit.org
I appreciate the poster designs! They’re definitely the part of this I was not thinking/expecting to be fumbling with so much, LOL. I’ve got a couple ideas I’m poking at myself, I’ll post one here later tonight when I get one in shape (I think I’m close)
The red one with the dripping chin was a base I was thinking of working from, absolutely. My first thought was using the Dolby Vision poster (the facehugger crawling over Rain’s helmet) too. I might go back to it, but I figure I should at least try something
Okay, this is what I was kicking around for the poster idea
That is very nice. In keeping with past posters and gives me Alien/Alien3 vibes. I would say that big chap doesn’t reflect the actual movie very much though, especially your edit.
You weren’t wrong! Also I just… don’t think my design chops are that great. The idea’s okay but I don’t know that my execution of it is solid enough for people to be slapping up on their Plex or Jellyfin or Emby or whatever, LOL. So instead I think I’m gonna go with this and call it the final:
It’s taking the ScreenX alternate poster (The Scorched variant, not the Helmet one), reframing/recoloring slightly, and setting it inside the border of the Matt Ferguson alternate poster, also slightly recolored and altered to fit the “Alternate Cut” subtitle into the block. I think it works a little better not just as a quick visual at smaller and larger sizes on a screen, but like you said, it’s a little more representative of the cut itself. The chrysalis is the first thing you see in the movie, but that poster design is basically a callback in and of itself, and nothing much more than that, which is counter to the point of the edit. So - thank you for the critique! This is a better choice.
Love that.
I think you might be a genius. This is such an improvement in pacing and your scene edits are seamless. I think this film works so much better without Rook, and without the almost 4th wall breaking “get away from her” line. Did you also remove the close up shot of the Reebok shoe that lingers just a bit too long? I can’t remember seeing it in this watch through.
The one cut I found a little jarring was the cut to Andy announcing he has one directive after Navarro wakes up from being face-hugged, but I guess this the best option when editing out an entire character.
I think there is an error on one line of the subtitles. When the gang first see the station at around 17:40, the line “Fuck, that’s big. What is that?” has an incomplete font tag.
Anyway, please ignore any negatives; this is a brilliant edit. I love it!
DAMN! Thanks so much for saying that, and for taking time out of your holidays to check this edit out, too! Very, very much appreciated 😃 - I did in fact remove the Reebok closeup, as part of getting rid of Kay’s self-injection scene/ending giveaway.
That one cut is… yeah, you nailed it - it’s the best option of getting out of that room without Rook in it. I kinda worked backwards from the progression of the “One Directive” shifting over the course of the movie already, and figured that without Andy stopping to talk to Rook after the Corbelan crash (where the “one directive” first starts breaking down actually), I’d need to imply/allude to the module rewriting him pretty rapidly before that. I cut some lines in the previous scene (i.e. “for what purpose I do not know”) and added music to his preventing Rain from trying to pop his module out to hint at this even more strongly than the theatrical already does.
BUT: the real reason I’ve got him up at the front of the room obliquely being confusing/ominous about his One Directive isn’t story-based, I gotta admit. It’s geographical. It’s because without Rook, I need to have a reason to have him separated from the group (the original version of the scene has him huddled down there with them when Navarro comes to), and saying SOMETHING that will cause the whole group to look at him, and specifically Rain to look really shook and Navarro to go “what is he talking about” - and puts him in the position, geographically, to move across the room and intercept Bjorn. And… it’s not 100%. It’s the one knot in the pine board I can’t sand out, haha. I got nothin really, when people call it out, other than “yeah - well spotted! that’s the one.”
I was hoping the deleted/alternate scenes would give me something that I could work with there, but nada. I have heard that for people who aren’t very familiar with the movie, they don’t really question that transition, it just seems like Andy doing weird shit and they roll with it - which helps a little, but considering 99% of the audience for this is probably going to be people who have seen the movie a couple times… LOL.
ANYWAY: Thank you so much for the subtitle spot, that’s been cleaned up, fixed and remuxed - if you redownload at the link you got this from, the file should be updated to the fix now. Thank you SO MUCH for that. And for this feedback. Enjoy the rest of your Christmas Day!
Hi this is so cool. How can I watch your edit? Sorry new to this and not sure if you actually edited the film or its a script. Either way it’s so cool good work
Ryrhino, here on this site in this forum you will find only actual movies/videos edited, never someone offering just a screenplay re-edit (that I can recall anyway). The semi seed for this site’s ‘Star Wars Fan Edits’ and ‘Other Properties Fan Edits’ forums was The Phantom Edit decades ago, an anonymous editor’s release of a fixed version of The Phantom Menace. That fully watchable Star Wars movie edit was the first wide-spread case of fan editing released to the public, became rather famous, and this website/forum was on the heals of that, with other people doing their own Star Wars movie edits…leading to other fan edits of other properties/franchises such as Alien as you see here with Broom Kid’s Romulus edit. (That’s a simplification, details might not be 100% correct.)
Probably more info than you needed, but it felt like it wouldn’t hurt to say it out so, so there you go. 😃
How can I watch your edit?
Broom Kid might see your post above and contact you, but if he hasn’t soon and/or you don’t want to wait for such then click his user name above and start a private topic to him making your request. I PM’d him a while back and he’s a great guy as far as I see and seems eager for people to enjoy his great fan edit work so you should go for PM’ing him 😃
LightWave = fun times with gfx for me 😃
Hi WXM,
Thank you for your detailed reply and informing me about the site! I appreciate it! 😃 I’ve been looking for a site like this for so many years!not sure how i only just stumbled upon it! 😃
I’ll definitely shoot him a message. Hope you have a nice evening. Ryan
Great pacing, wouldn’t know a thing is missing. Thanks for including subtitles too. This will definitely be the version for rewatching in the future.
JFS
Hey There.
A great poster and a brilliant concept.
Is there a link you can share to the re-edit video?
Best Regards
M