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This was just cruel
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Abyss in HD? — Page 2
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Yeah, a little too late to announce an “early 2017” release!
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It might come out this year. True Lies is the one I’m worried won’t see the light of day anytime soon. I think Cameron might be dragging his feet on that one to be politically correct. He made a comment a while back about how terrorism isn’t funny or lighthearted “anymore”, which is ridiculous to say, but whatever. Maybe he’s dragging his feet on Abyss too.
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Well, one thing to note is Bill Hunt has mentioned it a couple times recently as coming soon. So who knows?
I’ve actually never seen it; it only came to my attention about a year ago. But with the Blu Ray supposedly imminent, I decided not to watch one of the renowned sci fi films on window boxed dvd.
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I think that Cameron is the holdup because he has to approve transfers of his movies, which I’m assuming he hasn’t done for whatever reason. I think that we’ll see Abyss before True Lies though, if anything just because he’s talked about being excited to restore that one in the past. Maybe he’s just too busy pretending to make five Avatar sequels.
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After how the colors in his approved Aliens transfer turned out, I’d be a little worried about Abyss. Well, at least it’d give the guys in the Other Preservations board something to play with.
What, a man builds a giant mound of dirt in his house and you aren’t entertained?
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I’m not worried because I don’t care about theatrical colors. I thought the Aliens colors looked fine.
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So long as it looks natural. As if anyone actually has a memory of what the colors looked like when they saw a movie in theaters 20+ years ago.
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Prints are also different from each other, and 25 years later don’t necessarily look the same. It’s why they always bring the directors in if they can to supervise restorations.
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Fox is probably just waiting to put it out on 4k as well.
While we’re on the subject of True Lies, I find it interesting that burying his own movie in non-anamorphic dvd quality is yet another thing Cameron shares in common with Lucas. He already made digital changes (albeit subtly) to Titanic and Aliens after calling the Star Wars SE “a revision of history.”
I’m sure True Lies will eventually get a new release as well. Maybe Cameron can record a “special introduction.” Remember how he did that for the sci-fi channel broadcast of The Abyss back in the 90’s?
I do wonder though if Cameron would have the power to halt any release of True Lies on a new format entirely. I’ve heard he insists on signing off on any new transfers of his movies (Aliens was the only movie not given a new transfer for the Quadrilogy set in 2003 since it was already anamorphic and therefore “good enough”). Then again, Fox did take the hd transfer they made for the cancelled “five-star collection” dvd release and put it out on d-theater.*
There’s also an open-matte 16:9 version that’s been playing on cable recently, presumably from an even newer transfer. The AFI Silver even screened a 35mm print as part of a 90’s series within the last couple years. Fox doesn’t seem that embarrassed by it.
*You wonder why they didn’t just quietly reissue it on dvd with the newer transfer, for those of us who cared about quality. I’m guessing they stopped pressing new copies entirely post-9/11? Yet they still put out the d-theater! Where could you even buy those things anyway?!
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I believe Cameron has approval privileges with his movies, which he could hold off on to halt new transfers, but not necessarily old ones or TV ones. I really couldn’t tell you. I do know that True Lies has had all of the bonus features made for its blu ray release already, but it isn’t out yet for no reason.
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Aliens is available in both cuts on the BD.
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Aliens is available in both cuts on the BD.
Yeah but it’s still not 100% the original unaltered version because Cameron couldn’t help himself / leave well enough alone and made a few “fixes” like erasing Lance Henricksen’a visible torso in one shot of the final scene. In the scene where Ripley and Newt are stuck in the room with the facehugger and Ripley tries slamming a chair against the window, visible marks on the glass from previous takes were erased for the bd. I’ve heard other shots were tinkered with but never seen definitive before-and-after screenshot comparisons. It’s not even the '86 version editorially since there was actually an editing error when Ripley pulls a couple different guns from the rack that was correctly reordered for the blu-ray.
The color-timing doesn’t bother me, though. I saw a photo from a 16mm print and it actually looks closer to the blu-ray.
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That’s not on the same level as the Star Wars special editions.
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That’s not on the same level as the Star Wars special editions.
I know your statement is an unpopular one in most corners of this site, but it’s true, and furthermore it applies to 99% of the things people complain about here.
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Yeah I don’t really care about fixing little mistakes. For instance, even erasing Indy’s face from the glass in Raiders doesn’t bother me. It removes a moment that takes you out of the film. Isn’t this one of the reasons we hate the SE revisionism, because it has a tendency to take us out of the universe of the film?
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I prefer things to be left untouched, but the thing is, a lot of the minor errors corrected for blu ray are things that would actually be significantly more visible on blu ray than they were in theaters decades ago. Blu-ray is not an exact replication of the theatrical experience. The marks on the window in Aliens is something that I’ve never noticed, and would never have known about if I hadn’t been told, and are also genuinely something that were not meant to be in the movie. Would I prefer that they weren’t deleted? I guess, but do I care? No.
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Do we know who’s idea that was (erasing the snake pit reflection)? Spielberg has said he regrets ever making the SE of E.T. and said back in 2012 that all new releases of his existing films going forward would be completely unaltered.
I’m assuming they erased the reflection yet again for the 2012 4k master. Was the 2003 dvd the first time they meddled with it or is it gone on the laserdisc as well? In any event, I’m guessing it was George’s idea.
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Do we know who’s idea that was (erasing the snake pit reflection)? Spielberg has said he regrets ever making the SE of E.T. and said back in 2012 that all new releases of his existing films going forward would be completely unaltered.
I’m assuming they erased the reflection yet again for the 2012 4k master. Was the 2003 dvd the first time they meddled with it or is it gone on the laserdisc as well? In any event, I’m guessing it was George’s idea.
I wasn’t aware that George had anything to do with the blu-ray of Raiders.
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Also, the reflection in Raiders is nothing in comparison to the ET Anniversary Edition or the SW SE.
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Fox is probably just waiting to put it out on 4k as well.
While we’re on the subject of True Lies, I find it interesting that burying his own movie in non-anamorphic dvd quality is yet another thing Cameron shares in common with Lucas. He already made digital changes (albeit subtly) to Titanic and Aliens after calling the Star Wars SE “a revision of history.”
I’m sure True Lies will eventually get a new release as well. Maybe Cameron can record a “special introduction.” Remember how he did that for the sci-fi channel broadcast of The Abyss back in the 90’s?
I do wonder though if Cameron would have the power to halt any release of True Lies on a new format entirely. I’ve heard he insists on signing off on any new transfers of his movies (Aliens was the only movie not given a new transfer for the Quadrilogy set in 2003 since it was already anamorphic and therefore “good enough”). Then again, Fox did take the hd transfer they made for the cancelled “five-star collection” dvd release and put it out on d-theater.*
There’s also an open-matte 16:9 version that’s been playing on cable recently, presumably from an even newer transfer. The AFI Silver even screened a 35mm print as part of a 90’s series within the last couple years. Fox doesn’t seem that embarrassed by it.
*You wonder why they didn’t just quietly reissue it on dvd with the newer transfer, for those of us who cared about quality. I’m guessing they stopped pressing new copies entirely post-9/11? Yet they still put out the d-theater! Where could you even buy those things anyway?!
I saw them in at least one brick and mortar store that was selling the decks. Might have been Sears. (IIRC, there was a website that also sold the tapes.) I saw D Theater tapes pop up later on in discount stores that still had a ton of VHS inventory that few were buying even at two bucks each.
I wonder how many people got their hands on a D-VHS deck without the D-Theater logo and then found out it wouldn’t play the D-Theater tapes?
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So it’s happening . . . maybe . . .
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/081517-1345
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He’s been saying that crap for years. If he has such little time for it he should just let a trusted member of his crew or production supervise the transfer and then Cameron could look at it and approve it.
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disregard
And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.
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So it’s happening . . . maybe . . .
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/081517-1345
James Cameron said:
“I’m working on that. The True Lies Blu-ray and the Abyss Blu-ray have sort of fallen off my to-do list, getting one, not two, but four Avatar sequels stood up and going.
In the time it’s taking him to do any of this, I could’ve made four movies of me just rolling my eyes and released them in 4K.
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