Abrams is Destroying Star Trek like Lucas has Destroyed Star Wars — Page 4

While I get what you're saying, take note that I did mention his human blood several times in my last post.  Just saying...

IT COULD BE THAT SPOCK HAS HAD TO TIME TRAVEL BACK TO THAT POINT, AND HE HAS TO STOP KIRK FROM DOING SOMETHING.  THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM.

A very old Spock is the time traveller. I could go into spoiler territory here, so I'll shut up now!

And if what I read is correct, there's a pretty honest reason why young Spock would be a little pissed at Kirk!!

Is it just me or is Simon Pegg the Jar Jar of JJ Trek.  " I like this ship it is exciting".  Awful.  The casting person should be fired the only casting they did right was Nimoy.

The guy who designed the new Enterpise should be fired the Design is just ugly looking. 

They have that dude from Harold and Kumas as Sulu.  Sylar as the Young Spock and a Dude who looks like he would be on the cover of teen beat a magazine my sister used to read as young kirk.  He also looks  too Young to be Kirk.

90210 Trek. Smallville Trek. OC Trek you get the picture.  the bridge looks like the Apple people called it the ibridge.  ipod-erprise.lol

I wish they skipped the Academy Days and instead filled in the Missing Chapters of the First Five Year Mission, or the Period that Lead up to the Motion picture the second five year mision.  They could have gone retro Like the movies 1-6 and it would have been cool.  I would love to see the enterprise from the Undiscovered Country on Screen again.  Too bad they sold it at auction the dumbasses decided to go cgi.

Believe it or not i would Prefer a Manny Coto Produced Enterprise Movie over this or even a fifth season of that show.  JJ wrong person for Star Trek.  Going to be the second time they picked the wrong guy.  Last time was on Nemesis some Stuart Baird guy who should have been directing something like James Bond and not Star Trek.

I don't get how a guy who did MI3 a spy movie is supposedly the go to person for a sci fi movie.  Unless they are going the route of stupid action movie dressed up as sci fi.  If we have enough naked chicks, cgi and explosions nobody will notice.lol

Nicholas Meyer did not seem like the right choice either but he understood good drama and the classics of Literature.  He understood characters and the human element in the story. 

JJ never stays with any project.  He has much more experience as a producer than a director or story writer.  He supervised most of Alias, Lost etc.  He very much is the George Lucas type who likes to have other people direct or write his ideas for him.  I would be willing to bet if this picture is sucessfull he will hand the next movie to a hand picked director he chooses like he did with Cloverfield.

I would guess the new movie is a lead in to a five picture series or more.  If not that much it will be a trilogy like the new batman is supposed to be.  Paramount also wants to Bring Star Trek back to tv as a live action series and also possibly an animated one.  But this film has to be sucessful for them to even have a chance of happening.

Even if the tos fans hate this movie they pretty much have to embrace it.  Bring their friends and family to see it multiple times.  It is the only way new trek will happen.  If this thing Bombs Paramount would be well within its rights to never spend a dime on the series again.

skyjedi2005 said:

Is it just me or is Simon Pegg the Jar Jar of JJ Trek. "I like this ship it is exciting".  Awful. 

I know. I really like Simon Pegg, at first I thought the idea of him playing Scotty was a bit odd, he just doesn't seem to fit, but then when I got used to the idea I thought it would be pretty cool. Now that I have heard him speak in the trailer... uh... err... must... reserve... judgment... until... release date... arrrg...

skyjedi2005 said:

Even if the tos fans hate this movie they pretty much have to embrace it.  Bring their friends and family to see it multiple times.  It is the only way new trek will happen.  If this thing Bombs Paramount would be well within its rights to never spend a dime on the series again.

Then so be it.  If this turns out to be a terrible Trek, I'd rather see it bomb than see it be successful and watch Trek turn into yet another teeny bopper flick.  Trek is better than that.  Trek's success should not hinge on whether the "tween" crowd wants to see this or not.  It should hinge on it being a good story or not.

Johnny Ringo said:

skyjedi2005, they aren't making this movie for you. They are maknig it for people who go to see blockbusters. Star Trek as it stands is dead. They are catering to a fresh crowd with fresh dollars in their pockets.

 

 

A crowd that doesn't normally give a crap about Trek anyway.  So they're going to insert lots of action and some sex into a Trek film.  It'll be yet another blockbuster of the week that everyone will forget about a month after it's released.

C3PX said:

skyjedi2005 said:

Is it just me or is Simon Pegg the Jar Jar of JJ Trek. "I like this ship it is exciting".  Awful. 

 

I know. I really like Simon Pegg, at first I thought the idea of him playing Scotty was a bit odd, he just doesn't seem to fit, but then when I got used to the idea I thought it would be pretty cool. Now that I have heard him speak in the trailer... uh... err... must... reserve... judgment... until... release date... arrrg...

Simon Pegg sucks.  Spaced was great, so was Shawn of the Dead, but now he's just annoying.  In England if you say 'Simon Pegg' people groan.  It will be this way in America before long too.

lordjedi said:

skyjedi2005 said:

Even if the tos fans hate this movie they pretty much have to embrace it.  Bring their friends and family to see it multiple times.  It is the only way new trek will happen.  If this thing Bombs Paramount would be well within its rights to never spend a dime on the series again.

Then so be it.  If this turns out to be a terrible Trek, I'd rather see it bomb than see it be successful and watch Trek turn into yet another teeny bopper flick.  Trek is better than that.  Trek's success should not hinge on whether the "tween" crowd wants to see this or not.  It should hinge on it being a good story or not.

Some people would rather Star Trek not exist than be reimagined.  That just blows my mind.  This isn't Lucas, JJ is not gathering all of the hundreds of hours of Star Trek that existed before and throwing it out.  They're trying to get people interested in it again.  More people will be willing to take the cheesy little 60's science fiction show we love so well a bit more seriously, maybe focusing on the characters instead of the cliches they came to be.

If this movie is successful, I honestly believe people will give old Trek a chance again, not dilute the franchise or anything so silly.  The new movie will not take away your old ones.  It looks like an alternate universe/timeline anyway, so anyone can ignore it if they choose to.  But some of us are excited to be able to talk with their friends about Star Trek without looking like anti-social outcasts.  Star Trek either goes mainstream, or it withers and dies like it has been for years.  I'd rather it be mainstream.

But that's just me.

Well looky what we have here!

A little something extra in the trailer!! http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39238 It's at the end! You trekkies out there better get the tissues ready!!

HotRod said:

Well looky what we have here!

A little something extra in the trailer!! http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39238 It's at the end! You trekkies out there better get the tissues ready!!

 Wow! Looks pretty fucking awesome to me!

Nimoy as spock, about time they showed that Considering that is the only thing they are doing right about this movie.  I miss shatner, but he has nothing to do with this Spock story.

William Shatner is now quite available since Boston Legal's last episodes are done and to be aired.

Too bad they cannot shoot something and just stick him in there as Kirk somewhere like in the credits or something at the end.

Zachary Quinto should be quite available for sequels as i hear heroes might get cancelled.

If your analogy refers to to the prequels of star wars as a flower they deserve to wilt and die because they sucked as movies and so will this movie trek 90210.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfv4hBXPzSM&eurl=http://trekmovie.com/2008/11/19/star-trek-trailer-spawns-parodies/

this star wars prequel recut to trek audio from the trailer is lol funny!

skyjedi2005 said:

Is it just me or is Simon Pegg the Jar Jar of JJ Trek.  " I like this ship it is exciting".  Awful.

"I know this ship like the back of my hand."  Clang!

Yeah, like that was any better.

Touche!  I guess all you can say is that Scotty's a wee bit silly no matter which universe you're coming from!

doubleofive said:

lordjedi said:

skyjedi2005 said:

Even if the tos fans hate this movie they pretty much have to embrace it.  Bring their friends and family to see it multiple times.  It is the only way new trek will happen.  If this thing Bombs Paramount would be well within its rights to never spend a dime on the series again.

Then so be it.  If this turns out to be a terrible Trek, I'd rather see it bomb than see it be successful and watch Trek turn into yet another teeny bopper flick.  Trek is better than that.  Trek's success should not hinge on whether the "tween" crowd wants to see this or not.  It should hinge on it being a good story or not.

Some people would rather Star Trek not exist than be reimagined.  That just blows my mind...

Its about dying with dignity. Something to do with letting sleeping dogs die. Whips and dead horses, all that crap. Who knows, fans are wacked, screw em and move on. They care too much about things for their own good. The studios/producers/powers that be who care nothing about any given franchise beyond how much dough it can rake in, they're the ones who know what is best for a series, and are interested in keeping its integrity, they are good people willing to whore out their assesets, and that is why they win. To succeed you must be willing to whore out, whore out yourself, whore out your daughters, whore out your wives. Whore out whatever you can, it tis the way to go.

doubleofive said:

If this movie is successful, I honestly believe people will give old Trek a chance again, not dilute the franchise or anything so silly.

Ha!  This just floors me.  If this movie is successful, why on earth would they even go back to old Trek?  They'll take one look at it and thumb their noses, just like they do right now.

But some of us are excited to be able to talk with their friends about Star Trek without looking like anti-social outcasts.  Star Trek either goes mainstream, or it withers and dies like it has been for years.  I'd rather it be mainstream.

If people treat you like an outcast because of the movies you like, then they're not worth talking to.  Seriously, depending on what you're discussing, there's no reason for that kind of shit.  Seeing the latest Trek flick with cool explosions and hot chicks in skimpy outfits isn't my idea of seeing a Trek film.

So yes, I'd rather see Trek die than see it go mainstream in order to capture an audience that isn't going to give a shit about it a year or 5 years from now.  I'd rather see it die than see it become the "blockbuster of the week".  Like C3PX said, it's about dying with dignity.

I'm sure it'll be successful though, based solely on the guy playing Kirk.  He'll bring in all the tween and teenage girls, just like the guy in Twilight.  And the young sexy chicks will bring in all the jocks.  So it'll definitely go mainstream, but conversations will be limited to "OMG! He's so hot!" instead of "I wonder how this is going to play out in the next movie?"

skyjedi2005 said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfv4hBXPzSM&eurl=http://trekmovie.com/2008/11/19/star-trek-trailer-spawns-parodies/

this star wars prequel recut to trek audio from the trailer is lol funny!

 

 Wow, that trailer makes the prequels look interesting again!