C3PX said:
Vaderisnothayden said:
C3PX said:
As for me, I am still the old fashioned sort that doesn't believe in cursing in front of ladies, and since I have the unfortunate tendancy to let one slip on these forums ever now and then, I like to assume this is a mostly estrogen free zone (with the exception of vbangle, who I believe is made up entirely of estrogen; and who will never know I said this about him because he has me on ignore).
Why would women be any less able than men to handle cursing around them? I can see no reason why anybody should curse any less around women than around men. And there's nothing "unfortunate" about cursing. There's nothing wrong with cursing whatsoever.
"Wrong" is very relative term. There is nothing wrong with a lot of things, but I'd still prefer to refrain from them.
The bottom line is cursing offends some people, and from that stand point I'd, personally, prefer to avoid it. By cursing in my posts, to some degree, I alienate fellow users who find it offensive. It also has the tendency to sound very uneducated. When you hear someone who curses every other word, do you think to yourself, "Wow, this individual is a master communicator"? Probably not. I often hear someone curse and think to myself how stupid they just sounded, and realize I probably sound just are retarded as they did when I curse. Again, I do it myself, so I am not condemning anyone. I just have a huge amount of respect for people who do not.
As for not cursing in front of women, you are right, there is really no reason they couldn't handle it any less than anyone else, it is just an old fashion courtesy and a sign of respect. I still stand when someone enters the room as well, so yeah, I am pretty lame like that. I have held onto these kinds of things since I was a teenager; I think I only started doing them because nobody else did, and my parents never taught me to do them. Probably just part of my youthful desire to be different than everyone else.
In our culture, we have reached the point were swearing is so common place, that to me anyway, that it comes off as pretty lame and not as bold, cool, and "badass" and the speaker intends. I guess the thing that makes cursing "cool" is that it is a "nonconformist" sort of thing to do. Society says swearing is bad, so every would be rebel out there does it. Presently, society seems to accept swearing to a good degree. It is no longer the taboo that it used to be. Case in point, I can drop the "f-bomb" on this forum, and no one complains; but I say it is "unfortunate" that I have a habit of cursing, and I am immediately called to the mat. Today, maybe not swearing would be far more nonconformist than intentionally mistaking the f word as a necessary form of verbal punctuation.
"The bottom line is cursing offends some people, and from that stand point I'd, personally, prefer to avoid it."
They're offended because they choose to be offended. They could just as easily choose to be more open-minded and not get offended. If somebody's offended by swearing that's their problem. It's not a reason why other people should have to censor their speech.
"It also has the tendency to sound very uneducated. When you hear someone who curses every other word, do you think to yourself, "Wow, this individual is a master communicator"? Probably not. I often hear someone curse and think to myself how stupid they just sounded, and realize I probably sound just are retarded as they did when I curse."
Well, that's dumb. I don't go making stupid assumptions about people's intelligence or education when I hear them swearing. I know that swearing has nothing to do with education or intelligence. I don't have a hangup about intelligence and education and I'm not worried about how educated or intelligent I sound, so I don't worry if swearing will make somebody think something about my level of education or intelligence. Swearing does not lessen communication and it is no evidence of a lack of ability to communicate. It's rather dumb to think it is. I've never thought somebody sounded stupid just because they cursed. But when I hear people criticising swearing I do tend to think "What a narrow-minded stick-in-the-mud".
"As for not cursing in front of women, you are right, there is really no reason they couldn't handle it any less than anyone else, it is just an old fashion courtesy and a sign of respect."
Old fashioned sexism, really. Ultimately therefore a sign of DISrespect.
"In our culture, we have reached the point were swearing is so common place, that to me anyway, that it comes off as pretty lame and not as bold, cool, and "badass" and the speaker intends. I guess the thing that makes cursing "cool" is that it is a "nonconformist" sort of thing to do. Society says swearing is bad, so every would be rebel out there does it. Presently, society seems to accept swearing to a good degree. It is no longer the taboo that it used to be. Case in point, I can drop the "f-bomb" on this forum, and no one complains; but I say it is "unfortunate" that I have a habit of cursing, and I am immediately called to the mat. Today, maybe not swearing would be far more nonconformist than intentionally mistaking the f word as a necessary form of verbal punctuation. "
Swearing is not about being cool or badass or nonconformist. It's about putting vigour and expression into your speech in a way that is not duplicated by other methods. I don't see why swearing being commonplace should make it lame. People saying "hello" is commonplace too, but that doesn't make it especially lame.
"Case in point, I can drop the "f-bomb" on this forum, and no one complains; but I say it is "unfortunate" that I have a habit of cursing, and I am immediately called to the mat."
With good reason. When you swear you just express yourself, but when you express disapproval of swearing you condemn the actions of others.
"Today, maybe not swearing would be far more nonconformist than intentionally mistaking the f word as a necessary form of verbal punctuation. "
Being anti-swearing is being narrow-minded and overly conservative.
"It is no longer the taboo that it used to be."
Yes it is. Here we can swear, but on many internet forums swearing isn't allowed at all. Off the net, society still applies plenty of disapproval in many countries. Very narrow-minded attempts to censor swearing are all over the place.
