This all blew up while I was away from the boards and has been locked down since I've been back. I have like everyone here been waiting for confirmation from Jay of the information that DAYV promised to send him.
While it's true that DAYV didn't request money he did describe a terrible situation (a treatable but otherwise terminal illness that was not being addressed because of lack of funds).
I suggested a thread like this because DAYV had done similar things for other members in crisis and it had some success.
Warb stepped up to the plate and started the thread.
With that call for help on this site it was hopefully inevitable that people would begin to try to raise the funds DAYV says he needs.
For a long while (going by the information DAYV gave us) there were only two people making donations.
Jay sent out his email in good faith and the number of donations increased which represents the generosity and compassion of people here that on nothing but trust they will give not only money but time and effort.
I was one of the many people who repeatedly asked DAYV to make some sort of evidence available, not because I didn't trust him but because, taking him at his word. he needed to raise a lot of money fast to get legitimate treatment (not apricot seeds and vitamins but radio or chemotherapy).
When you trust someone there is always the possibility they are not telling the truth, it would not be trust if you knew for certain they were telling the truth, trust is an act of faith in the words and intentions of another person.
If someone feels their trust has been betrayed that can be much worse in some circumstances than being out of pocket.
Like a number of people here I have a bit of time on my hands because I can't work anymore.
I have limited funds but when I read DAYV's posts I felt his needs were greater than my own and gave what I could.
My father died of cancer at around the age I am now and when I was DAYV's age I became seriously ill and almost died myself.
In my country the medical care that gave my father a good fighting chance and saved me are free of charge at the point of need because it's paid for out of taxation.
So when I read about DAYV I thought this was an opportunity in some small way to give something back.
When I first read doubts creeping in on this thread my heart sunk.
Either DAYV is still telling the truth and he still needs help to cure his cancer but he is less likely to get it now because of the shadow cast here or he hasn't got cancer (which is a relief) but he is so troubled that he needs attention and/or money enough that in desperation he will lie about something so painful to get it.
In either case it's tragic.
There is a side possibility that DAYV is just an evil jerk who will use any means necessary to get what he wants, I still don't believe that.
I've asked him in PM's before and I'm asking him here publicly, David if you do not have cancer now is the time to tell us .
If you were in a dark place and for whatever reason desperate for cash and in a spell of despair conjured up this story, face the music.
It will be hard and some people may never forgive you but I promise you it will eventually do you the world of good.
If you really have got cancer and I really hope you haven't but if you do find out how much it would cost to get another written verification from your doctor and I'll pay for it on the understanding that the actual document goes straight to Jay who can then send it back to you.
You don't need voodoo and vitamins will only go so far, you need proper medical attention and that costs money.
When you are sick and depressed handling paperwork can be tiring and having people doubt your story humiliating but it's understandable with so much fraud around that people will have doubts and if you are to raise the funds you need those doubts need to be lifted.
If you need other help, help with dealing with financial or emotional problems coming clean about that will open doors.
Burying your head in the sand will get you nowhere.
Whatever the case you have my sympathy and my best wishes.
I have been sent the same documents that Jay received and I can confirm they are exactly as he described.
It would be more conclusive if they were more detailed, dated and signed and I repeat my offer to pay for a dated letter confirming Dave's diagnosis which I feel would go some way to putting some donors and potential donors natural concerns to rest.