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ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE?? — Page 7

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Originally posted by: JediRandyAnd Mike O, I'm not attacking anyone... I'm just debating. I'd love a good version as well.


Then you're fine by me. I just wonder if we'll ever get one. Hasn't the September DVD set sold reasonably well? I mean it was in Amazon.com's top ten for a while. I can't see LFL saying that there's no market for it. Not quite as big a market as some other things perhaps, but I'd imagine that there's a considerably large group of people who'd pay for a restored OOT DVD set. I don't imagine that LFL is financially hurting from this set . I just wonder if it'll come out while Lucas is alive, or while I am alive.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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Originally posted by: Mike O
Originally posted by: JediRandyAnd Mike O, I'm not attacking anyone... I'm just debating. I'd love a good version as well.


Then you're fine by me. I just wonder if we'll ever get one. Hasn't the September DVD set sold reasonably well? I mean it was in Amazon.com's top ten for a while. I can't see LFL saying that there's no market for it. Not quite as big a market as some other things perhaps, but I'd imagine that there's a considerably large group of people who'd pay for a restored OOT DVD set. I don't imagine that LFL is financially hurting from this set . I just wonder if it'll come out while Lucas is alive, or while I am alive.


We'll see... if there's ever a time for it, it'll be the big 6 movie box set....
"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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Those are my thoughts as well. There is a signifigant amount of people who want the OOT restored, yes, but as this September's sales numbers indicated, there are not that many people aware that they got gyped. It would make sense, if Lucas actually is going to restore it this time, to make us pay a lot of money for it.
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Originally posted by: JediRandy

The OOT is on DVD and, if it's as in demand as it's made out to be around SW message boards, it'll be available once again with the proper aspect ratios, etc... if LFL has proved anything its that they'll release anything as long as there is a demand for it.


"If" it's as in demand? "If"?!

I'm guessing you don't really understand how large the Star Wars fanbase is. Even if the poeple who would like to own a high-quality, dedicated release of the theatrical versions comprise only a small minority of Star Wars fans, you're still talking about easy money. Of course, this assumes that George Lucas would give a shit enough to put his stamp of approval on something with effort and care put into it (which a dedicated, nerdy fanbase would require). DVD technology is capable of a lot, and the theatrical release of Star Wars and its two sequels deserve what that technology that can give us.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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Originally posted by: JediRandyWe'll see... if there's ever a time for it, it'll be the big 6 movie box set....

I keep hoping that, but I doubt it. All I can do is pray and hope.

"If" it's as in demand? "If"?!

Sales do seem to have dropped on the GOUT.

I'm guessing you don't really understand how large the Star Wars fanbase is.

I think that he does .

Even if the poeple who would like to own a high-quality, dedicated release of the theatrical versions comprise only a small minority of Star Wars fans, you're still talking about easy money.


Yes, but the quesiton is, will Lucas allow it? Is his hatred of the OOT stronger than his desire to make money? After, the kind of people whom he could market that too are the kind of people who would spend any amount of money on a boxed set with films that they don't want just to get the restored OOT. That's why the boxed set would be perfect and dovetail with all of the circumstantial evidence like the MTV interview, SW.com's "searching the archives" comment, the testing the waters theory, and what I just mentioned. I just don't want to get my hopes up and have them crushed, because I can't see it happening.

Of course, this assumes that George Lucas would give a shit enough to put his stamp of approval on something with effort and care put into it (which a dedicated, nerdy fanbase would require).


I think it's just a case of him giving the go-ahead for a restoration. He wouldn't have anything to do with it regardelss other than say whether or not it can be released.

DVD technology is capable of a lot, and the theatrical release of Star Wars and its two sequels deserve what that technology that can give us.


And we'll still probably have to fight for years of HD discs, if we get them at all .

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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Last year, they painstakingly restored the lost version of a movie called Major Dundee from 1965. They even created a completely new orchestral score from scratch. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the demand and profit potential for Star Wars '77 is equal to or greater than Major Dundee.
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Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
Last year, they painstakingly restored the lost version of a movie called Major Dundee from 1965. They even created a completely new orchestral score from scratch. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the demand and profit potential for Star Wars '77 is equal to or greater than Major Dundee.


Yes, but would Lucas allow it? That's the clincher. And that was amusing. Thank you. I hope you're right.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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Randy its true that every single optical effect was recomposited digitally in 1997. They did this to eliminate matte lines and dupe grain. They accomplished it by digging up the original bluescreen elements and plates, scanning both and then re-comping them. Its even detailed in the recent "what has changed" feature on the official site. Every single special effect has been digitally altered.
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Originally posted by: zombie84
Randy its true that every single optical effect was recomposited digitally in 1997. They did this to eliminate matte lines and dupe grain. They accomplished it by digging up the original bluescreen elements and plates, scanning both and then re-comping them. Its even detailed in the recent "what has changed" feature on the official site. Every single special effect has been digitally altered.


How does this relate to replacing models with CGI? Can you remove Mat lines from around a model without replacing them?

(which is what I thought we've been talking about all along)

"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: zombie84
Randy its true that every single optical effect was recomposited digitally in 1997. They did this to eliminate matte lines and dupe grain. They accomplished it by digging up the original bluescreen elements and plates, scanning both and then re-comping them. Its even detailed in the recent "what has changed" feature on the official site. Every single special effect has been digitally altered.

How does this relate to replacing models with CGI? Can you remove Mat lines from around a model without replacing them?

(which is what I thought we've been talking about all along)


He was explaining to you how something that you thought was a contradiction...

Originally posted by: JediRandy
Wow... earlier 80% of the models were deleted now "all of the optical effects have either been recomposited digitally or deleted altogether."


...was actually two different things. Recomposited digitally does not equal deletion.

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Originally posted by: Jumpman
We have no idea what Lucas does on the Ranch.


Nope, we don't.

And I personally hope it stays that way.
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