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A summary of GOUT-sourced Custom DVDs

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[Video frames from the versions listed below can be compared here.]

December 2007 - The Lucasfilm Pwnage Edition - Moth3r

Availability: SW only
Size: 4.37GB (SL)
Video processing:
anti-aliasing, luma curve adjustment, colour saturation increase and hue tweak (towards yellow), light grain filtering and sharpening (all in AviSynth)
Audio Options:
     '93 remix (from LD PCM)
     '77 mono mix (from Belbucus restoration)
     '77 Dolby Stereo mix (from LD analogue cap)
Extras: static menus with audio
Wiki page: LINK
Forum thread: LINK
 


July/September (V1/V2) 2009 - Star Wars Trilogy Theatrical (GOUT sourced) - dark_jedi

Availablity: SW, TESB and RoTJ
Size: 6.43GB, 6.57GB & 6.90 GB (all DL)
Video processing:
used an earlier version of g-force's AviSynth script, see below. V2 has layer breaks at different chapters, different positioning for the Greedo and Jabba subtitles in SW and RoTJ, and the implementation of a fix for the jerkiness in TESB's "magic tree" scene.
Audio options:
     '93 remix (from LD PCM)
     '93 remix (from LD PCM) upmixed to 5.1
     '77 mono mix (from Belbucus restoration) on SW disc
Extras: none
Wiki page: n/a
Forum thread: LINK


September 2009 - GOUT image stabilized - g-force

Availability: SW only
Size: 4.37GB (SL)
Video processing:
Aliasing removal, stabilization (gate weave removal), black level & gamma adjustment, increased colour saturation, colour hue tweaked towards yellow, grain filtering and sharpening (all in AviSynth)
Audio options:
     '93 remix (from GOUT DVD)
Extras: none
Wiki Page: n/a
Forum thread:
LINK


May 2010 - Star Wars 1977 Theatrical Release - EditDroid

Availability: SW only
Size: 6.73GB (DL)
Video processing:
Overall luma curve adjustment, local contrast adjustments by spatial frequency bands (to smooth grain & sharpen detail), colour saturation decrease (all in Photoshop)
Audio options:
     5.1 mix, based on the 2004 DVD, patched with portions of a 4.0 upmix of the '93 mix
     '77 mono mix (from Belbucus restoration)
Extras: full-motion intro & menus, technical description of video/audio work
Wiki Page: n/a
Forum Thread: LINK


December 2010 - The Rebellion Collection - MattmanOmega

Availability:  SW, TESB, and RoTJ, plus supplements discs
Sizes:

      SW - 7.44GB
      SW Supplement - 3.72GB
      TESB - 7.16GB
      TESB Supplement - 3.97GB
      RoTJ - 7.91GB
      RoTJ Supplement - 3.53GB
      Bonus Disc - 4.11GB
Video Processing:
In AviSynth - Noise reduction, aliasing removal, some gate weave reduction, and 16x9 upscaling.
In VirtualDub - Hue and saturation adjustment, black and white levels adjustment, mild additional noise reduction.
In Sony Vegas - stabilizing of opening "Lucasfilm" and "A long time ago" cards, plus addition of '81 SW opening for chapter-branching function.
Audio Options: 
SW
     '93 remix (from "Definitive" and "Faces" LDs)
     '93 5.1 upmix (using V.I. Stereo To 5.1 Converter)
     '77 mono mix (from Belbucus restoration)
     '77 Dolby stereo mix (from '85 CAV full screen LD)
TESB
     '93 remix (from "Definitive" and "Faces" LDs)
     '93 5.1 upmix (using V.I. Stereo To 5.1 Converter)
     '80 Dolby stereo mix (from '85 CAV full screen LD)
RoTJ
     '93 remix (from "Definitive" and "Faces" LDs)
     '93 5.1 upmix (using V.I. Stereo To 5.1 Converter)
     '83 Dolby stereo mix (from '86 CLV full screen LD)
Extras:  Full motion disc intros, DVD credits on each disc, both '77 and '81 versions of SW via chapter-branching function, one DVD of supplements for each film, plus an added bonus disc.
Wiki Page: n/a
Forum Thread: LINK


February 2011 - GOUT V3/MBE - dark_jedi

Availability: SW, TESB and RoTJ
Size: all DL
Video processing:
Used latest version of g-force's stabilization script, with additional colour adjustments
Audio options:
SW
     '77 70mm 6-track reconstruction (from hairy_hen's audio project)
     '77 Dolby Stereo mix*
     '77 mono mix (from Belbucus restoration)*
     '85 home video remix*
     '93 home video remix*
TESB
     "Purist" 5.1 mix (from hairy_hen's audio project)
     '80 Dolby Stereo mix*
     '93 home video remix*
RoTJ
     "Purist" 5.1 mix (from hairy_hen's audio project)
     '83 Dolby Stereo mix*
     '93 home video remix*
* not included on the MBE versions, which use a higher bitrate for the video encoding
Extras: static menus with audio
Wiki Page: n/a
Forum Thread: LINK


Original Trilogy Replica Technicolor Project - LeeThorogood 

Availability: SW only (other 2 planned)
Size: DL
Video processing:
Based on g-force's AviSynth script, additional color adjustments have been made using Apple Color in an attempt to replicate reference photographs from a screening of a Technicolor "dye transfer" Star Wars print. More info here: http://savestarwars.com/technicoloribscreening.html
Audio options:
Belbucus' Theatrical Audio Track encoded as Dolby Surround/Pro Logic at 448kbps
French audio track from NTSC GOUT DVD (unmodified)
Spanish audio track from NTSC GOUT DVD (Unmodified)
Extras: unknown
Wiki Page: n/a
Forum Thread: LINK

 

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Moth3r said:

The "not 720p, and not from a laserdisc" edition

Catchy. ;-)

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Thanks for this, Moth3r.

I've created remastered x264 versions of each of these films using g-force's scripts. I'm interested in adding several different audio mixes to each of my x264 films and am trying to find out what audio mixes are available for each of the three films. Could you possibly list them in this thread? What are the best mixes/differences between them that are worth adding to each film? I download hairy_hen's recently completed SW 70mm mix today and am trying to source Belbucus' SW 77 Mono Mix (if anyone can PM links to this, I would appreciate that). I gather that for each film the Stereo PCM mixes ripped from the 93 LaserDiscs are considered better than the GOUT stereo mixes, is this correct? Are there anymore mixes available?

Thanks.

www.bardothodol.net

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I love having all of the audio options, but is g-force's a lot better than dj's gout-sourced and the pwnage?

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As far as video quality is concerned, dj is using g-force's scripts to remaster the GOUT for his releases. His v2 of the films use an older version of g-force's scripts but I believe he is going to do a v3 using g-force's most current and best filter scripts. g-force has developed and improved upon the video filtering used by Moth3r in his pwnage edition. If you are wanting a DL DVD version of the remastered GOUT then dj's versions would be good for you, but if you are wanting to use g-force's scripts to remaster the video and encode to some other format other than MPEG2, like myself, then you would be best doing the Avisynth processing yourself.

www.bardothodol.net

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pupil said: if you are wanting to use g-force's scripts to remaster the video and encode to some other format other than MPEG2, like myself, then you would be best doing the Avisynth processing yourself.

That's a thought!  Encoding the lossless AVI produced by the scripts to h.264 should look appreciably better than MPEG-2.  Is there any chance that you could make an MKV available?  If so, please PM me. :-)

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Chewtobacca: Yep, higher quality (no extra MPEG2 artefacts) and more importantly I have IVTC'd the films so they play at 23.976 fps, so no horrible 3:2 pulldown anymore!

I'll try and make my x264 mkvs available once they're done. I created versions last year using v4 of g-force's scripts, but will be re-doing them with his latest scripts (including RotJ when he releases that). I also hope to collect all of the available mixes for each film (in FLAC for the 2.0 mixes and AC3 for the 5.1 mixes). I'll post when they're ready, could be a few months away yet though.

www.bardothodol.net

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That is excellent news, pupil.  What with the unexpected release of Adywan's theatrical restoration of ESB, it is ROTJ that I am most interested in now. 

Thank you for your efforts.  I shall eagerly await the results.  :-)

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Chewtobacca said:

That is excellent news, pupil.  What with the unexpected release of Adywan's theatrical restoration of ESB, it is ROTJ that I am most interested in now. 

Seconded.

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GOUT/Pwnage/ED sw77:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Moth3r/custom/th_orig1-1.png  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Moth3r/custom/th_new1-1.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Moth3r/custom/th_ed-1.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Moth3r/custom/th_orig2-1.png  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Moth3r/custom/th_new2-1.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Moth3r/custom/th_ed-2.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Moth3r/custom/th_orig3-1.png  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Moth3r/custom/th_new3-1.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Moth3r/custom/th_ed-3.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Moth3r/custom/th_orig5-1.png  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Moth3r/custom/th_new5-1.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Moth3r/custom/th_ed-4.png

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That's a nice breakdown of all custom DVD's so far, will come very handy. Thanks.

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Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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msycamore said:

That's a nice breakdown of all custom DVD's so far, will come very handy. Thanks.

Indeed!  This makes things a LOT easier to keep clear.  Thanks.

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With thanks to Darth Mallwalker, I've now added screenshots of g-force's DVD and DJ's V1 to the comparison page here. As you would expect, the image is almost identical, just some slight differences in the cropping. It should be noted that a still shot alone doesn't show you g-force/DJ's stabilized wobble, which is a deal breaker for some.

Can anyone help fill in the MattmanOmega and DJ V3 release details & screenshots? Also planning on adding Lee's technicolour project when complete.

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pupil said:

I also hope to collect all of the available mixes for each film (in FLAC for the 2.0 mixes and AC3 for the 5.1 mixes). I'll post when they're ready, could be a few months away yet though.

For any audio that is lossy there would be no gain from a FLAC conversion if they are 320kbps or below.  All it would do is make the file size bigger.  Just a thought anyways. 

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Moth3r said:

 

Can anyone help fill in the MattmanOmega and DJ V3 release details & screenshots? Also planning on adding Lee's technicolour project when complete.

I've got the MattmanOmega set burned already...which screen caps would you like to see available?

 

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I actually used a different set of shots for the Custom DVD comparison.

http://moth3r.heliohost.org/dvd-screens.htm

Frames 4626, 5130, 7255, 11070, 26317 and 70943.

Jetrell, can you use DGIndex to export the raw frame as a BMP?

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Moth3r said:

I actually used a different set of shots for the Custom DVD comparison.

http://moth3r.heliohost.org/dvd-screens.htm

Frames 4626, 5130, 7255, 11070, 26317 and 70943.

Jetrell, can you use DGIndex to export the raw frame as a BMP?

Okay, I figured out myself how to use it....only issue is there were like 2 shots I think where I couldn't get at the exact frame but I have all 5 .bmp's.

Where would you like me to post them?

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Thanks for the offer of help, if you could put all the shots into one zip file and upload them somewhere that'd be great.

The shot above is the wrong frame - you might need to add 15 onto each frame number to account for the blank cell at the beginning of the first VOB file. Also can I have the untouched 720x480 screens, so that I can resize them using exactly the same method as the others for consistency?

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Moth3r said:

Can anyone help fill in the MattmanOmega and DJ V3 release details & screenshots? Also planning on adding Lee's technicolour project when complete.

I can fix the DJ V3 for you if someone else haven't done that already?

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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Moth3r said:

Thanks for the offer of help, if you could put all the shots into one zip file and upload them somewhere that'd be great.

The shot above is the wrong frame - you might need to add 15 onto each frame number to account for the blank cell at the beginning of the first VOB file. Also can I have the untouched 720x480 screens, so that I can resize them using exactly the same method as the others for consistency?

You have a pm.

:)

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msycamore said:

Moth3r said:

Can anyone help fill in the MattmanOmega and DJ V3 release details & screenshots? Also planning on adding Lee's technicolour project when complete.

I can fix the DJ V3 for you if someone else haven't done that already?

Yes please.

JF - thanks.

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