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A Palpatine-less Edit of The Rise of Skywalker — Page 2

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“I’ll probably try color-grading the film as well.”
Yes, please do that would be great.

I really enjoyed this by the way. It’s far superior to Theatrical. I’m no expert with audio but it seemed like one channel would come and go at different times during the movie.

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I’m not sure why the audio would do that. I used stereo audio for the initial cut but I’ll be doing it with surround sound for the next version.

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So, question. Here is Kylo Ren finding the fleet on Exegol.
https://vimeo.com/422046686
Password: kyloren

Is Papa Palp’s voice too audible? I muted out the center channel whenever he speaks, but there is a little reverb in the surround channels. Does it come across as ambiance or do I need to cut these scenes further?

I’ve seen and listened to it so many times I can’t be sure if I can make out dialogue or my mind is filling in what it knows is supposed to be there.

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joshuabri said:

So, question. Here is Kylo Ren finding the fleet on Exegol.
https://vimeo.com/422046686
Password: kyloren

Is Papa Palp’s voice too audible? I muted out the center channel whenever he speaks, but there is a little reverb in the surround channels. Does it come across as ambiance or do I need to cut these scenes further?

I’ve seen and listened to it so many times I can’t be sure if I can make out dialogue or my mind is filling in what it knows is supposed to be there.

It sounds like ambient mumbling or something by the cultists, so it’s fine, I guess

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Palpatine’s voice isn’t a problem in that scene. With Kylo finding an old Empire fleet, I wonder if that rumored title “Ashes of the Empire” would work for this edit?

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Thanks for the feedback.

Since I don’t think I’ve posted it publicly yet, I will now. I have decided the title is going to be Duel of the Fates. Adobewan was kind enough to create a title crawl for me already, so it’s pretty much locked in.

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Hit me with a link please. I’m really curious to see your project. Thanks!

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Sorry, version 2 isn’t finished yet. After completing V1, I spent some time actually learning how to use my video editor and only recently began undertaking V2. This is the first video editing project I’ve ever done by the way. I think the hours of tutorial videos were worth it. Even when I’m making the same cuts as in V1, I feel the cuts are noticeably cleaner in V2. I will send a link whenever it’s finished.

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joshuabri said:

Sorry, version 2 isn’t finished yet. After completing V1, I spent some time actually learning how to use my video editor and only recently began undertaking V2. This is the first video editing project I’ve ever done by the way. I think the hours of tutorial videos were worth it. Even when I’m making the same cuts as in V1, I feel the cuts are noticeably cleaner in V2. I will send a link whenever it’s finished.

Send me a link, too, please! Really excited about this edit when it comes out.

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I thought there wasn’t any deleted scenes.

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It’s from the TROS documentary.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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Yes it’s technically not a deleted scene, just additional shots that were part of the documentary when they are spotlighting D-O. It takes some work to clean it up. The film footage is letterboxed on all four sides so had to be zoomed by 34% throughout; one shot had to be zoomed significantly more so to crop out the puppeteers. There is upbeat comedic music playing throughout in tone with the documentary; I think every shot had either Daisy Ridley or J.J. Abrams talking over either the beginning, end, or the entire clip. I removed all of that as best I could while keeping the squeak, then added a piece of music to mask the little that remained.

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I’m hitting a wall trying to Frankenstein new lines for Leia and Poe. I’ve spent hours manipulating the pitch, tempo, and volume of the words but can’t get it quite there. Does anyone have any expertise in this area?

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So how does Kylo find out about the Fleet ? How does Rey find out what Kylo knows & whats her new quest exactly ? Does Kylo need a new fleet ? Wouldnt it make more sense if he was searching out perhaps rumored Dark Siders / Force Users or something like that ? Or better yet instead of Palpatine himself how about rumored Palpatine descendants

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Panakin said:

So how does Kylo find out about the Fleet ? How does Rey find out what Kylo knows & whats her new quest exactly ? Does Kylo need a new fleet ? Wouldnt it make more sense if he was searching out perhaps rumored Dark Siders / Force Users or something like that ? Or better yet instead of Palpatine himself how about rumored Palpatine descendants

I’m wondering if some of these could be answered in the crawl to help solve character motivation problems when cutting stuff out in the edit.

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Panakin said:

So how does Kylo find out about the Fleet ?

The fleet is essentially supposed to be an urban legend that Kylo Ren, as Supreme Leader, had the resources to find.

How does Rey find out what Kylo knows & whats her new quest exactly ?

The Resistance finds out about the fleet through the First Order spy, so their quest is to find Exegol and destroy the fleet before Kylo unleashes it on the galaxy.

Does Kylo need a new fleet ?

According to my revised crawl, the galaxy is rebelling against the First Order, so he needs the additional warships to maintain control.

Wouldnt it make more sense if he was searching out perhaps rumored Dark Siders / Force Users or something like that ? Or better yet instead of Palpatine himself how about rumored Palpatine descendants

I’m not sure how those would make more sense. He finds a massive fleet of ships there, but none of those things. One would have to just assume he abandoned his search for any of those things without any context.

Thanks for the input. It’s always good to step back and question the bigger picture. It’s easy to get bogged down with obsessing over the minutiae.

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This is intriguing, please share a link? Thanks!

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Here is the revised Ahch-To scene. I am still working on some of the transitions, but this is how it plays out in my version. I’m still not sure about the line “If you don’t face Palpatine, it will mean the end of the Jedi.” If I can’t get it a little better, I might take that line out.

https://vimeo.com/425828845

I haven’t decided the exact placement yet, but it will be either right after Lando and Chewie rescue Finn and Jannah from the crashing Destroyer or just before the return to Ajan Kloss for the victory celebration. I currently have it situated after Finn and Jannah’s rescue.

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Hey man, could you hit me with the link?

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fidodido said:

How is your V2 coming along?

As of earlier this week, the “workprint” of V2 is done, meaning all of the cuts and restructuring has been done. I still have to spend 2 hours to sit through it looking at it with a big-picture-view to see if anything isn’t working as it should, where transitions need to be improved, and if I need to adjust the placement of any scenes. The major hurdles still to be overcome are 1) manufacturing new dialogue to clear up some plot changes. This has proven harder than I anticipated and I don’t expect to have this ready for a while yet. 2) I’m still waiting for an FX shot that someone agreed to do for me.