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A Palpatine-less Edit of The Rise of Skywalker (Released) — Page 6

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Could I get a link, please? I’m really looking forward to seeing this.

(BTW: Did you see if it was possible to edit in a shot of Ben from Pasana as he’s walking towards Rey at the end of the film? I know you were trying to see about a way of getting him there at the end.)

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Link sent. I don’t think I was ever trying to add Kylo to the Tattooine ending. I’m not a fan of implying an abuser/abusee relationship became healthy. If it was clear he was there to help train the next generation of Jedi though…

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joshuabri said:

Link sent. I don’t think I was ever trying to add Kylo to the Tattooine ending. I’m not a fan of implying an abuser/abusee relationship became healthy. If it was clear he was there to help train the next generation of Jedi though…

Ah, see I never thought their relationship abuser/abusee and find that take – that is so prevalent – something I’ve never understood. (I can go on about it, and did originally, but figured this isn’t the place for it.)

Regardless, someone had suggested that shot of him helping to atone for his sins in the thread which is why I mentioned it.

Thank you for the link. (Actually, erm, I can’t find it! Wah!) I really do look forward to watching this. I’m going to try this weekend. 😃

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Odd. The private topic I started with you isn’t showing in my list of conversations. I tried twice more from my phone this morning, but each time when I refreshed the list, it still wasn’t there. The last two attempts are showing on my computer now though, so you should have the link (twice).

I will admit that the physical abuse was relatively short and minor. However, he also used clear emotional abuse tactics of trying to make her feel isolated and worthless to everyone but him. I respect your opinion. Everyone sees things in their own way. I don’t want to change anyone’s opinions, I’m just letting people know the way I see it and why I decide to include or not include something.

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I got it this time. Thanks.

I think the whole time 'You’re nothing, but not to me" has been misread. He isn’t saying you’re nothing as in “pfft, 'you’re nothing!” But more as in, he’s someone who supposedly has everything. He’s literally from two different lineages of royalty. A prince of Naboo, and a prince of Alderaan. His mother is the famous General Leia Organa-Solo. His father General Han Solo. His Uncle Master Jedi Luke Skywalker. He is currently the galaxy’s most powerful known Force wielder. There are all of the expectations on him. So he is “everything.” And it means nothing to everyone. He has felt abandoned, alone and unloved his whole life. That is what he meant by that line. She is an orphan, with no name (hah!) that no one knows about with no expectations. He (in a very bad way) was saying he didn’t care about that. Even though she didn’t have a name or any of the lofty background credentials that he did, she still was super important to him. Kylo/Ben had been with Snoke since his mid-teens had been emotionally abused by him. That is the only way he knew how to express affection, caring, love.

But, anyway. Yeah.

I do have the link now. YAY! Thank you! 😄

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Wow! Sounds absolutely amazing in fixing my two biggest issues with this movie!

Would love a link!

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Hello there! May I have a link, please? The Palpatine-less concept as well as the other edit ideas sound terrific. Thank you!

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Could I get a link, sounds very interesting!

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So I finished watching the edit I think over all it’s a damn solid edit. Some of the edits, dubs, and transitions are a tad awkward in places but what a great edit. Seeing Palpatine no where near this film is already great. Good job my friend.

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Thank you! It turned out a lot better than I initially hoped it would when I first started this last year. A lot of that is due to ideas and work from others, so thank you to all who helped influence and create this edit.

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This sounds like extraordinary work. I would love to see this! Thank you for your efforts!

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I’d love a link for this. Palpatine added into the movie was really my biggest issue with it and really is an insult to Return of the Jedi I think. It’s an awesome idea to make Kylo the main villain and the entire Mcguffin is the quest to find the fleet. I’m REALLY curious how you end the movie though if Kylo just dies in the lightsaber duel or what happens. Thanks for all your hard work making this!

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Wow, this was really great. It’s amazing how much more focused the whole movie is without Palpatine. He literally slows down the momentum of the original movie and just feels shoehorned in. Overall job well done. Just a few personal thoughts on this cut:

  1. Personally I would cut the Kylo Ren vs Vader fan made scenes at the beginning. Sure it looks cool but I don’t really think it fits, and the scene would flow well enough without it. Ren finds Exegol, the new fleet emerges.

  2. I really liked the squeaky wheel scene. Well done.

  3. I’m not a fan of Chewy blowing up at all. I think he could just be captured, the team is sad about it and they take off. Then they find him later. But maybe you need it for plot line that Rey killed her parents.

  4. I would recommend cutting out the take turn team speech before the battle. I think you trimmed it so it’s better but personally I think the whole thing is cringe. A montage of them all getting ready for the battle with music would be better I think.

  5. Things at the end of the third act after the star destroyers start blowing up gets a little muddled but I really don’t know what can be done about that. Maybe others have suggestions.

  6. I like that Rey isn’t alone at the end but personally I would swap the group shot and the flying off into the sunset shot so it ends with the falcon flying off into the sunset. I think it would fit the musical score better.

I’d just like to say this is my favorite cut of this and I think it greatly improves upon the film. It’s really impressive and I enjoyed it a lot.

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Thanks for the feedback. I’m glad you enjoyed this edit.

The Kylo vs. Vader fan film was an addition requested by a several people. I can see strong reasons both for and against it. I could go either way with it, but it seems most people prefer it included.

The shuttle explosion could definitely be cut, but it has some drawbacks. Namely, it removes Rey’s principle dark side moment which undercuts her belief that she could actually fall to the dark side.

I don’t think I would cut out the entire pre-battle speech. The runtime is already cut down pretty far, and I think that would also add to the frenetic pacing of this movie if it’s just the short montage. I might look at trimming the speech a little more in the next edit, though.

I too felt the ending would flow better with the shots swapped, but all of the other films end with an iris out on a final shot of the heroes, and I didn’t want to break tradition. I’ll probably bite the bullet and swap them in the next version. DaVinci Resolve makes that final iris transition a pain to make too, because it only does the transition the opposite of how it needs to be (closing in from the outside instead of starting in the center and opening out). The workaround is to swap the two transition shots so the second shot is first, set both shots to play in reverse, add the iris transition, link the two shots together, then reverse the linked shot again so it plays and transitions correctly.

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Hi, I actually tried an edit with this same concept but reformatted it to a 22-minute summary style. I didn’t think a feature length edit without Palpatine would be possible! So I’m intrigued. May I have a link for the edit?