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A New Edit/Approach Of LOST In chronological order (a WIP)

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Hey there fellow LOST fans!

I have just completed editing together an all new version of LOST in chronological order, in full Blu-Ray video quality. My original inspiration was “Chronologically Lost”, which I believe was the first attempt at putting this complicated show in time order, which was a whole new way to watch my absolute favorite show of all time. I loved that someone put all that effort into it, and it was super fun to watch. I enjoyed the hell out of it.

However, there were things about it that bugged me, mainly that the source quality was poor (which was no fault of the editor, there wasn’t a lot of options back then - and it’s recently been updated to HD by another awesome Lost fan on this forum). But it was more than that. Though it made sense that the idea was to put every scene in it’s technically correct place in the timeline, there were many parts of the show that no longer worked as a cohesive story because of this. As an example (not specific), if a character time-travels from 2004 to 1956, rather than following their journey as they experience it, the 1956 scenes were moved to early on in the show, during the 1956 section, which is jarring and nonsensical story wise. And since there are many time jumps like this, there are many confusing scenes early on because they are completely out of context. And then much later there are giant gaps in the characters stories because they were moved way back to the literal point in time. Hopefully that made sense 😃

So, my new version was completely made from scratch, and I did my very best to make it a cohesive story while also making it chronological. It is edited in the chronology of the characters, rather than being strict/literal with the timeline. This means all instances (and varieties) of time-travel are experienced along with the character(s), since that is what they were experiencing in their present. This includes Desmond’s experiences, since they are happening to him in his present as well. It’s been clear to me over the years that many people would prefer seeing it this way, and as far as I know, it is not available currently.

I wanted this edit to be more than just rearranging scenes for fun. I wanted to make it it’s own (as close to professional as possible) experience. So, I did my best to take out all commercial break pauses, flashback noises, opening LOST graphics, continuity problems (there were more than I thought there would be), and to change the context of certain scenes to feel more natural when watching it this way. I scoured the episodes repeatedly to achieve all this (in addition to already having watched the entire series dozens of times). The episodes are continuous scenes, with no pauses or breaks, edited together to feel like it was meant to be this way. Watching Lost in this manner is such a different experience, it made sense to me to go all in and make it special. That said, I did my best to not mess with it too much, only enough to make this version of it work best. There’s only so much you can do with an already finished show (oh how great it would be to have some raw footage!), but I did my best.

There are 80 episodes total. I steered towards roughly an hour per episode, though it varies. I let the story (and timeline) dictate this more than anything. I’m leaving in one batch, rather than trying to separate it into seasons, or anything like that. While there are logical places to do this here and there, overall it didn’t feel right. It is one big story after all.

I added in all the Missing Pieces, “The New Man In Charge”, and the season 4 deleted scenes. I REALLY wanted to put in the delete scenes for the entire series, but unfortunately all the rest of them are such low quality it just takes you out of the show, so I took those out. It made it worse, trust me, or I would’ve kept them in. I always wonder why they only made the deleted scenes 1080p for season 4 and nothing else. Weird. But, if they ever do a 4K set of LOST (oh please oh please!) maybe the deleted scenes will get an upgrade, and then my edit will as well. I will gladly go back in and make the whole edit 4K if that day comes 😃.

There is no split screen used at all, as they did with “Chronologically Lost”. I wanted every scene to flow naturally, like there were never a bunch of separate scenes from different perspectives of a single moment. Instead, all the parts were edited with extreme detail to combine into a single flowing scene. Those scenes are some of my proudest moments, and I think they work amazingly well this way.

It was edited in Premiere Pro, using the untouched Blu-Ray video files, and exported in the same exact quality to maintain the best possible picture. This means it’s huge (884GB) but having the best possible video quality was very important to me. It has 5.1 AAC VBR audio at 640-800bps. Adobe doesn’t like DTS audio or I would’ve maintained the DTS-HD audio tracks from the Blu-Rays as well. However, the audio sounds great to my ears so I’m happy with the outcome.

As of now it is not available anywhere to share. I would love nothing more than to let my fellow LOST lovers watch and enjoy this, and have not set anything up yet because I want to make sure it’s safe for me (and you) to do so. I’m also debating adding optional subtitles that display the current time/date of whatever scene, in case anyone watching was confused at all in that regard. It would mostly be for the flashbacks, since some of those episodes traverse a number of years. Anyway, if it’s going to happen I want it done right. What that means, I don’t know yet. I guess I’ll find out how interested others are in seeing my version of this based on this post, and proceed from there. It would please me greatly for you all to see it, so I’m hoping it can work somehow. I do not have an official name for this edit yet, but I’m open to suggestions!

My brain has been busting at the seams with this whole project, and there’s probably a bunch more details I haven’t mentioned here, but this post is already really long. I’ll edit it, and/or answer questions within the forum, with any and all information if it’s asked for/thought of. But I want to share my excitement with fellow fans!

Please let me know your thoughts about any of this! I love LOST deeply and know there’s many others out there just like me. Say hello! And thanks for reading my overly long post!

Edit: I should mention that this will only be watchable for those that speak (or at least understand) English. The English subtitles for all other languages spoken in the show are burned-in, but there won’t be any subtitles available otherwise. I doubt that will be a problem, but who knows. At the moment I have no plans of adding any additional subtitles because it would be insanely difficult to implement.

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Hi WigJuice,

I can’t tell you how excited I am for this project. Well actually, I can, and I have told you twice already on different threads. But here I am, being excited again. And to have you post this on 8/15 is just a wonderful coincidence… or should I not mistake it for fate!

I am almost finished watching DragonClawNZ’s edit of ‘Chronologically LOST HD’ (reference: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Chronologically-Lost-HD-Remaster-of-Mike-Maloneys-edit-Released/id/68693) and am thoroughly enjoying it. Full credit to the effort put into it. Having said that, I was preparing myself to go ahead and make an edit of the series with some changes, many of which you’ve addressed here yourself.

To me, the time jumps and Desmond’s flashes should be watched in the timeline as the characters experience them. (To be precise, Desmond’s experience from 4x05 ‘The Constant’ is actually his 1996 self in control in both times, but it still makes better sense when viewed by us in 2004, once we know about the freighter. Similarly for his jump in 3x08 ‘Flashes Before Your Eyes’ when his 2004 self is in control during 1996; we would still make more sense of Desmond’s confusion when seen right after he turns the failsafe key in the hatch.) I’m happy to hear that you’ve put these scenes into an order that should theoretically allow a newcomer to Lost to watch the series for the first time with this project, and have it make sense (and I intend to test this theory by introducing a friend — let’s call her Eloise — to the series in this way). For those of us who have seen the original show before, this project would finally put together the mosaic pieces that the original show gives to us out of order.

I also like the idea of having the show title appear at the start of each episode. Since the pacing will be different from the original show (e.g. during the ‘flashback’ 1980s and 1990s episodes, there may not be an appropriate dramatic ‘teaser’ scene to punctuate with the title), this allows the full episode to run uninterrupted. My vote (as you’ve heard) is to call this project ‘Causalogically Lost’ (‘causal’, as in, events follow causality including during time travel sequences… except for that damned compass!).

Overall, it sounds like you have put substantial time into something that many fans will want to see. You might want to contact DragonClawNZ to find out how they managed to share it while considering safety. Certainly use a VPN, obviously. You may also wish to consider exporting a version in 1080p quality, for those who can’t handle such massive file sizes.

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Drew Drakofolis said:

This is something I’d very much be interested in.
But without split screens - how are such scenes actually handled?
If there’s multiple things happening at the same time, what do you do?

Hey there! Thanks for the reply and the interest!

I’ve just found a few tiny issues with my exports of a few episodes, so will need to do a little problem solving before it’s officially ready, just so you know. Then I’ll figure out how to share it and all that good stuff.

Anywho, to answer your question, I pretty much just tried to edit those scenes together to make it feel like a good single scene from the show. With something like the plane crash (that whole episode, or day really), it’s just a matter of cross-cutting between all the different elements in a way that works, dramatically and while making the pace feel good and natural. For instance, after the plane breaks apart in the air, the tail section hits first, so a chunk of that plays out before Jack actually wakes up in the jungle (there’s some Ben and Juliet and ‘the others’ stuff mixed in too), then it’s just going back and forth between all the different events happening to feel like it’s sort of all happening in one big chaotic moment. There’s way more to it than that, of course, but that’s a simple breakdown. In most cases, the scenes that used split screens aren’t different things happening at the same time, but different perspectives of the same scene, so those ones were relatively easy to make into one single flowing scene. But, there are some that just have to jump back and forth between different things happening, and honestly, to me it works far better. It feels more like Lost. The split screens are really cool, and fun to watch, but having it flow in one edited together sequence keeps you more compelled with the show. That’s how I feel anyway, I’m sure not everyone would agree. But, I did my very best to make it work and feel professional, like it was meant to be that way.

Feel free to ask any other questions! I’m always happy to talk about it.

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Looking forward to this release. Thanks for doing this.

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Adam905 said:

Looking forward to this release. Thanks for doing this.

Thanks for the interest and support!

Unfortunately there were some technical problems with the exports of some of the episodes, so the final product will be delayed a bit. However, I am actively working on it so it shouldn’t be too long.

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This sounds great! I’m also looking forward to this, and thanks for all the work.

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I am so so so so interested in this! I actually asked a few months ago if something like this exists! I cannot wait to give it a watch.