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9/11 - The Movie

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So, barely 5 years on and we have a movie. Any thoughts?

War does not make one great.

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Hmn... Too soon? Although people probably said the same when Casablanca was released, as the nazis were still ocupying France.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Having popped out of the subway shortly after the first plane and watched the second one go in, this movie is irrelevant. It's frustrating that still after this time passage, we're still not able to get access to all the information relevant to this event. There should be a public database at this point, so those who want to learn can. If there was, I doubt people would be interested in a movie such as this.

This movie is just a retelling, that's how we pass along information, and we'll i'm not interested. But I am interested in the people who did see the event live and then watch this movie and point out the differences.
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This might win academy awards just for the subject not for how good it is.
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Too bad the film probably can't/won't show this as being the staged hoax that it really was.
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Too bad the film probably can't/won't show this as being the staged hoax that it really was.

How was 9/11 a staged hoax, pray tell?
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I think it somehow connects with World Trade center building 7 hours after 9/11. It was a reichstag fire for Bush to occupy Iraq and get oil without Saddam.
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Well what conspiracy theories are you all focusing on. Missiles being launched from the airplanes... The second plane attack being a media presented digital recreation...... The govt could/should have shot down United 93.......... The Pentagon hit was a US missile............ The CIA was in Building 7 so it's collapse could have been orchestrated, but there's just not enough facts to make a swayable opinion piece. As for Saddam, the world finally had a tyrant who made the mistake of invading another country, after being removed from the invaded country, the UN asked for his cooperation, he didn't comply, repeatedly, so the next step was removal. The UN can't do that, but the UN can ask nations to take up the task, over 30 gave their support.
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Originally posted by: TR47
Too bad the film probably can't/won't show this as being the staged hoax that it really was.


Believe me, it was no hoax. Those planes really did fly into those buildings. Speculate all you want on the motives or the lack of intelligence, but don't call the actual events a hoax. I know people who died on that day.

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It wasn't a hoax. It happened the way it was shown (well, except for the Pentagon). What you guys are missing is: who commanded the operation. Who knew about it. And who profited form it. Easy to connect the dots.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Even that suggests too much credit given to our government. Bin Laden is the fucker responsible and he has admitted as much.

Now, whether or not the White House looked the other way at incoming intelligence, allowing it to happen is certainly up for debate. I for one believe they looked the other way, not out of malicious intent but sheer ineptness. This happened on Dubya's watch. Therein lies the difference between Politics and Business. The CEO of a major corporation would have been tossed out on his ass for ignoring warning signs about a malicious attack. Voters were stuck with him another 3.5 years and then were dumb enough to put him back in.

If there were a credible conspiracy story to tell, Oliver Stone would be telling THAT story.

But back to the topic at hand, this isn't the first 9/11 movie. Technically it isn't even the second. The best 9/11 movie is 9/11. The documentary shot by two German filmmakers who were doing a bit on one of the firefighters of NYC that day caught the real spirit of the day.

I haven't seen United 93, but it seems far more respectful of 9/11 than this cheesy cash-in. This looks like something that should go on the shelf beside Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor.

I am the BASF of the film community. I don’t make the films you watch. I make the films you watch better.

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Hope it's historically accurate, unlike hollywoods usual take on world events.
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It wasn't a hoax, per se, just carefully planned to further corporate agendas.
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Oliver Stone is not allowed by any major studio to say anything remotedly controversial after he did JFK. Even though he published a book proving the origin of each fact pointed out in the movie, he paid the price for trying to question a not-so-clear fact. I could go on and explain everything behind 9-11 but if I say what I want here, 90% of you will demand my head in a plate. So I rather stick with the pizza stones, Wii and top 10 films discussions.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Originally posted by: TR47
Too bad the film probably can't/won't show this as being the staged hoax that it really was.


Idiot. It won't show a staged hoax because THERE WAS NO STAGED HOAX. It's been proven time and time again that the Towers obeyed every law of physics throughout the collapse assuming that an airplaine nearly full of fuel slammed into them.

You don't have any true, concrete, facutal evidence to bakc up your claims; the ONLY thing that has kept this nonsense alive for so long is the unbridled hatred people have for Bush and his adminstration.

Wake up and face the facts people; even if you think Bush is the worst president we've ever had (and he's not, but let's not go into who is) an honest evaluation of the facts means you have to conclude that yes, planes really did hit the WTC and the Pentagon, and that yes, they really were flown by Muslim extremists from the middle east under the mentorship of Osama Bin Laden.

Even ADigitalMan, obviously an avowwed Bush-hater, can see that! Again, I say it: Idiot.

Sorry for the rant, but people like him get on my nerves. Not only do they try and advance their political agendas with this stupidity, but they defame other people by accusing them of doing the same and worse. (And not just the administration; do you realize how big, how many people woudl have to be involved for it to be a consipiracy? nobody could keep so many people so slilent for so long, not in the 21st century)...

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I agree with you, Chaltab, on how the whole thing worked out. The highjackings, the flying into the towers, that's sacred and that is related to the loss of innocent lifes in a way we KNOW that happened. BUT the main point is: who planned it out, who carried it away, why, and who profited from it.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Who profited from it? What does it matter who profited from it? Should we punish anyone who got paid to rebuild the site? Should we arrest the security officials at airports who were hired do to the attacks?

Obviously, I'm being ridiculous, but just because someoen profits from a tragedy doesn't make them guilty of anything.

Who planned it? We've already established that it was Al Quaida. Bin Laden and Mohamed Atta. And obviously, everyone who carried it out went up in a fireball with the planes, so it's not like we can punish them.

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What happens to the people who give this movies bad reviews?
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
What happens to the people who give this movies bad reviews?
They get labelled as Communists.

War does not make one great.

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I've not seen anyone get labelled a communist yet.

Granted, most of the reviews for it so far have been pretty good.

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I've not seen anyone get labelled a communist yet.

Granted, most of the reviews for it so far have been pretty good.


People are probably afraid to give it bad reviews.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I've not seen anyone get labelled a communist yet.
I've been called a Communist a few times, but invariably by somebody who has no clue what a Communist actually is, so I don't take it to heart.

I remember a when I first heard about this film 5 or 6 months ago the tagline was 'buildings will fall, heroes will rise' or some cheesy bullshit to that effect. Anyone know if they are still using that?

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No the newone is "The World Saw Evil That Day. Two Men Saw Something Else."
IMHO still cheesey bull shit.