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It didn’t work. 😦

It was playing just fine on my computer through pot player, but when I played it on my TV with the external hdd, there was video, but no audio. Did I do something wrong (i followed the steps)? Is there a mono Track available that isn’t dts?

If not, I might get the ISO, but I can either make the ISO myself, or download the one that’s already available (but that is in 1080p only, so it would defeat the purpose of what I’m trying to do).

Edit: I’m getting a 4k blu ray player soon. If I were to connect my hard drive to the player, will the dts files be available?

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skywalkerfan101 said:

It didn’t work. 😦

It was playing just fine on my computer through pot player, but when I played it on my TV with the external hdd, there was video, but no audio. Did I do something wrong (i followed the steps)?

Not sure, but probably not. Did you make sure to check “Downconvert DTS-HD to DTS” in tsmuxer? If so, then it’s likely that the mono mix just doesn’t have a DTS core.

Is there a mono Track available that isn’t dts?

Don’t know. I’m sure someone has it in PCM or Dolby. If you have a 2.5-2.7 Despecialized AVCHD, it might have the mono in Dolby that you can pull from that and mux in with your 4K77 video.

Edit: I’m getting a 4k blu ray player soon. If I were to connect my hard drive to the player, will the dts files be available?

Any BR player should have a DTS-HD MA decoder built in, so yeah, that should work just fine without any remuxing of the original MKV.

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ChainsawAsh said:
Don’t know. I’m sure someone has it in PCM or Dolby. If you have a 2.5-2.7 Despecialized AVCHD, it might have the mono in Dolby that you can pull from that and mux in with your 4K77 video.

Alright, I did just that. We’ll have to wait and see.

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a_o said:

https://turbofuture.com/computers/How-to-take-batch-screenshots-or-screencaps-in-VLC-Media-Player

Huh?

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ChainsawAsh said:

Not sure, but probably not. Did you make sure to check “Downconvert DTS-HD to DTS” in tsmuxer? If so, then it’s likely that the mono mix just doesn’t have a DTS core.

It’s actually not possible to create DTS-HD MA tracks that don’t have a core. DTS-HD and DTS-HD MA are extensions to the standard DTS format, and as such, all contain a standard DTS core.

If you want to try a different extraction method, use eac3to. The command line will look like this:

\eac3to “inputfile.dtshd” “outputfile.dts” -core.

If you want to decode it to PCM losslessly, use:

\eac3to “inputfile.dtshd” “output.wav”

Easy peasy 😉

Jedit: Link to eac3to: https://www.videohelp.com/software/eac3to

Just extract to a folder and run under a command prompt, or you can try out the useac3to gui.

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I thought that was the case, but I’m pretty sure I’ve come across a DTS-HD MA track with no core at some point in the past.

It could also be that some players don’t like mono DTS in general.

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I demuxed the mono track from the Despecialized AVCHD, and placed in the MKV using mkvtool. It worked!

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I’m not sure what version I got, but I sat down and watched it with the mono mix turned on and it was just the best best day. I felt 8 years old again.

Thank you so much for the obviously tremendous amount of work. Thanks to projects like this my children can see Star Wars.

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BTW, I looked and couldn’t find. Who’s Isolated Score is that that got used?

Thanks in advance.

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I think hairy_hen made a new one for 4K77.

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How did they make the Isolated Score, I’d like to know how they made it, if it’s no trouble explaining it

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JonathanArthur19 said:

How did they make the Isolated Score, I’d like to know how they made it, if it’s no trouble explaining it

this post is from a much older thread:

hairy_hen said:

For anybody who’s interested, I’m making an isolated score for the first movie using the 2-CD set.  I’d been thinking of doing this for a while, but now that I’m more comfortable with using Pro Tools for editing and mixing purposes, I decided to go ahead with it.

The 2-CD release is the only complete presentation of the score and therefore must be used for any project of this type, but unfortunately it sounds shrill and harsh, due to the broadly excessive elevation of the high frequencies compared to how the music actually sounds in the movie.  To combat this, I spent some time dialing in an EQ curve that would more closely match it to the 1993 mix, which comes from the original 70mm version and should be considered the most accurate tonal reference.  The result is hardly exact, of course, considering how different the two sources are to begin with, but I was surprised by how close the final result actually comes.  (The CD is also somewhat peak-limited and shows occasional distortion, but there isn’t anything I can do about that.)

Before starting I read a lot about different equalizers in an attempt to find that mythical perfect tool that would give the best sound and turn all my work to gold, but eventually realized there was nothing any of them could do that the default parametric EQ in Pro Tools couldn’t match, and with considerably greater flexibility and ease of use.  After all it isn’t the tools that matter so much as the technique, and what is appropriate for the task at hand.  Now obviously if I had a $10,000 analogue unit like Steve Hoffman, I’d be using that instead of any digital imitation, but all that really matters is that the process is transparent and doesn’t colour the sound for the worse.  At any rate I’m following the advice of he and other respected audio engineers in using equalization only for cutting frequencies away from a sound—think of it as ‘sculpting’, if you like—and not for boosting.

Conversion of the audio from 16/44.1 to 24/48 was performed with the iZotope SRC before importing, and Pro Tools handles its internal calculations at 32-bit floating point resolution.  The final result will be converted back to 16 bits with iZotope’s MBit+ dither.  Since the source is a CD, there isn’t actually any more detail than this to begin with; processing at higher resolution simply gives greater precision in rendering, and dithering allows for high quality to be retained when reducing bit depth.

The broad nature of the treble reduction means that the tape hiss is unavoidably lowered along with it, so to compensate I used a signal generator (along with another EQ) to add low level white noise back into the music, in order to maintain the proper analogue vibe.  (This can be considered the aural equivalent of the simulated film grain added to the effects shots in the Despecialized Edition to replicate the look of the optical compositing.)  A noise gate allows the hiss to trigger with the start of each track and fade away at the end.  Since the entire set shows equal shrillness, the same EQ settings should work well for every cue.

In synching up the tracks, I was surprised by how many edits there are in the music that I’d never noticed while watching the movie.  Matching them requires patience and attention to detail, but I haven’t attempted to replicate every cut exactly.  A film soundtrack can sometimes get away with clunky editing, since the dialogue and sound effects can be used to obscure the transitions, but in a music-only presentation I think it important that the edits make sense from a listening perspective.  Therefore I am attempting to allow each track to sound continuous and not ‘cut up’, where possible.  Occasionally the synch may be off by a small amount, but hopefully this will be unnoticeable.

Now that I’ve got the music sounding just the way it should (within the limitations of the admittedly flawed source, that is), finishing is just a matter of synching and editing the remaining tracks.  Since I’ve got my finals coming, this will probably take me longer than it otherwise would, but I’ll have it ready as soon as I can.  For now, here’s a preview in the form of a comparison between three versions of the main title, as heard in the 70mm mix, the harsh and unpleasant CD, and my EQ’d version.  All three have been level-matched to remove any bias based on their perceived loudness; the file is an mp3 so that the download size isn’t too large, but encoded with maximum bitrate/quality settings.  The actual release will of course be lossless.

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Thanks. I’d gotten as far as the Robot Auction myself and yeah, those micro-edits are a pain. Whoever it was did a fantastic job.

Although they made some changes and restored some score that is on the CD that was not in the film such as The Little People Work and not including the edit when the sandcrawler rolls over the hill to the Lars’s farm. I haven’t listened to how the music is handled when Luke and Threepio are looking for Artoo. (Lotta edits there.)

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What shots from the Blu-Ray we’re used for 4K77, it says on the 4K77 page and I quote " Finally, about 400 frames that couldn’t be sourced from anywhere else at the time they were needed, were upscaled from the official Blu-Ray." I was wondering what scene interpreted these frames

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JonathanArthur19 said:

What shots from the Blu-Ray we’re used for 4K77, it says on the 4K77 page and I quote " Finally, about 400 frames that couldn’t be sourced from anywhere else at the time they were needed, were upscaled from the official Blu-Ray." I was wondering what scene interpreted these frames

Last shot of reel 3, first and last shots of reel 4, first and last shots of reel 5, first shot of reel 6.

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Ahh, thanks for the info, I didn’t really notice it when I was watching it, you did a terrific job

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Wow! Haven’t visited in some time.
Get nostalgic around this time of year.

Should’ve visited somewhere besides spleen, but can’t wait to fully check these out on a recently acquired plasma. One of the last best ones.
On that note, thanks very much for the quality 1080 downscales for us who haven’t jumped on the 4k bandwagon yet.

The older version of this looked good (sse), but this is another level. Really great work. Floored. Floored that this exists. Can’t imagine the time and work involved. DNR looks great so far. It translates well on plasma, which I think has a totally different “life” to it than most any other kind of flat panel.

Excited to watch this, and the 83 one! Will donate a little when I can for all the work. Thank you. Seriously. Means a lot to have this for future generations. I hope my kid will know and appreciate the differences.

Still reading through this thread over the next …while. Right now, I don’t know if I’ll find a better quote than this

“It wasn’t so long ago that the best version we had was the GOUT.”

How very true. That’s where I started here. Wondering if anyone else already made a proper anamorphic version when I finally had a high definition TV. Then team blue. Then Harmy’s adventures from 1.0 on. Now this project. All of it great. I still dig some of the colors Harmy’s has. Still dig all the work on those over the years, and like many, greatly appreciate the efforts.

While I’m sitting here trying the DNR version on a big plasma, I am impressed. Yeah, I could nitpick a few spots or wonder about some color choices here and there that I’m sure others already have. Overall, it’s just beautiful that this is “done.” To see a quality scan like this, even with some bits added to imitate grain, it’s just unreal to see the level of quality here. Restoration from real film. A few bits cut in from disc, but who cares. It’s so nice to see such a glorious transfer like this.

Again, will donate a little when I can, soon.

Sorry for the rambling post. Lots to catch up on here, and just wanted to write a little thank you here, as it’s the least I can do at the moment. Can’t wait to also enjoy the non DNR version. May the force be with you all.

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Hi guys,
What an absolute treat to find these restoration projects at this time of year, its like an extra Christmas present finding amazing copies of the OOT lovingly worked on to share with fans. Thank you Team Negative for all the hardwork doing this, as much as it was a labour of love i’m sure it took many painstaking hours at the computer slaving away.
Sorry if its been asked before and i’ve not picked up on it but can I please ask about the filesizes? the 4K no DNR comes in at 83.8gig, whereas the 4K DNR version is a mear 48.3gig just 5.7gig bigger than the 1080p DNR version…it just seemed like you managed to get the 4K DNR version much smaller in comparison?
Thanks for any reply and again I take my hat off for all the hard work!
…I also chipped in a little drink as a sign of appreciation…Cheers!

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Trint0 said:

Hi guys,
What an absolute treat to find these restoration projects at this time of year, its like an extra Christmas present finding amazing copies of the OOT lovingly worked on to share with fans. Thank you Team Negative for all the hardwork doing this, as much as it was a labour of love i’m sure it took many painstaking hours at the computer slaving away.
Sorry if its been asked before and i’ve not picked up on it but can I please ask about the filesizes? the 4K no DNR comes in at 83.8gig, whereas the 4K DNR version is a mear 48.3gig just 5.7gig bigger than the 1080p DNR version…it just seemed like you managed to get the 4K DNR version much smaller in comparison?
Thanks for any reply and again I take my hat off for all the hard work!
…I also chipped in a little drink as a sign of appreciation…Cheers!

Asked and answered earlier in the thread, but here it is again:

Yes this was intentional for three reasons:

  1. The noDNR version had a lot of noise and grain so it needed a higher bitrate to preserve it. The DNR version is not as complex so it doesn’t need that high of a bitrate.
  2. A LOT of people had real trouble playing back the 80+ GB noDNR version.
  3. The noDNR version was encoded with a specific target bitrate (80 Mb/s), which was probably higher than it needed to be to achieve the desired quality. Therefore when encoding the DNR version I used a target quality (CRF 16) instead, and this resulted in the smaller file.

Conversely, the 1080p DNR version is bigger than the No DNR version for similar reasons: the noDNR version was encoded using quality based settings, while this one was encoded using a CBR of 40 MB/s for maximum quality - filesize didn’t seem so important here because whether it was 30 GB or 40 GB it was still going to need a DL BD 50 so why not make it maximum quality?

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Can’t wait to buy BD 50 discs for the ISOs. Even though it’s 1080p, it looks amazing on my 4k TV.

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Off topic (because this is for ANH) but I want to create a Blu Ray compatible ISO for TESB (Grindhouse Dreamastered Version 2). I can just use Tsumuxer, right?

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I’m guessing this is only available on MySpleen?

I’ve tried looking for days now without any luck on Mega or Uploaded.net links.

Only found a poorly seeded torrent.

If MySpleen is the only place to find it… does anyone know where to get an invite?
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