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dlvh said:

Thanks for the tip, “stretch009”, that PotPlayer is indeed a very nice Media Player!

You’re very welcome. It’s strange to me with all the savvy folk around here that it isn’t mentioned more…

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alexp120 said:

ZaneFlare92 said:
The shot during the “Luke Pull up” it looks like and this is the only way I can explain it, someone turn the brightness up high for that one shot.

Why don’t you make a screenshot of the image you are talking about.

Just press “PrntScr” on your keyboard for the image in question, save the photo, go to a photo-hosting website and upload the screenshot that you saved, copy the link of the screenshot from the photo-hosting website, and paste the link here.

Well if I could I would. I use MPC-HC and can make screenshots from that program. I see people on here posting photos but dragging it to the “Post Content” box doesn’t work. I don’t want to set up a photo-hosting website I’m barley gonna use and get junk email. Maybe Towne32 could help out, or someone that could can. It’s after the flash from Luke Strafing run, 1:43:53:979-1:43:54:468.

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Try Imgur?

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ZaneFlare92 said:

alexp120 said:

ZaneFlare92 said:
The shot during the “Luke Pull up” it looks like and this is the only way I can explain it, someone turn the brightness up high for that one shot.

Why don’t you make a screenshot of the image you are talking about.

Just press “PrntScr” on your keyboard for the image in question, save the photo, go to a photo-hosting website and upload the screenshot that you saved, copy the link of the screenshot from the photo-hosting website, and paste the link here.

Well if I could I would. I use MPC-HC and can make screenshots from that program. I see people on here posting photos but dragging it to the “Post Content” box doesn’t work. I don’t want to set up a photo-hosting website I’m barley gonna use and get junk email. Maybe Towne32 could help out, or someone that could can. It’s after the flash from Luke Strafing run, 1:43:53:979-1:43:54:468.

Yes, at 1:43:54. All other releases I checked, including Silver Screen get bright, but return to normal levels. 4k77 stays bright for the whole (brief) shot. No screenshot necessary, I think people can view it for themselves.

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Yes, at 1:43:54. All other releases I checked, including Silver Screen get bright, but return to normal levels. 4k77 stays bright for the whole (brief) shot. No screenshot necessary, I think people can view it for themselves.

Thanks g-force. I look on the other various versions as well. I’m sure by me telling them about it they can fix it for future releases.

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I apologize Williarob. Having grown up with various vhs releases dvd blu ray and other stuff it was just something new to my eyes. Look like we may have found something new that was altered from the original none the less.

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ZaneFlare92 said:

I apologize Williarob. Having grown up with various vhs releases dvd blu ray and other stuff it was just something new to my eyes. Look like we may have found something new that was altered from the original none the less.

No worries. What this probably means is that the effect was produced as part of the color correction process - they artificially turned up the brightness to achieve this look (as opposed to using on set lighting to produce an in camera effect). This would mean that the extended bright version is not on the negative. The last interpositive created for home video releases was made in 1985, and that would have been created directly from the negative - so the extended brightness wasn’t there and I guess nobody thought to re-add it, so none of the home video releases from that point on have it. However, I just looked at the 1982 CED release, the 1983 HBO broadcast and the 1982 rental tape and they all have the extended brightness, which makes sense as they were probably created from the same color timed interpositive as the release prints.

This frame is from the CED version:

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The Japanese Special Collection laserdisc (1986) does not have it, as that was from the later IP.

All of which I find very interesting - this is something I wasn’t aware of until you pointed it out and I started looking into it.

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I love hearing how projects like this go down. Nice insight .

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ZaneFlare92 said:

I apologize Williarob. Having grown up with various vhs releases dvd blu ray and other stuff it was just something new to my eyes. Look like we may have found something new that was altered from the original none the less.

When first going through these projects frame by frame we see all sorts of things we didn’t expect.
This was the image that surprised me the most, I still get a laugh from it:

Gredo Puppet

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Faithwyn said:

ZaneFlare92 said:

I apologize Williarob. Having grown up with various vhs releases dvd blu ray and other stuff it was just something new to my eyes. Look like we may have found something new that was altered from the original none the less.

When first going through these projects frame by frame we see all sorts of things we didn’t expect.
This was the image that surprised me the most, I still get a laugh from it:

Gredo Puppet

I wish I could lose that much weight before death lol.

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Williarob said:

ZaneFlare92 said:

I apologize Williarob. Having grown up with various vhs releases dvd blu ray and other stuff it was just something new to my eyes. Look like we may have found something new that was altered from the original none the less.

No worries. What this probably means is that the effect was produced as part of the color correction process - they artificially turned up the brightness to achieve this look (as opposed to using on set lighting to produce an in camera effect). This would mean that the extended bright version is not on the negative. The last interpositive created for home video releases was made in 1985, and that would have been created directly from the negative - so the extended brightness wasn’t there and I guess nobody thought to re-add it, so none of the home video releases from that point on have it. However, I just looked at the 1982 CED release, the 1983 HBO broadcast and the 1982 rental tape and they all have the extended brightness, which makes sense as they were probably created from the same color timed interpositive as the release prints.

This frame is from the CED version:

Imgur

The Japanese Special Collection laserdisc (1986) does not have it, as that was from the later IP.

All of which I find very interesting - this is something I wasn’t aware of until you pointed it out and I started looking into it.

This is interesting! How is it that my copy of Silver Screen LPP doesn’t have the extended brightness?

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I’ve just checked my SSE v1.6, and it doesn’t have the extended brightness either.
All very mysterious…

Bluto

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maybe it was a bluray frame in SSE 1.6?

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dahmage said:

maybe it was a bluray frame in SSE 1.6?

Only missing LPP frames were replaced with the bluray.

I didn’t work on this section of the film for the SSE, but chances are good that the guy who graded it was consulting other post '85 sources during the color grading - like the GOUT and the Japanese Special Collection - and none of these references had this brightness so it was ‘corrected’ for the SSE.

http://www.thestarwarstrilogy.com

http://www.the007dossier.com

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I wonder if greedo subtitles were added for the positive copy of the original negative, greedo subtitles were added for 35mm LPP, 35mm Tech Print A & B, But I Do Not Know

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Williarob said:

Only missing LPP frames were replaced with the bluray.

I didn’t work on this section of the film for the SSE, but chances are good that the guy who graded it was consulting other post '85 sources during the color grading - like the GOUT and the Japanese Special Collection - and none of these references had this brightness so it was ‘corrected’ for the SSE.

Oh, I See That

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Wow, this looks great, from what I can view. Im having an issue with the .MKV file. When I try an demux it, I get an error code of -2. When I try and play it in VLC player, it jumps around in the film. In other players I get digital artifacts. My DL shows 100% and the folder shows a 38gb file, but 36gb on the disc. Am I missing part of the DL despite showing 100%? Sorry to break the flow of the thread, but Ive never encountered this before.

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From what I can view of my fragmented download, the one thing that really caught me off guard were the Tatooine scenes. Was everything really that yellow in the theatres? If so, I guess Ive been conditioned by all the home releases that give it a more natural look instead of the extreme yellow cast over everything.

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BobaJett said:

Wow, this looks great, from what I can view. Im having an issue with the .MKV file. When I try an demux it, I get an error code of -2. When I try and play it in VLC player, it jumps around in the film. In other players I get digital artifacts. My DL shows 100% and the folder shows a 38gb file, but 36gb on the disc. Am I missing part of the DL despite showing 100%? Sorry to break the flow of the thread, but Ive never encountered this before.

Not sure where you got it from, but I suggest doing a hash check, reference data here: https://pastebin.com/raw/ypJGN4HZ

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dahmage said:

BobaJett said:

Wow, this looks great, from what I can view. Im having an issue with the .MKV file. When I try an demux it, I get an error code of -2. When I try and play it in VLC player, it jumps around in the film. In other players I get digital artifacts. My DL shows 100% and the folder shows a 38gb file, but 36gb on the disc. Am I missing part of the DL despite showing 100%? Sorry to break the flow of the thread, but Ive never encountered this before.

Not sure where you got it from, but I suggest doing a hash check, reference data here: https://pastebin.com/raw/ypJGN4HZ

Actually, it was your torrent. I think what happened was I was missing about 2gb and most of the movie would play, but had lots of little missing pieces and that was causing the issue. Im re-loading it right now and hopefully Ill get it all. I think the first time was because I was out of space on my main drive. I had to move some files around to free up some space. What I did see was very different and quite nice to look at at. Im color blind, but I could tell it was different. The opening scene with the rebels awaiting the stormtrooper assault had a very warm, natural look to it. I cant describe it any other way.

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BobaJett said:

From what I can view of my fragmented download, the one thing that really caught me off guard were the Tatooine scenes. Was everything really that yellow in the theatres? If so, I guess Ive been conditioned by all the home releases that give it a more natural look instead of the extreme yellow cast over everything.

The home releases were definitely graded to be more muted in their grading, for example Tatooine was quite yellow and the cantina was quite red in the Tech prints compared to later releases.

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NeverarGreat said:

BobaJett said:

From what I can view of my fragmented download, the one thing that really caught me off guard were the Tatooine scenes. Was everything really that yellow in the theatres? If so, I guess Ive been conditioned by all the home releases that give it a more natural look instead of the extreme yellow cast over everything.

The home releases were definitely graded to be more muted in their grading, for example Tatooine was quite yellow and the cantina was quite red in the Tech prints compared to later releases.

IN other words, closer to what we wouldve seen in the theatres back in the 70’s or early 80’s re-releases?

How wide of a release were the technicolor screenings? Im assuming they were uncommon and in bigger cities like LA or NYC. Until recently, I was always under the impression I saw it on opening day 5/25/77. But in fact, I actually didnt see it until 6/17/77, opening day for my hometown. That explains how my parents already knew that it was a good movie due to positive reviews from other cities where it was released 2 weeks earlier. I recall them telling me about it and showing me the cinema section from the newspaper with several reviews.

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I dont know how I made this reply, so I deleted the quote. Sorry for the waste of space.😦

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Williarob said:

dahmage said:

maybe it was a bluray frame in SSE 1.6?

Only missing LPP frames were replaced with the bluray.

I didn’t work on this section of the film for the SSE, but chances are good that the guy who graded it was consulting other post '85 sources during the color grading - like the GOUT and the Japanese Special Collection - and none of these references had this brightness so it was ‘corrected’ for the SSE.

Both the GOUT and the Blu-Ray have the extended brightness:

BLU-RAY:

GOUT:

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