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Don’t know if this was mentioned or matters but Empire of Dreams is on Amazon Prime.

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Will this be the first time I-VI have been reissued since the steelbooks in 2015?

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I can’t believe one of the most popular movie franchises of all time, now owned by one of the largest movie studios of all time, and the best option for viewing those movies is currently fan restorations.

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Since we’re only just now hearing about this with very little notice, I’m not getting my hopes up that it’s anything more than maybe a remastered blu-ray from the newer 4k transfer. The GOUT was also a September release and we knew about it four whole months ahead of time, so I think we would’ve heard something long ago if this was anything significant.

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crissrudd4554 said:

Don’t know if this was mentioned or matters but Empire of Dreams is on Amazon Prime.

It’s been on youtube for years.

Rodney-2187 said:

I can’t believe one of the most popular movie franchises of all time, now owned by one of the largest movie studios of all time, and the best option for viewing those movies is currently fan restorations.

Oh I can. There’s a genius narrative George started and it helps their branding to continue the same story.

Yub Nub for life

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Mocata said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Don’t know if this was mentioned or matters but Empire of Dreams is on Amazon Prime.

It’s been on youtube for years.

I wasn’t bringing it up as if it was unattainable since the 2004 DVDs.

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Has EOD been remastered in HD though?

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Where were you in '77?

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What will it take for you to purchase a new boxed set?

  1. The Original Trilogy special editions in 4K.
  2. 3D versions of the prequels and special editions.
  3. A new updated version of the special editions with improved CGI.
  4. Previously unreleased special features.
  5. Completely restored Original Trilogy digital copy only.
  6. Completely restored Original Trilogy on a bonus disc in 720p.
  7. Completely restored Original Trilogy on a bonus disc in 1080p.
  8. Completely restored Original Trilogy in 4K.
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The unaltered versions restored in Blu Ray 4K and dvd.

I can answer almost all questions anyone might have about the Sith from Star Wars Legends, and please do PM me for the bd25 DEED(Despecalised Editions), as I have this version, though I can’t answer technical questions about them. Do not go gentle into that good night, Though wise men at their end know dark is right, They
Do not go gentle into that good night.
“Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.” - SilverWook
Feel the love.

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I’ll probably buy the first Episode I-IX Complete Saga 4K + standard Blu-Ray set and ditch all my old discs after that, whether the OOT is included or not, if I’m honest with myself. Just to have everything in a nice matching set and be covered for all future fan projects, and the ST in 4K. But that would be my last OT purchase unless a restored OOT is released, and would definitely be my last PT purchase unless I’m forced to rebuy themb for an official restored OOT.

Oddly, I don’t think I’d buy said set if it included Rogue One and Solo. I’d rather have just the “Skywalker Saga” itself in a boxed set and have the standalone movies all separate.

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For me to buy it, it has to be new or exclusive content. I’ll probably buy it even if all they do is remaster the SEs.

What’s incredibly frustrating is how comparatively easy and cheap it would be to make a quick IP transfer. For most people, myself included, that would absolutely be good enough. While I appreciate high quality fan preservations, they’re not very accessible for the general public.

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It was on the first trilogy DVD set though. It’s not some rogue unauthorized thing. George participated and probably had to sign off on letting them use the original 1977 crawl.

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George didn’t seem to care about how bumpy things looked, just look at the Phantom Menace features. Now it’s all fluff.

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Mocata said:

George didn’t seem to care about how bumpy things looked, just look at the Phantom Menace features. Now it’s all fluff.

Funny thing about that is that everyone pretends that he was watching something close to final when he made the “too far in a few places” comment.

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MikeWW said:

Mocata said:

George didn’t seem to care about how bumpy things looked, just look at the Phantom Menace features. Now it’s all fluff.

Funny thing about that is that everyone pretends that he was watching something close to final when he made the “too far in a few places” comment.

We know he did, because Ben Burt gives us a sequence of events, that closely follows the final movie, pointing out the tonal issues to Lucas, and Lucas himself admits there’s little he can do about it at that stage, because of the way the movie has been constructed.

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DrDre said:

MikeWW said:

Mocata said:

George didn’t seem to care about how bumpy things looked, just look at the Phantom Menace features. Now it’s all fluff.

Funny thing about that is that everyone pretends that he was watching something close to final when he made the “too far in a few places” comment.

We know he did, because Ben Burt gives us a sequence of events, that closely follows the final movie, pointing out the tonal issues to Lucas, and Lucas himself admits there’s little he can do about it at that stage, because of the way the movie has been constructed.

You assume way too much though. You have no idea what Lucas did or didn’t do to “diminish the effects of it”, because they don’t show the footage.

But speaking of Ben Burtt and the TPM finale, in the commentary track when Obi Wan kills Darth Maul, Burtt talks about how they were fine tuning the editing of the climax up until basically the minute they shipped the movie out, which would have been much later than the time of the “too far in a few places” screening.

You don’t know that that cut wasn’t notably worse than what Lucas ended up with.

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MikeWW said:

You don’t know that that cut wasn’t notably worse than what Lucas ended up with.

I don’t see how it could’ve been much worse.

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MikeWW said:

DrDre said:

MikeWW said:

Mocata said:

George didn’t seem to care about how bumpy things looked, just look at the Phantom Menace features. Now it’s all fluff.

Funny thing about that is that everyone pretends that he was watching something close to final when he made the “too far in a few places” comment.

We know he did, because Ben Burt gives us a sequence of events, that closely follows the final movie, pointing out the tonal issues to Lucas, and Lucas himself admits there’s little he can do about it at that stage, because of the way the movie has been constructed.

You assume way too much though. You have no idea what Lucas did or didn’t do to “diminish the effects of it”, because they don’t show the footage.

But speaking of Ben Burtt and the TPM finale, in the commentary track when Obi Wan kills Darth Maul, Burtt talks about how they were fine tuning the editing of the climax up until basically the minute they shipped the movie out, which would have been much later than the time of the “too far in a few places” screening.

You don’t know that that cut wasn’t notably worse than what Lucas ended up with.

You don’t know the final cut was notably better, so I’m not the only one making assumptions, however, given Lucas’ own admission that he couldn’t do much to improve it, other than diminish the effects of it, it seems logical to conclude the final version isn’t too far off the one they were viewing, and the fact that they were fine tuning the editing of the climax until the movie shipped out, indicates they weren’t satisfied with the climax up till the end. The issues discussed are related to Lucas’ choice to go for a four act structure, which results in the audience being jerked around from scene to scene. The tonal differences between the scenes with Jar Jar comedic antics in one scene, and Qui-Gon Jinn’s emotional death scene in another, and other scenes surrounding them, are very much intact in the final film, and consistent with the criticisms Ben Burt leveled at cut they screened internally.

Look it’s obvious you really like the prequels, and that’s fine. I enjoy them, but also feel they are flawed on many levels. It seems you reject the “gone too far in some places” comment, because you don’t want it to be applicable to the final cut, not because there is much circumstantial evidence the final cut is markedly different, while I think if you look at it objectively (not a point of view biased by love or hate for the film), it’s logical to conclude Lucas was and is aware of some of the flaws in the film, and tried to improve it where he could, but was also aware, that at that stage in the production, they could only dull the symptoms somewhat, but not remove the cause, the four act structure, and the tonal issues that come with it.

In any case this thread is supposed to be about the 4K restorations of the OT, not about the prequels, so this will be the last I will say on the subject.

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pleasehello said:

MikeWW said:

You don’t know that that cut wasn’t notably worse than what Lucas ended up with.

I don’t see how it could’ve been much worse.

Use your imagination and it’s very easy.
For instance, the only awkward transition IMO is Qui Gon’s death into “My Give Up” with Jar Jar.
But imagine if the transition didn’t have Williams’ music and that sweeping shot of the battlefield before we see Jar Jar.

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DrDre said:

MikeWW said:

DrDre said:

MikeWW said:

Mocata said:

George didn’t seem to care about how bumpy things looked, just look at the Phantom Menace features. Now it’s all fluff.

Funny thing about that is that everyone pretends that he was watching something close to final when he made the “too far in a few places” comment.

We know he did, because Ben Burt gives us a sequence of events, that closely follows the final movie, pointing out the tonal issues to Lucas, and Lucas himself admits there’s little he can do about it at that stage, because of the way the movie has been constructed.

You assume way too much though. You have no idea what Lucas did or didn’t do to “diminish the effects of it”, because they don’t show the footage.

But speaking of Ben Burtt and the TPM finale, in the commentary track when Obi Wan kills Darth Maul, Burtt talks about how they were fine tuning the editing of the climax up until basically the minute they shipped the movie out, which would have been much later than the time of the “too far in a few places” screening.

You don’t know that that cut wasn’t notably worse than what Lucas ended up with.

You don’t know the final cut was notably better, so I’m not the only one making assumptions, however, given Lucas’ own admission that he couldn’t do much to improve it, other than diminish the effects of it, it seems logical to conclude the final version isn’t too far off the one they were viewing, and the fact that they were fine tuning the editing of the climax until the movie shipped out, indicates they weren’t satisfied with the climax up till the end. The issues discussed are related to Lucas’ choice to go for a four act structure, which results in the audience being jerked around from scene to scene. The tonal differences between the scenes with Jar Jar comedic antics in one scene, and Qui-Gon Jinn’s emotional death scene in another, and other scenes surrounding them, are very much intact in the final film, and consistent with the criticisms Ben Burt leveled at cut they screened internally.

Look it’s obvious you really like the prequels, and that’s fine. I enjoy them, but also feel they are flawed on many levels. It seems you reject the “gone too far in some places” comment, because you don’t want it to be applicable to the final cut, not because there is much circumstantial evidence the final cut is markedly different, while I think if you look at it objectively (not a point of view biased by love or hate for the film), it’s logical to conclude Lucas was and is aware of some of the flaws in the film, and tried to improve it where he could, but was also aware, that at that stage in the production, they could only dull the symptoms somewhat, but not remove the cause, the four act structure, and the tonal issues that come with it.

In any case this thread is supposed to be about the 4K restorations of the OT, not about the prequels, so this will be the last I will say on the subject.

And the only other thing I’ll say is that, for example, Peter Jackson says the exact same thing about tinkering with LotR until the second it has to be shipped out.
You’re taking aneutral thing and wrenching it into evidence.

Also, see my post directly above this one.
I’d say that he really only went too far in 1 place in the final cut, not a few places.