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I guess I’ll be “that guy” and at least give kudos to Avatar for giving me the only great 3D experience I’ve had in the theater. The movie itself isn’t anything special but a decent alternate take on Pocahontas. But I still remember literally everything popping out of the silver screen, not just a single arrow. Since then I’ve pretty much given up on 3D because majority of the movies just do the “background layer / characters in front” gimmicks.

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Most movies since then have been lousy conversions. It’s a pity the good stuff from the 50’s isn’t revived around Halloween so modern audiences can see what a good 3D film is actually like. Not like they have to make prints anymore.

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SilverWook said:

Most movies since then have been lousy conversions. It’s a pity the good stuff from the 50’s isn’t revived around Halloween so modern audiences can see what a good 3D film is actually like. Not like they have to make prints anymore.

Totally agree! I’ve brought this up before and most people seem to think that those films only exploited corny tricks like something sticking out towards the lens every once in awhile. It also seems that most people don’t think movies got good until the late 70’s…
I did think the 3D in Prometheus was done very well. Again, shame about the movie itself.

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Biggs in ANH edit idea
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To bring the Avatar conversation back around to Star Wars, Cameron essentially took what Lucas was doing with AotC and RotS and went a few steps further.

The sony cameras used were only slightly better versions of the same 2/3” ones used for the latter two prequels. The big difference obviously is that for Avatar they were arranged into beamsplitter rigs to shoot in native stereo.

Instead of shooting everything against greenscreen, more than half the movie was MoCap’d without even using actual cameras.

Most significant of all is the digital character work ILM had started with Jar Jar in TPM and Weta had expanded with Gollum and Kong. The animation for the Na’vi came pretty darn close to bridging the uncanny valley, although it probably helped that they weren’t supposed to represent recognizable human characters like Tarkin in Rogue One.

Circa 2011 I remember thinking for sure that when George inevitably went back on his word and made the ST that it would be a native stereo production, probably using RED cameras.

Then the Disney deal happened and they hired JJ to direct. There went any chance it wouldn’t be shot the exact same way as the OT (and JJ’s other movies).

But by that point the post-conversion tech had actually gotten pretty good and had become more about the extra surcharge anyway, so by the time Episode VII was actually made it didn’t matter one way or the other how it was shot.

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ray_afraid said:

moviefreakedmind said:

My question is, what would prompt you to pirate a fanedit if they released the OUT on blu ray?

I literally just answered that.

No you didn’t. Not specifically at all. What problems would prompt you to go for a fan edit if the OT were actually released on blu ray?

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I’m not a huge fan of Abrams, but his flag-waving for 35mm earns him lots of points in my book.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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Mike O said:

I’m not a huge fan of Abrams, but his flag-waving for 35mm earns him lots of points in my book.

I wonder if Abrams will keep Trevorrow’s plans to shoot IX in 65mm, or if he will continue using 35.

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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I was under the impression that both he and Rian didn’t shoot their films on 65mm purely for logistical reasons having to do with availability of equipment. If Trevorrow had everything lined up to shoot large format, I think Abrams will most likely take advantage of it.

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When Trevorrow said he would shoot all of IX in 65mm I assumed he meant traditional 5-perf spherical 65mm aka Super Panavision which he used for some of Jurassic World. Abrams has only shot his movies in cinemascope, with some of STID and TFA shot in Imax (Johnson is doing the same for TLJ).

I wonder if JJ will follow Nolan’s lead and shoot all of Ep9 on 65mm stock with some of it in Imax.

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Probably doesn’t mean squat, but the blu-ray.com listings for SW, Empire and Jedi have been updated with nice, high-res cover art images (framed by BD packaging) based on original poster art (but not simply the posters). I don’t know if this site is privy to any special information or not, but seems odd that someone on the site would just go make these high-res images for shits. They previously just had the theatrical posters as placeholders. Reverse image search gives no results.

Also, OT box steeply discounted to $20 on Amazon… that’s really cheap

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Episode-IV-A-New-Hope-Blu-ray/7544/
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Episode-V-The-Empire-Strikes-Back-Blu-ray/7545/
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Blu-ray/7546/

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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Hard to imagine pics like that are a mistake. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are new individual (nonsteelbook) BDs out in a couple months.

Same discs, of course.

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but where did they come from? I though that website was independent/not affiliated. Are there industry insiders on the ‘staff’ who leak things in this way?

Edit: if they’re real, those covers speak OUT to me. No ‘Episode’, no ‘New Hope.’

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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No idea. I mean, I guess I don’t know a whole lot about the site, but it’s always seemed reputable to me. One would imagine that if they’ve added blur-ray covers there’d be a reason.

Then again, no announcement? The site usually has news about stuff like that, even if it’s as non-news worthy as “same discs, new packaging.”

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Those look exactly like the Harmy discs some people were trying to sell a few months back. Is it real or is someone over at that site just screwing around?

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Looking at that TESB cover, it’s actually a bit different from the original poster. It’s not just a crop and frame job. Addition of Yoda, Cloud City, Lando, Boba Fett, Hoth defensive canon. Also brighter colors, more red, generally less hazy. Looks like something new and original.

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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There were several different versions of that poster back in 1980 - the first one without Yoda, the second one with Yoda, and the third one with Lando, Fett and the other stuff. Maybe one or two further variations than that. The one with Yoda but without the other extra stuff was used for the VHS and Laserdisc covers IIRC.

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Yeah theres been versions of that poster used as art with at least lando (but probably the others too but lando is the one I definitely remember) since at least the early 90s VHS tapes.

It seems that’s a new rerelease yet to happen. If you go the listing you posted you can’t check out reviews for that edition because it isn’t out yet but you can pre-order it. Who knows