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I’ve seen a few other cels from the deleted footage pop up over the years. Hopefully Disney will give the movie a little Hi Def love one of these days. They’ve released just about everything else on Blu Ray at this point, except Song Of The South of course.

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There’ll be a hockey franchise in Hades before Disney ever releases original cuts of any of their films again.

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I could live with the deleted footage included as an extra.

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SilverWook said:

I’ve seen a few other cels from the deleted footage pop up over the years. Hopefully Disney will give the movie a little Hi Def love one of these days. They’ve released just about everything else on Blu Ray at this point, except Song Of The South of course.

No ‘The Black Hole’ on blu yet. Bah!

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Wolfman said:

SilverWook said:

I’ve seen a few other cels from the deleted footage pop up over the years. Hopefully Disney will give the movie a little Hi Def love one of these days. They’ve released just about everything else on Blu Ray at this point, except Song Of The South of course.

No ‘The Black Hole’ on blu yet. Bah!

There’s an HD master out there, but I thought maybe it was being held back because of the remake (which seems to be in limbo) the way Tron was out of print ahead of Legacy.

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I just hate all the damn speculating. I wish Disney would give some kind of damn statement. But of course they don’t want to give any misinformation, so they probably just want to keep mum. 2020 seems so far away 😦.

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Something that occurred to me in light of the recent Episode IX release date shift:

A December theatrical release means an April, 2020 dvd/blu/4k release. Disney gets the rights back to Empire, Jedi, and the prequels in May of 2020, and we’re already getting another Indy movie that July (released by Paramount) in addition to God knows how many Marvel movies. That includes Guardians vol 3 which will presumably hit theaters that first weekend in May.

Maybe the powers that be will decide not to release a new Star Wars movie that year. They can’t in December without bumping up against Avatar 2. I could easily see them scheduling Obi-Wan for May of 2021 (we’re already getting a year and a half between movies since Han Solo isn’t budging from May of next year).

I say all of this because I think it’s a distinct possibility 2020 ends up being the “hiatus” year from new Star Wars movies. It only makes sense. I mean, do they really want to be pushing Obi-Wan only a few months after the grand conclusion of the saga? I expect a similar cool-down period for Marvel movies after Avengers 4.

I’m thinking they’ll use September of 2020 as their release window for what will be a big expensive I-IX boxset you’ll have to buy just to get the restored OOT.

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Honestly can’t imagine them forcing the PT on OUT consumers. Could you imagine the ill will that would provoke?

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Honestly can’t imagine them forcing the PT on OUT consumers. Could you imagine the ill will that would provoke?

I used to say that I’d buy the whole big 9 movie set if it meant that I could also get the OOT.
There’s no way I’d do that now. They’ve waited too long and the fan restorations have gotten too good.
I’d gladly buy if it’s released on it’s own, or even packaged with the SE. But I’m not forkin’ over the amount of cash that a big boxset of movies would demand just for 3 movies.

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They’d be more like to release a set that includes all the original cuts including the PT theatricals, since they can sell it as a “SAGA”. That or they do nothing. I’m betting on nothing.

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Fang Zei said:
I’m thinking they’ll use September of 2020 as their release window for what will be a big expensive I-IX boxset you’ll have to buy just to get the restored OOT.

I wouldn’t pay for it.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Honestly can’t imagine them forcing the PT on OUT consumers. Could you imagine the ill will that would provoke?

I don’t think ill will would factor in, I just think that almost no one would buy it. All it’d take would be for one person to get it and illegally upload it online and almost no one would be willing to pay crazy money when they can illegally download films they’ve probably already illegally downloaded before.

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Mike O said:

I just hate all the damn speculating. I wish Disney would give some kind of damn statement.

They already did. Kathleen Kennedy already said it’s not going to happen. Just a bunch of people who can’t take a hint and like to bury their heads in the sand.

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It was a cryptic answer to a badly worded question. If I was that guy I’d be mentally kicking myself for a long time over that.

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I wouldn’t even call it a cryptic answer since she clearly had no idea what he was talking about. Honestly, if it weren’t for the article’s headline, I wouldn’t have been completely sure he was talking about the OOT either.

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Disney would never make a statement about it because their statement would be “we’re waiting until we get the rights to Empire, Jedi, and the prequels in 2020 before we do any new release whatsoever that isn’t a repackagaging of the 2011 discs.”

It would be insanely awkward for them to say that, which is why they’ll simply say nothing until they actually are working on something.

After reading the responses to my comment about a I-IX boxset, I think it’s more likely they release the films individually and, at the very least, make each OT movie its own two-disc set. For one thing, the profits from sales of ANH would go straight to Fox and they wouldn’t need to worry about auditing Disney to make sure they’re getting their full amount from sales of a big I-VI or I-IX set.

Of course, I’d love to see the '97 versions included as well, and the theatrical prequels (and the imax cut of AOTC).

I haven’t even brought up the likely possibility that this will be the debut of I-VI on the new 4K UHD format. Now that Disney finally jumped on that Bandwagon last month (Fox was actually the very first studio to announce titles almost two years ago) they might get TFA and RO out on 4k before the holidays and then we’ll see TLJ hit the format in April.

With Indy 5 hitting theaters in July of 2020, I wonder how Paramount will handle the rollout of the first four on UHD. The 2012 blu-ray transfers of Temple and Crusade used the 2008 masters (which showed up as the WoWoW broadcasts around that time), but those were only finished at 2k unless I’m mistaken. Maybe they’ll redo those scans to take advantage of the extra resolution. Raiders was redone yet again with a 6k scan and 4k finish. Crystal Skull was finished at 2k (at least according to imdb), which is too bad but it makes sense considering all the cgi, none of which would’ve been rendered above that resolution.

Close Encounters hits 4k this month, with all three versions on the same disc using seamless branching just like the 2007 release. The OT movies have so many differences once you hit '97 that it would be impossible to branch them onto the same disc, although it might be possible to do that for the '97/'04/'11 versions.

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Fang Zei said:

After reading the responses to my comment about a I-IX boxset, I think it’s more likely they release the films individually and, at the very least, make each OT movie its own two-disc set.

This probably the only way they’ll get my money. They’ve waited too long and I’m too happy with the fan restorations I’ve got.
I don’t want any version of the SE or PT and I will not buy things I don’t want to get the small part I do want.

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Fang Zei said:

With Indy 5 hitting theaters in July of 2020, I wonder how Paramount will handle the rollout of the first four on UHD. The 2012 blu-ray transfers of Temple and Crusade used the 2008 masters (which showed up as the WoWoW broadcasts around that time), but those were only finished at 2k unless I’m mistaken. Maybe they’ll redo those scans to take advantage of the extra resolution. Raiders was redone yet again with a 6k scan and 4k finish. Crystal Skull was finished at 2k (at least according to imdb), which is too bad but it makes sense considering all the cgi, none of which would’ve been rendered above that resolution.

Most(?) movies are finished at 2k, so this isn’t unprecedented. The real benefit of UHD is the expanded color profile.

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ray_afraid said:

Fang Zei said:

After reading the responses to my comment about a I-IX boxset, I think it’s more likely they release the films individually and, at the very least, make each OT movie its own two-disc set.

This probably the only way they’ll get my money. They’ve waited too long and I’m too happy with the fan restorations I’ve got.
I don’t want any version of the SE or PT and I will not buy things I don’t want to get the small part I do want.

It’s more the principle of the thing at this point. The OOT should be officially restored if for no other reason than that it’s part of our cultural heritage. Lucasfilm (and possibly Fox) is the only possessor of higher quality sources like interpositives, separation masters, and the o-neg itself. Therefore, we shouldn’t have to settle for even the best possible fan restoration when it could look and sound even better.

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Fang Zei said:

ray_afraid said:

Fang Zei said:

After reading the responses to my comment about a I-IX boxset, I think it’s more likely they release the films individually and, at the very least, make each OT movie its own two-disc set.

This probably the only way they’ll get my money. They’ve waited too long and I’m too happy with the fan restorations I’ve got.
I don’t want any version of the SE or PT and I will not buy things I don’t want to get the small part I do want.

It’s more the principle of the thing at this point. The OOT should be officially restored if for no other reason than that it’s part of our cultural heritage. Lucasfilm (and possibly Fox) is the only possessor of higher quality sources like interpositives, separation masters, and the o-neg itself. Therefore, we shouldn’t have to settle for even the best possible fan restoration when it could look and sound even better.

Oh, I totally agree.
I’m just sayin’ that if they are expecting all the OUT fans to buy a big box full of movies they don’t like, they’ve waited too long for me.
If they do release each film separately (doubt it) or an OUT set (doubt that too) then I’ll bite. But that’s the only way they’re ever getting any money outta me.

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ray_afraid said:

Fang Zei said:

ray_afraid said:

Fang Zei said:

After reading the responses to my comment about a I-IX boxset, I think it’s more likely they release the films individually and, at the very least, make each OT movie its own two-disc set.

This probably the only way they’ll get my money. They’ve waited too long and I’m too happy with the fan restorations I’ve got.
I don’t want any version of the SE or PT and I will not buy things I don’t want to get the small part I do want.

It’s more the principle of the thing at this point. The OOT should be officially restored if for no other reason than that it’s part of our cultural heritage. Lucasfilm (and possibly Fox) is the only possessor of higher quality sources like interpositives, separation masters, and the o-neg itself. Therefore, we shouldn’t have to settle for even the best possible fan restoration when it could look and sound even better.

Oh, I totally agree.
I’m just sayin’ that if they are expecting all the OUT fans to buy a big box full of movies they don’t like, they’ve waited too long for me.
If they do release each film separately (doubt it) or an OUT set (doubt that too) then I’ll bite. But that’s the only way they’re ever getting any money outta me.

Pretty much agree with this.

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I just can’t see the OOT ever getting released on its own. As a 2nd disc feature, maybe.

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YodaFan67 said:

I just can’t see the OOT ever getting released on its own. As a 2nd disc feature, maybe.

I’d buy a set with both SE and OUT cuts without hesitation. It’s the prequels that would aggravate me. But Lucasfilm has never forced the prequels on people who don’t want them. They have OT sets and have released individual titles as well.

The mere fact of the huge SW pirate market should be motivation enough for them not to force OUT buyers to pay for the prequels.

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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Alderaan said:

Mike O said:

I just hate all the damn speculating. I wish Disney would give some kind of damn statement.

They already did. Kathleen Kennedy already said it’s not going to happen. Just a bunch of people who can’t take a hint and like to bury their heads in the sand.

I didn’t hear that, but heartbreaking as it is, it’s not surprising.

YodaFan67 said:

I just can’t see the OOT ever getting released on its own. As a 2nd disc feature, maybe.

IF the OOT was restored correctly, and I mean 100% correctly, I’d be more than happy to pay virtually any price, and putting it in a big boxed set seems the most likely scenario to squeeze more money out of the small fanbase.

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Mike O said:

Alderaan said:

They already did. Kathleen Kennedy already said it’s not going to happen. Just a bunch of people who can’t take a hint and like to bury their heads in the sand.

I didn’t hear that, but heartbreaking as it is, it’s not surprising.

FYI, she didn’t. Granted, she hasn’t said the opposite either.

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.