47 Ronin - Your Thoughts

I watched this the other day and I have to say I found it not only refreshing amongst nonsense over the top CGI movies with unrealistic physics, but also could not but help think that it had me engaged in the main story of the film and I did care for the characters somewhat.

So Why make this thread well, I cannot help but feel that this movie got chopped up quite a bit and although critics slammed it into the garbage I think there is potentially a much better cut which we will never get to see.

So I don't mind if you hate this film but I do actually find more interesting was a targeted media campaign to destroy any hope of the film having any success what so ever before it was even released.

In terms of the removal of the director and a studio executive taking over to re-edit and re-shoot scenes to involve Keeanu Reeves character more in to the plot. I find even more compelling of what the original cut might have been like?

Basically people moaned about all sorts of things that it was too slow, and not enough action after it's release when actually It has a nice dose of action that is not over the top and again a slower film that was probably targeted towards more adult aged people has been changed to try and bring in the kids of 12 years old and what not.

Whilst nothing wrong with making it more accessible to kids, the films main material / plot is however something children really may not consider interesting and just "Want" to see the next action sequence. When the film is not about action in the slightest and the conflict resulting on the Director being sacked off is no doubt to the movie not being related to kiddie comic book action flick rather than the actual remnants of the film we see lying bare still contained within the film of more Drama, Fantasy, and small doses of action that is grounded within physical reality unlike a Michael Bay, or Peter Jackson CGI Heavy unrealistic charade.

There is also the subject of weather or not real History stories should be made in to fairy tales and many people hated on it for making a fairy tale out of real important Japanese culturally historical event.

There is also the Japanese Language version of the film as all scenes were filmed twice I imagine.

As we know that there was an alternative cut of the film which was extensively edited and twice for that matter, I would really like to see the original cut of this film in both English and Japanese with Subtitles, and I wondered if anyone else feels the same way and would also like to encourage a bit of discussion about this film in general.

Edit: It was only filmed in English not in Both Languages as I had thought. It was Japanese sub's

What do you think about this film?

Ronster said:

What do you think about this film?

Haven't seen it.

I liked Ronin.  Can't go wrong with De Niro and Reno.  But I have to admit that even thought the next few movies were pretty good, the last 42 movies were pretty tiring.  Doubt I'll bother with this one.

Ha Ha :)

There won't be a sequel to 47 Ronin  let me tell you that much for many reasons.

Well what I will say about the film is it is a bit clunky at the start but once it get's in the swing of it, It is not bad at all.

It is visually striking and the sets and the costumes are some of the best I have seen in a long time in a film. The action is not too over the top and it does not stick to common modern film making techniques but garners more to older styles of film making.

It does not come highly praised from me but I will say, ignore the critics and give it a try. It's not 13 Assassins or a Kurosawa film but It does have something going for it and I think what is most interesting about it is, that it's another classic studio butcher job. I think this film will become a cult movie in years to come. Because of the clearly missing material that one can sense whilst watching it and obvious cut's to running time for the sake of studio's mind set on what is acceptable for a theatrical release.

Saw it about three weeks ago and remember virtually nothing about it, except that the skeleton tattooed guy that looked so cool in the huge promotional set-up I saw for it at the theater last year was only in it for like two flashing, wordless shots.

Oh, and the "nonsense over the top CGI with unrealistic physics."  I remember that too.