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That's inflation for you.

When I was a kid you could get hyperbole for that price.

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Baronlando said:

3.5 million for 30 seconds. 

They dropped that much for a commercial and they can't afford to fix the originals???  Aaaargh...

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Jetrell Fo said:

The Episode II and III 3D releases have been postponed.


http://starwars.com/news/focusing-on-star-wars-episode-vii-lucasfilm-postpones-episodes-ii-and-iii-3d.html

To me that is good news.  Now how about a restored oot cinema release not on dlp but actual film, to be followed up by the episode 7 premiere.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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You're insane if you think Disney will rerelease the movies on film. That's just being picky beyond all reason. More often than not a DLP turns out better than a traditional projection anyway because nobody knows how to handle film anymore.

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Sadly, the newest theaters don't even have film projectors as far as I can tell.

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My experience is the opposite BKev Batman Dark Knight Rises DLP was inferior to the film print it sucked.

Perhaps it was the projector bulb at fault but never paying for dlp in that particular theater again if they have it on film.

The blu ray image is miles ahead of the DLP projection i saw that is pathetic.

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SilverWook said:

Sadly, the newest theaters don't even have film projectors as far as I can tell.

And why would they? I think most theaters today pretty much go through a similar process to playing a video file on a PC connected to a projector. Everything is digital today, so why go through the lossy conversion to film?

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Backwards compatibility? Not every film in existence has been digitized yet. One film projector equipped screen out of a ten screen multiplex is a modest investment. Although the lack of people who know how to run them may make it a moot point.

The new format is already causing problems with film festivals that often have last minute scheduling changes of venue. The encryption keys are apparently very time sensitive.

Has anybody peeked in the windows of older theaters to see if the film projectors were left in place?

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While we're discussing projectors (sorry to be off topic) but I've always wondered:  how do the digital versions get sent to theaters?  Are they on harddrives?  They must be huge files, right?

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My guess for lossless 4K would be around 1-2TB (or less depending on the method of compression and color depth), which is not all that huge in today's terms. And yes, AFAIK they are delivered on special ecrypted HDDs.

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My experience is the opposite BKev Batman Dark Knight Rises DLP was inferior to the film print it sucked.

Perhaps it was the projector bulb at fault but never paying for dlp in that particular theater again if they have it on film.

The blu ray image is miles ahead of the DLP projection i saw that is pathetic.

I can't comment on this one as all 3 engagements I saw were on film. Apparently, Nolan holds enough sway over things to specifically request that the movie was played on film wherever possible.

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Harmy said:


My guess for lossless 4K would be around 1-2TB (or less depending on the method of compression and color depth), which is not all that huge in today's terms. And yes, AFAIK they are delivered on special ecrypted HDDs.
My projectionist friends say this is the case.

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A 2TB HDD is much cheaper than making a film-print, so in terms of economy, digital wins. But I've seen both beautiful and really bad film projection and beautiful and really bad digital projection - I went to see a French film in a cinema on Leicester Square in London last year and it was the tiniest screen with worse digital projection quality than a 720p data projector a friend of mine used to have - truly horrible but then I also saw some films in digital on huge screens, where I wouldn't have been able to tell it wasn't a perfectly pristine early generation film print (if it wasn't for the obviously digital Czech subtitles) and those were only 2K, so I imagine a high quality 4K projection could be amazing.

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From what I've read, the initial expense of upgrading is pretty steep for small independent revival houses, whose bread and butter are old movies.

The upside of digital projection is the technical problems that plagued 3D in the old days are moot. Still keeping my fingers crossed the studios reissue a classic 3D film or two.

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bkev said:

More often than not a DLP turns out better than a traditional projection anyway because nobody knows how to handle film anymore.

 

I can't imagine this is based on official facts because there are apparently quite a few projectionists throughout the country & the world that would rather be working with film instead of digital. 

Do you have a link to some numbers on that bkev?

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News today: The 3D-converted edition of Attack of the Clones will be screened at Celebration Europe this summer.

News items on the official CEII site

Not that I would see it myself... Not a fan of "3D" -- most movies I have seen with the same projection technology (RealD) have been too dark and there has been too much "crosstalk" between the left and the right eye. Maybe, maybe if it is free of charge and I am bored, with nothing better to do at the convention, but I doubt that would happen..

 

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If I were WALTD3000 I would hand out the 3D versions free to cinema managers so they could get buns on seats for a cut price to watch Star Wars films in cinemas as part of the build up to the the sequel trilogy.

The PT is still flawed but it would be positive gesture and could spread the convention buzz to every multiplex in the world.

The Doctor Who anniversary episode is getting a limited 3d cinema release.

You've got to have a gimmick.

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If I were WALTD3000 I would hand out the 3D versions free to cinema managers so they could get buns on seats for a cut price to watch Star Wars films in cinemas as part of the build up to the the sequel trilogy.

The PT is still flawed but it would be positive gesture and could spread the convention buzz to every multiplex in the world.

The Doctor Who anniversary episode is getting a limited 3d cinema release.

You've got to have a gimmick.

Like that's going to happen...

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That's what a Lucasuit might say but Disney might be a bit smarter than that.

Almost everyone who would buy the blu-rays have them now (so nothing to lose and possibly pushing a few more sales off the back of the re-issue is a small win) and we are about to be bombarded with lots of new material so a bargain run of the old stuff dragged up for the current decade might be the way to make more money.

It's like a pre-made advert and chances are no matter what these new films are like they will probably be better than the PT especially if the Lindel isn't involved.

 

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Good point... I am just saying that a 3d re-release will bomb... If the new films are good fine

but I won't be going to the cinema to watch any PT Star wars ever again

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I predict that AOTR will accidentally be screened instead. Mass confusion and rioting ensues when they attempt to correct the error. ;)

Seriously though, this could be a way to avoid the "direct to video" perception if the other conversions are done, but Disney isn't keen on a theatrical release.

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SilverWook said:

I predict that AOTR will accidentally be screened instead. Mass confusion and rioting ensues when they attempt to correct the error. ;)

Maybe people will say to themselves Hayden isn't as bad as I remember but the hair...

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As I said earlier in this thread, I saw the RotS blu-ray projected onto a 100"+ screen at my relatives' place and it was mind-blowing just how three-dimensional the movie already is. If they take their time and don't screw up the conversion, they've got their work cut out for them.

The only problem, as has been stated, are people's memories of the movie itself, memories kept fresh in our minds by Mr. Plinkett's reviews.

People will turn out in significant numbers and pay actual money to see the OT-SE in 3D in theaters (not me). That's how much good will those movies have earned.

The prequels will always be the prequels.

At least they've already gotten Episode I out of the way.

A 3D re-release of the OT is an inevitability at this point. Titanic and Jurassic Park have already gotten that treatment. Just the other day it was announced the 3D conversion of Wizard of Oz will screen in September. Ya think Disney and Lucasfilm wouldn't want to add Star Wars to the list and finally knock Gone with the Wind from its #1 all-time adjusted box office record?

So, the only question now is how they roll it out. I'm sure they'll figure out something.

Also, with all-day franchise marathons in theaters becoming a thing now (Avengers, Dark Knight Rises and Twilight all did it last year), I'm betting we'll see something similar happen the day before Ep7's release (again, count me the hell out).

The only other big question is how Disney and Fox will work things out.

It's my NSHO that 20th Century Fox should at the very least have perpetual theatrical distribution rights to any existing or future Star Wars movie with "Episode" in the title. The thought of an Episode VII without that fanfare is kinda depressing, honestly.

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I still think they could work something out. Disney has partnered with other studios before in the past. None of the current Marvel films actually has a Disney logo at the beginning do they?

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