2014 Sochi Winter Olympic Games — Page 4

Ryan McAvoy said:

Warbler said: If Puggo can give his opinion about Johnny Weir, I can give mine. 

 Yes you can and I never said you couldn't, I just pointed out that a personal opinion isn't a "Stereotype".

not every personal opinion is,  but some are.   You agreed gay men being effeminte is a stereotype,   thinking gay men are effeminate is also a personal opinion.

Ryan McAvoy said:

Warbler said: Here is Wikipedia's diffinition of steorotype:

A stereotype is a thought that may be adopted about specific types of individuals or certain ways of doing things.^[1]These thoughts or beliefs may or may not accurately reflect reality

 Well then Wikipedia is wrong, as is its wont.

if you say so.

Ryan McAvoy said:

The statement "may or may not accurately reflect reality" should be "does not accurately reflect reality", that is one of the things that defines a stereotype. It's a broad generalisation that distorts the truth and is therefore inherently false.

well unless you wish to say that gays being weird reflects reality,  then it is a think which "does not accurately reflect reality" so therefore stereotype could apply.

Ryan McAvoy said:

Let me give an example of a stereotype and since I'm from the UK... a stereotype would be that "British food is terrible". The food in tourist traps in London is awful which I'm sure is where that misconception arrises. Infact the UK has more Michelin restaurants than the US despite the US being a vastly more populous country. But your statement would have been akin to "British food is terrible because it comes from Mars". The former is a stereotype the later is just some crazy nonsense (That you are free to believe if you want to).

 somehow, British food coming from Mars does seem to compare well with gays being weirdos.  I doubt have ever been many that thought British food came from mars.   Yet,  it was widely held that gays were weird.   My point was that Johnny Weir feeds into that belief(it is not a belief I hold).

bkev said:

Cut Warb some slack, he's a Philadelphia fan.  Those two things always mix in anger and disappointment. :P

 grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

Ryan McAvoy said:

Warbler said: some stuff

 I give up you win.

Ryan McAvoy said:

Warbler said: some stuff

 I give up you win.

 um . . . ok . . .

Ryan McAvoy said:

Britain vs Canada for the gold in the Men's curling final this afternoon 1.30pm. Been quite getting into the sport this week despite not having a clue how the scoring works LOL. Apparently Canada are the favourites so the Brits are the underdogs which is how we like it (That's the stereotype anyway ;-)  )

Sir David Attenborough does a special spoof curling commentary...

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/02/19/david-attenborough-curling-video_n_4813680.html

I'm sure Alex Salmond will be on a plane to Sochi right now so he bask in the reflective glory if they win ;-)

Probably not, unlike Davids Cameron and Bowie he lives and works in Scotland.

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

I didn't wear jeans until I turned 30 (found out they are comfortable and great for gardening etc).

 and your point is?

The point is sort of obvious.

I didn't wear jeans for the majority of my life but I gave it a go and not only did it not hurt but yielded dividends. Some people find it normal to wear jeans,

Your ideas of normality (or normalcy as you may call it) seem to be very restrictive.

Normal is a position on a Venn diagram nothing more.

It holds no importance of genuine value.

All it means is the majority of people do things one way (now and where you live), rather than another way.

What you call weirdos are also another position on a Venn diagram nothing more.

They hold no importance or genuine value being there beyond people elsewhere.

*sigh* The Men's lost to Canada 0-1.   

Dear American Men's Olympic Ice Hockey Team,

Well, you yet again blew it to Canada.   I don't even have the words right now.  You couldn't even score one lousy point against them.   Go hang your heads in shame.  They should give you guys medals made out of cheap plastic with an "L" on them, for losers. 

Sincerely,

The Warbler

P.S.  I could care less whether or not you win the Bronze.

Dear both American Olympic Ice Hockey Teams,

You've let Canadan make us their b****.  What the #*%& is with you guys and Canada?!?!  Does the sight a maple leaf scare you and make you unable to play hockey?!?!?   The powers that be need to make some big changes and find out why the #^*% we can't be Canada.  It is a good thing for you that I am not in charge of American.  If I were, I'd have you all deported.

Sincerely,

The Warbler  

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

I didn't wear jeans until I turned 30 (found out they are comfortable and great for gardening etc).

 and your point is?

The point is sort of obvious.

I didn't wear jeans for the majority of my life but I gave it a go and not only did it not hurt but yielded dividends. Some people find it normal to wear jeans,

Your ideas of normality (or normalcy as you may call it) seem to be very restrictive.

Normal is a position on a Venn diagram nothing more.

It holds no importance of genuine value.

All it means is the majority of people do things one way (now and where you live), rather than another way.

What you call weirdos are also another position on a Venn diagram nothing more.

They hold no importance or genuine value being there beyond people elsewhere.

 Venn diagram?  I have never heard of that. 

What if Weir decided wanted to do the Ice Skating commentary in a suit of armor or using newspapers as clothing or in the nude?   That wouldn't be weird?  Tell me honestly,  if you saw someone take piss into a cup and then pick up that cup and drink the piss, that wouldn't be weird?  So there is no such thing as weird?  really? 

I will however agree it is very possible that my ideas normality could be very restrictive.   I admit to being old fashioned and traditionalistic.   

Warbler said:

*sigh* The Men's lost to Canada 0-1.   

Dear American Men's Olympic Ice Hockey Team,

Well, you yet again blew it to Canada.   I don't even have the words right now.  You couldn't even score one lousy point against them.   Go hang your heads in shame.  They should give you guys medals made out of cheap plastic with an "L" on them, for losers. 

Sincerely,

The Warbler

P.S.  I could care less whether or not you win the Bronze.

 

 

Dear both American Olympic Ice Hockey Teams,

You've let Canadan make us their b****.  What the #*%& is with you guys and Canada?!?!  Does the sight a maple leaf scare you and make you unable to play hockey?!?!?   The powers that be need to make some big changes and find out why the #^*% we can't be Canada.  It is a good thing for you that I am not in charge of American.  If I were, I'd have you all deported.

Sincerely,

The Warbler  

 Is it possible that they just had the better team?  The answer is yes.

I wish Wier would do his commentary in a suit of armor.

Crikey I thought everyone did Set Theory in Mathematics at school.

Here is a Venn diagram and it's on topic too :-D

Nude ice skating isn't normal but it might be more interesting depending on how it was done.

As for weird

?

Bingowings said:

Crikey I thought everyone did Set Theory in Mathematics at school.

Here is a Venn diagram and it's on topic too :-D

Nude ice skating isn't normal but it might be more interesting depending on how it was done.

As for weird

?

 I fail to see what point you are making with the pics and the video.  But yes, that video you linked to is weird.   As for set theory, I think I may have had that in some class years ago, but I don't remember them calling it a Venn Diagram.

In the Winter Olympics it's referred to as a Vonn Diagram.

TV's Frink said:

Warbler said:

*sigh* The Men's lost to Canada 0-1.   

Dear American Men's Olympic Ice Hockey Team,

Well, you yet again blew it to Canada.   I don't even have the words right now.  You couldn't even score one lousy point against them.   Go hang your heads in shame.  They should give you guys medals made out of cheap plastic with an "L" on them, for losers. 

Sincerely,

The Warbler

P.S.  I could care less whether or not you win the Bronze.

 

 

Dear both American Olympic Ice Hockey Teams,

You've let Canadan make us their b****.  What the #*%& is with you guys and Canada?!?!  Does the sight a maple leaf scare you and make you unable to play hockey?!?!?   The powers that be need to make some big changes and find out why the #^*% we can't be Canada.  It is a good thing for you that I am not in charge of American.  If I were, I'd have you all deported.

Sincerely,

The Warbler  

 Is it possible that they just had the better team?  The answer is yes.

The women blew a two lead with less than 4 minutes to go in the game.  They choked.  

The men couldn't even score one lousy point and, correct me if I am wrong, were higher seeded in the tournament than the Canadians. 

Did our teams really perform to the best of their abilities? The anser is no.

Warbler said:

TV's Frink said:

Warbler said:

*sigh* The Men's lost to Canada 0-1.   

Dear American Men's Olympic Ice Hockey Team,

Well, you yet again blew it to Canada.   I don't even have the words right now.  You couldn't even score one lousy point against them.   Go hang your heads in shame.  They should give you guys medals made out of cheap plastic with an "L" on them, for losers. 

Sincerely,

The Warbler

P.S.  I could care less whether or not you win the Bronze.

 

 

Dear both American Olympic Ice Hockey Teams,

You've let Canadan make us their b****.  What the #*%& is with you guys and Canada?!?!  Does the sight a maple leaf scare you and make you unable to play hockey?!?!?   The powers that be need to make some big changes and find out why the #^*% we can't be Canada.  It is a good thing for you that I am not in charge of American.  If I were, I'd have you all deported.

Sincerely,

The Warbler  

 Is it possible that they just had the better team?  The answer is yes.

The women blew a two lead with less than 4 minutes to go in the game.  They choked.  

The men couldn't even score one lousy point and, correct me if I am wrong, were higher seeded in the tournament than the Canadians. 

Did our teams really perform to the best of their abilities? The anser is no.

 Warb, you follow hockey enough to know that luck plays a larger part in it than the other major sports.  The women got very unlucky between the deflected goal and the empty netter that hit the post.

Since when does the higher seed based on three games mean you're the better team?  Ever heard of sample size?  Not to mention that a hot goalie can shut out any collection of players in the world for one game.

Warbler said:

 ^See, the man has become like one of us (always a joy to see jester Warb)

Ok Warb, now you have a point.  A 5-0 loss is awful.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Warbler said:

What if Weir decided wanted to do the Ice Skating commentary in a suit of armor or using newspapers as clothing or in the nude?   That wouldn't be weird?

But he didn't anything remotely similar to those things.  He wore clothing that is a bit outside of the norm. 

 I used those extremes to point out that there is such a thing a weird.   So it just a matter of where you draw the line of how far it can go until somthing falls into the weird category.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

(a bronze, oh how horrible)

um, they failed to win that as well.  Even if they had won the bronze it would have been a disappointment considering that they did not play up to expectations. 

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

, and your insistance that Weir a "weirdo", I'm beginning to conclude that you are simply an extremely judgemental person.

ouch.  don't know what else to say.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I'm not a Christian, but the more I age, the more I find that following the "judge not [etc]" rule, just leads to a happier life.

while this is true,  I just can't help that the weirdo detectors go off in my head everytime I see Johnny Weir.  Sorry. 

TV's Frink said:

Ok Warb, now you have a point.  A 5-0 loss is awful.

 yeah, The men's team should be forced on whole the plane ride home to listen to the Canadian and the Finland National Anthems over and over and over again.  And of course should be given those previously described cheap plastic medals with an "L" on them for Loser.