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One thing that incredibly irks me is when fans of the Special Edition tell others to just be happy with the 95 copies and stop complaining. Sadly, I never bought the 1995 editions for two reasons: I was 10 and back then, USA or the Sci-fi channel would play the trilogy every couple months. I also didn't know they would be the last time the originals would be released (again, I was 10). So unlike the rest of you, I have no way of seeing the Originals in any format. I have the SE's, but I really can't stand watching them. I used to love defend, but after going threw an extenstive anti-hollywood/cgi phase in my life thanks to troma movies, my fanboy love of George Lucas sort of died. It's astonishing how detached he is from the rest of the world.

What I wouldn't give to have the originals. Though I never saw them in theatres, they were my childhood.

I guess there was no need for this post but just for me to vent some personal frustration. I'll go back to lurking now.
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You can still get hold of those on ebay mate in VHS form. Otherwise contact Rikter when he returns from his break. He will hook you up with some DVDs.

Talking of seeing the OT for the last time. I was one of 300 or so people to see the OT at Elstree back in 1993 (or was it 94?). There was even a letter read out from Lucas telling us this would be the LAST time any of us would see the Trilogy in it's original form. We were also lucky enough to have a few special guests too. Prowse, Baker et al.

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Ehm just contact Rikter here on the forums mate. (he's on a little break right now)

He can ship almost every Star Wars DVD (bootleg etc) out there, to ANY country in the world.

He rocks ... period

I got mine within the week.
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I was ten back when the '95 VHS tapes came out also, and I remember all of the commercials saying 'One last time,' and I recall thinking, 'No, it's not; they're just saying that.'

Honestly, how many thought that this was nothing more than an advertising ploy to boost sales?
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Originally posted by: Galahad_Skywalker
Honestly, how many thought that this was nothing more than an advertising ploy to boost sales?


I thought it was marketing as well. However, I was a Star Wars junkie and I had just discovered the wonder that was widescreen VHS so I bought the 95 Faces trilogy box set so I could have a widescreen copy (my 1990 trilogy box is pan and scan). I'm thankful I forked over the US$50.
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How many people are still looking for dvds of the original trilogy. I've got a great set that I remastered myself. And yes I am a professional so the highest quality went into them.

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Send a copy to RowMan or Rikter, and with their approval you'd have the love of the board. Two sets are circulating now, the TR47 which has 5.1 sound and the anamorphic which is 2.0 with widescreen picture. There is talk of doing a dual layer disc to have both, but at present it is expensive and has had mixed results according to Rik. Let us know what you got though. And welcome.
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Hi and welcome Brias

Could you give us a bit of info on your set - like is it anamorphic or letterbox, the sound type, which laserdiscs did you source them off etc?

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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
Send a copy to RowMan or Rikter, and with their approval you'd have the love of the board. Two sets are circulating now, the TR47 which has 5.1 sound and the anamorphic which is 2.0 with widescreen picture. There is talk of doing a dual layer disc to have both, but at present it is expensive and has had mixed results according to Rik. Let us know what you got though. And welcome.


Not quite, sorry.
The TR47 set has 2.0 PCM stereo uncompressed audio, and is indeed widescreen.
The anamorphic set is in anamorphic widescreen, formatted for widescreen TVs.

Sorry, just needed to correct.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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I bought the 1995 tapes, and I didn't have a VCR at the time. I kept them in the closet for almost two years before I finally bought one. Right now, they're sitting on a shelf next to the TV. I don't remember the last time I watched them, and I guess I haven't watched them because I'm a little scared the VCR will eat them one day.
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i dont think the vcr will unless its disfuctional
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Originally posted by: Darth Sheba
I bought the 1995 tapes, and I didn't have a VCR at the time. I kept them in the closet for almost two years before I finally bought one. Right now, they're sitting on a shelf next to the TV. I don't remember the last time I watched them, and I guess I haven't watched them because I'm a little scared the VCR will eat them one day.


My suggestion by bootlegs. They won't be up to the new DVDs but will be much better then the VHS.
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Didn't know that Hal, thanks. I heard the sound is much better on the TR47, so I assumed. I do have the anamorphic and certainly like that picture over what I have seen of the TR47, again it would be so nice to have a hybrid.
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Originally posted by: Darth Sheba
I bought the 1995 tapes, and I didn't have a VCR at the time. I kept them in the closet for almost two years before I finally bought one. Right now, they're sitting on a shelf next to the TV. I don't remember the last time I watched them, and I guess I haven't watched them because I'm a little scared the VCR will eat them one day.


- Pretty similar story for me. I have three different VHS releases of the Star Wars Trilogy. The first being CBS/Fox release from around 1989/90 (with the original movie poster artwork - really cool!), then I bought the 95 Widescreen Limited Edition - the one which stated "The Original Star Wars available for the last time". The final VHS release I bought was the not so special "Special Edition Gold Box", with the rather bogus pan&scan picture (they didn´t have the Silver one over here in Iceland).

I hardly played the 95 tapes at all out of fear of the VRC making a mess of them so I kept them stashed away safely and even more so when the Special Editions came out in 1997 and Lucas muttered those were his definitive vision! Then when the DVD format got going I was positive I could (much later that is) copy them to that medium and I just did that and the results are pretty good, the tapes were in really good condition. But I´m not completely satisfied, really want one of those Laserdisc bootlegs doing the rounds now. I want better picture & sound quality like everybody else I guess. But man, imagine the quality of an official Original Trilogy DVD release that Lucas could provide us with if he weren´t such a "politically correct" children´s clown, caught up in all the silly prequel mumbo jumbo and special effects fiasco (he seems to have forgotten what it´s all about hasn´t he!?). I sure hope one day he´ll come to his senses and give us what we want (or someone will smack it into him!), he can´t just ignore this, cause this ball is rollin‘ and is only gonna get bigger and bigger...

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The funniest thing...people complain about not having the originals on DVD...yet you can find the originals for like 10 bucks at any used cd/movie/game store you go to! I could have like 10 copies right now if i wanted...

I was just at HalfPriceBooks and saw the ORIGINAL original VHS copies for 2 bucks a piece!! In better condition than most SE's I've seen too...

Speaking of which...you know I could go get those and ship them to you.
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Those tend to be full screen. Widescreens go for quite a bit more.

I have the THX fullscreens but they suck big time since I can't see even half the image.

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Pan and scan is about 4/7 of the image, so yeah half is about right. XD

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Fullscreen is 67% of the image. More then half but still better to go wide.
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you guys think they'll ever do away with pan and scan?
or think it will always have a market?
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Fullscreen is 67% of the image. More then half but still better to go wide.

Often there's even less image than that in pan-and-scan. It depends on what the original aspect ratio of the movie is.

If a movie's original aspect ratio is 1.85:1, you lose about 28% of the image in the pan-and-scan version. If the original aspect ratio is 2.35:1 (like in Star Wars) you lose about 43% of the image in the pan-and-scan. And in the rare cases when the original aspect ratio is actually wider than that, you lose even more. In 2.55:1 you lose about 48% in P&S, in 2.66:1 you lose exactly half the picture in P&S and in 2.76:1 you lose about 52% of the image.

You lose the least in 1.78:1 or 1.85:1, but a lot of times 1.78:1 movies are matted, so you actually get more in P&S (although the matted version is still the way the filmmakers intended it to be seen).

But you're right, it's definitely better to go widescreen.

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you guys think they'll ever do away with pan and scan?
or think it will always have a market?

I don't know, but if it does fade out it won't be for a while, because there are still lots of dumb, uneducated people who think that a full TV screen means a full image and refuse to accept the change. Or they just don't care about how the filmmakers intended the movies to be seen and just want a full screen rather than having "annoying black bars" or whatever.

But one thing's for sure, widescreen's not going to go away now that it's popular. In fact, in a lot of cases it's even more popular than the pan-and-scan version. Widescreen copies of movies usually sell way more than pan-and-scan copies. Just look at the DVD boxset. The widescreen version is number one on amazon.com's sales ranking and the P&S version is number fifty-two.
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Interesting. I never knew the THX versions came in widescreen. Of course, those were the dark ages of widescreen video, when most people (it's a lot better now with the advent of DVDs) hated "those black bars that cut off the top and bottom of the screen."
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Originally posted by: Spyder X<br Widescreen copies of movies usually sell way more than pan-and-scan copies. Just look at the DVD boxset. The widescreen version is number one on amazon.com's sales ranking and the P&S version is number fifty-two.


That I like. Horay a victory for commen sense.
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Unfortunately while the pan and scan THX versions go for about 5 bucks or so, it's hard to find widescreen versions under $50.

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Well, that's also because the widescreen VHS from 1995 were in such low production. Very few people then realized what the difference was. Plus, as I recall, the widescreen were pulled off the shelves nearly a year before the pan and scan were. I got my copy at a Media Play in Rockford, IL. And the friend that picked them up for me (I didn't own a car at the time and he lived in that area) told me the clerk there said they were to pull the copies off the shelves a couple days later so I got mine just in time. The P&S copies kept selling for a year afterwards. The copy I got was like one of only three or four they had in stock while the P&S was all over the place. Also, you had to go to specialty video stores to get the widescreen. The P&S could be purchased everywhere. Almost literally. Hence why buying copies of the widescreen 95 VHS is so damned expensive.
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
you guys think they'll ever do away with pan and scan?
or think it will always have a market?


HBO currently crops 2.35:1 films to 16:9 (1.78:1) for their HD broadcasts. Super 35 films have the mattes removed.

Even when widescreen TVs become the standard, there will still be 16:9 P&S for wider aspect ratios. Fortunately it's a rare thing for studios not to release DVDs in their proper aspect ratio, so I imagine the trend of dual P&S/OAR releases will continue into our widescreen future.
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